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Post by edos78 on Nov 18, 2024 19:08:15 GMT
Did someone say they are not sure if Dorking Wanderers has more resources than MUFC. SERIOUSLY ? we might need to define resources before that it's worth considering that whilst Dorking are an incredibly well run, they are a semi-pro side and Marc White does not put in anything like the money people assume. They have done some very clever things with crowd funded investment and long term season tickets, but their assets and turnover aren't huge. Their squad is currently strong - but their ground, season ticket holders, attendances (we get 800+ people more a game), match day revenues and catchment are all smaller than ours they are not a club that we can't compete with |
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Post by dweezil on Nov 18, 2024 19:21:05 GMT
Did someone say they are not sure if Dorking Wanderers has more resources than MUFC. SERIOUSLY ? we might need to define resources before that it's worth considering that whilst Dorking are an incredibly well run, they are a semi-pro side and Marc White does not put in anything like the money people assume. They have done some very clever things with crowd funded investment and long term season tickets, but their assets and turnover aren't huge. Their squad is currently strong - but their ground, season ticket holders, attendances (we get 800+ people more a game), match day revenues and catchment are all smaller than ours they are not a club that we can't compete with Sponsorship is massive at Meadowbank |
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Post by Harry on Nov 18, 2024 19:31:56 GMT
Yes it is although Stones do pretty well too.
Looking at the CV's of Dorking players and the club's they come from I can only wonder that they must have a much bigger playing budget.
Probably the highest in the league but Torquay can't be far behind if at all.
Attendances matter but not if your Boreham Wood. They are on another planet.
Having said that Stones are a big club in the NLS, better resources than most.
It's still no gimme for George to attract top players, far from it.
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Post by dweezil on Nov 18, 2024 19:41:41 GMT
Yes it is although Stones do pretty well too. Looking at the CV's of Dorking players and the club's they come from I can only wonder that they must have a much bigger playing budget. Probably the highest in the league but Torquay can't be far behind if at all. Attendances matter but not if your Boreham Wood. They are on another planet. Having said that Stones are a big club in the NLS, better resources than most. It's still no gimme for George to attract top players, far from it. If that was the case, I'd have Charlie Carter here tomorrow. Best midfielder in the NLS by miles, and probably in top 5 for the league above. Way out for us, but in life you get generally get what you pay for - quality |
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Post by Harry on Nov 18, 2024 19:55:46 GMT
Which is why some people drive Porsches and others Peugeots.
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Post by jdl on Nov 18, 2024 20:45:05 GMT
Did someone say they are not sure if Dorking Wanderers has more resources than MUFC. SERIOUSLY ? we might need to define resources before that it's worth considering that whilst Dorking are an incredibly well run, they are a semi-pro side and Marc White does not put in anything like the money people assume. They have done some very clever things with crowd funded investment and long term season tickets, but their assets and turnover aren't huge. Their squad is currently strong - but their ground, season ticket holders, attendances (we get 800+ people more a game), match day revenues and catchment are all smaller than ours they are not a club that we can't compete with Do you have any sources to back this up? Because it's very different to my understanding of Dorking's finances. Basically, they are a club created, and funded, by Marc White - his 'hobby' club. There are (I understand) other 'investors' involved (mates of White's - current or ex-Wimbledon supporters, who wanted to create their own club). But, whatever the exact details, there is a considerable amount of non-earned money funding the club. Nothing wrong with that, of course (just as there's nothing wrong with Oliver and Terry building our stadium for us), but it matters when you are comparing us with them - basically, they have more spending money than us. We cannot compete with them on finances. Worthing's situation is very similar, except that they were an existing club that a 'super-fan' has taken over and is funding with the intention of taking them into the NL - and further. And, again, we can't compete with their spending and remain sustainable. |
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Post by Benny on Nov 18, 2024 20:54:54 GMT
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Post by dweezil on Nov 18, 2024 22:03:09 GMT
Seems the Dorking boys are working with a sponsor tonight in Times Square, New York, selling Dorking to the American audience Wonder if Oliver can do the same in France and persuade a few to jump on a Eurostar and experience a day at le G |
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Post by Terry on Nov 18, 2024 22:28:02 GMT
However Marc White juggles Dorking Wanderers finances, what is very clear is that his playing budget is probably double that which George has to manage.
If he was a half decent or even half qualified coach, they would run away with NLS.
They still may. Money talks and so does MW.
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Post by edos78 on Nov 19, 2024 7:47:57 GMT
However Marc White juggles Dorking Wanderers finances, what is very clear is that his playing budget is probably double that which George has to manage. If he was a half decent or even half qualified coach, they would run away with NLS. They still may. Money talks and so does MW. I'd be surprised if the budget difference was that much - they are still not full time players. Whatever people think of White though, you have to admire the way he has developed that club - of course he has invested but he's also done a great job to grow them commercially. They certainly aren't financially doped like an Ebbsfleet. And Dorking still aren't a club we can't compete with, they just currently seem to have more ambition. |
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Post by jackster on Nov 19, 2024 9:07:09 GMT
Substitute 'more ambition' to 'more money'.
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Post by Dickie on Nov 19, 2024 9:13:03 GMT
It is the way of the football World.
In Dorking's case they have an owner/manager that has sunk £millions into his pet project and hobby.
Take the sugar daddy out of the equation and it collapses like a pack of cards.
He regularly makes up the playing budget deficit and so far that has worked well enough.
Doesn't worry about breaking even or subsidising revenue losses.
If that equates to ambition, sobeit.
Having said that Marc White has done wonders for the club and their latest fund raising efforts are geared towards stadium improvements and self sufficiency.
Still a long way to go.
Nobody should question his commitment or ego though.
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Post by edos78 on Nov 19, 2024 9:48:42 GMT
Substitute 'more ambition' to 'more money'. To be fair, Dorking actively generate money because they have ambition White has been incredibly smart in raising the profile of the club and using it to create income from investors, sponsors and supporters , which he then invests to make them stronger It’s isn’t as simple as him just throwing his own money at it |
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Post by jdl on Nov 19, 2024 9:53:46 GMT
It is the way of the football World. In Dorking's case they have an owner/manager that has sunk £millions into his pet project and hobby. Take the sugar daddy out of the equation and it collapses like a pack of cards. He regularly makes up the playing budget deficit and so far that has worked well enough. Doesn't worry about breaking even or subsidising revenue losses. If that equates to ambition, sobeit. Having said that Marc White has done wonders for the club and their latest fund raising efforts are geared towards stadium improvements and self sufficiency. Still a long way to go. Nobody should question his commitment or ego though. Difficult as he is to warm to, White has certainly succeeded. But take him (and his money) out of the equation, and it's over for Dorking. He has virtually created the club from nothing - in an area that isn't particularly football enthusiastic. No doubt fans would attempt to keep the club going as a phoenix club, but it wouldn't be playing at NS level. This is always the problem with hobby clubs and super-fans owning clubs. The theory is, if you pump enough money into a club, it will eventually become established and self-supporting, and then you can step back. But the reality is that this doesn't happen. There are a few examples of this working, but with the overwhelming majority of small clubs lifted up by having money pumped into them, it ends badly. The way our owners have done it is much better - build the infrastructure, and then develop the club organically. All these 'fans' who criticise Oliver and Terry for not putting more money into the squad, really don't understand the history of these things. Those of us who were here in the Thompson days will never forget. |
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Post by Sword65 on Nov 19, 2024 12:34:59 GMT
A tale of 3 chairmen
1. Marc White who says what he means and means what he says. Loaded and loves his club.
2.Jim Parmenter who is loaded,loves his club but has more bullshit than Kier Starmer
3. Danny Hunter, lives on fantasy island,loaded and loves himself.
Three different chairmen with one thing in common,they are all gold medal wankers.
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