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Post by deadly on Nov 2, 2024 19:44:18 GMT
No presumption, George is looking to strengthen the team. FACT ! Also read Oliver Ash's recent message to supporters. He refers to George looking to strengthen the team in certain areas. |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 2, 2024 20:17:11 GMT
No presumption, George is looking to strengthen the team. FACT ! Also read Oliver Ash's recent message to supporters. He refers to George looking to strengthen the team in certain areas. If he isn’t then I lose all faith in him. He has Bentley who he doesn’t really use so can only presume he doesn’t really rate him as a goal scorer, and let’s face it, he is not a goal scorer. He is, however, all effort and a decent link up man. He has HL who is much maligned. Clearly not good enough but gets minutes so George obliviously wanted this type of striker. He has Coults who it also seems, George doesn’t really rate as he doesn’t get much of a chance. Throws him on when desperate. He didn’t get on today despite needing a goal. Says a lot to me. Blair is class and needs a partner. So yes, we can all see what we need. It’s much discussed and I think we all agree! |
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Post by Dan on Nov 2, 2024 20:25:45 GMT
Shame really.
We do so enjoy a verbal fall-out.
Sadly, this is an issue over which we can all agree.
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Post by barnestone on Nov 2, 2024 21:07:50 GMT
Well, we can't make the 5th round every season... No shame today, they played well, and with a bit of luck, and a better ref, it could have been us going through to round two. 1-0 would have been a fair result, they were undeniably better than us. But the difference wasn't that great, and on another day it could have been 1-0 the other way round. Overall their attack was better than ours and the combination of their excellent goalie and their no 5 bossing the defence (and us) made it even less likely than normal that we'd score. But this has shown up, yet again, how weak we are up front. Blair just can't do it all on his own - he desperately needs a decent partner. Until we solve this problem, we are going to struggle to reach the playoffs. Need a striker for sure. Today, we were just beaten by a stronger team. Total agree we need another decent striker. Whilst, there is quality in the Midfield its not the strongest in terms of physique and this is why we seem to struggle when we play those sort of sides. Defence seems strong. With the present squad we wont go down -but at the same day wont reach the play offs either |
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Post by Benny on Nov 2, 2024 21:20:48 GMT
A minority of our fans are the worst and most entitled in non league. View AttachmentCan't get onboard with refunds for those who travelled but I don't think George is the man that will take us to the national league or higher Like honestly,ask yourself - if he left tomorrow would he get a better or worse job than Maidstone? I can't see it being a better one... I don’t want to get into the National League. The last two times were shit. We’re certainly not going higher than that with any manager. Having had that cup run, George will never lack clubs willing to give him a chance. |
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Post by bermudastone on Nov 2, 2024 21:30:10 GMT
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Post by stonematiz on Nov 2, 2024 21:45:23 GMT
Can't get onboard with refunds for those who travelled but I don't think George is the man that will take us to the national league or higher Like honestly,ask yourself - if he left tomorrow would he get a better or worse job than Maidstone? I can't see it being a better one... I don’t want to get into the National League. The last two times were shit. We’re certainly not going higher than that with any manager. Having had that cup run, George will never lack clubs willing to give him a chance. The reality is we are a national league club with national league attendances, we can't stagnate at the NLS or attendances, interest and therefore money will stop. I can accept we will never be an EFL club but just to establish ourselves in the national league should be our aim. |
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Post by jdl on Nov 2, 2024 22:02:42 GMT
This 'don't want to go up' business is nonsense - even if you personally don't want to play in the league above.
The logic of being in any league/division is that you want to do well in it, and possibly win it.
If you don't, why play league football?
Also, the logic of wanting to stay in a league and not get promoted, is that you either deliberately play/recruit below your ability - and the fans won't be happy with that. Or you deliberately throw games - and the League certainly won't be happy with that!
If you're in a league/division and not trying to win it, resign and let a more ambitious club take your place.
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 2, 2024 22:14:13 GMT
Can't get onboard with refunds for those who travelled but I don't think George is the man that will take us to the national league or higher Like honestly,ask yourself - if he left tomorrow would he get a better or worse job than Maidstone? I can't see it being a better one... I don’t want to get into the National League. The last two times were shit. We’re certainly not going higher than that with any manager. Having had that cup run, George will never lack clubs willing to give him a chance. I want to go up. It means we have had a good season and I can handle the harder seasons in the NL. The pay off is playing the bigger sides. Agree on George, I think his stock is quite high at the moment. I have my views on him. |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 2, 2024 22:18:00 GMT
This 'don't want to go up' business is nonsense - even if you personally don't want to play in the league above. The logic of being in any league/division is that you want to do well in it, and possibly win it. If you don't, why play league football? Also, the logic of wanting to stay in a league and not get promoted, is that you either deliberately play/recruit below your ability - and the fans won't be happy with that. Or you deliberately throw games - and the League certainly won't be happy with that! If you're in a league/division and not trying to win it, resign and let a more ambitious club take your place. No one at the club doesn’t want to go up. The players all bust a gut to get there, the management wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t the aim. They wouldn’t hang around and jeopardise their careers otherwise. The tightly regulated budget with very risk averse strategy is the thing that is keeping us where we are, floating between. I can understand it and am fine with it. You see Altrincham posting a loss of £1m for 23-24 and you wonder how you would compete without an investor willing to flush some money away - see also Ebbsfleet |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 2, 2024 22:21:47 GMT
I don’t want to get into the National League. The last two times were shit. We’re certainly not going higher than that with any manager. Having had that cup run, George will never lack clubs willing to give him a chance. The reality is we are a national league club with national league attendances, we can't stagnate at the NLS or attendances, interest and therefore money will stop. I can accept we will never be an EFL club but just to establish ourselves in the national league should be our aim. This is true enough. The period of time is still relatively short. We have had promotion and cups runs to keep the interest going. I guess if we hung around in the NLS and didn’t make the playoffs or have cup runs for a few seasons, people would start to lose interest. As for having a NL attendance, again true but the budget of a club is more of a factor and as much as attendance feeds that, when you see the other clubs in the NL over spending, it would take a very good manager to get there and start there. |
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Post by jdl on Nov 2, 2024 23:46:43 GMT
This 'don't want to go up' business is nonsense - even if you personally don't want to play in the league above. The logic of being in any league/division is that you want to do well in it, and possibly win it. If you don't, why play league football? Also, the logic of wanting to stay in a league and not get promoted, is that you either deliberately play/recruit below your ability - and the fans won't be happy with that. Or you deliberately throw games - and the League certainly won't be happy with that! If you're in a league/division and not trying to win it, resign and let a more ambitious club take your place. No one at the club doesn’t want to go up. The players all bust a gut to get there, the management wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t the aim. They wouldn’t hang around and jeopardise their careers otherwise. The tightly regulated budget with very risk averse strategy is the thing that is keeping us where we are, floating between. I can understand it and am fine with it. You see Altrincham posting a loss of £1m for 23-24 and you wonder how you would compete without an investor willing to flush some money away - see also Ebbsfleet I was thinking more of certain 'fans'. Some of whom post on here. |
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Post by hongkongstone on Nov 3, 2024 2:28:38 GMT
If you support a football team you want them to win every week. If they win every week they will be promoted. Are we saying there are "fans" on here who want to see the Stones lose games (apart from the couple of Northfleet subscribers)
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Post by foreststone on Nov 3, 2024 8:52:14 GMT
I think the issue is more about what a difficult/shit league the NL is that puts folk off promotion, me included. Without strong backers, willing to underwrite losses each season, once there, staying up is really difficult. At least half the teams are ex FL, so already have the infrastructure, as well as (mostly), being based in larger towns and/or established footballing areas. Add in the fact that Kent is not exactly central, while also being an expensive place to live, means recruitment is a challenge too.
The only way to break the mould is new investors and, until then, Maidstone will be a yo-yo club at best.
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Post by Benny on Nov 3, 2024 9:10:48 GMT
The flaw in wanting promotion no matter what level you achieve, is we are never going to be in the Premier League. I want Maidstone United to survive so the next generation have a club to grow up supporting. Ebbsfleet have had a million pounds a year subsidy and still can’t survive. Like it or not, this is our level now, since the NL became a dumping ground for EFL corruption. We can’t even provide a dedicated stand to segregate away fans, or apparently, a decent disabled section. Maybe new ownership with big investment is just around the corner, but until then I’m happy with this level.
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