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Post by nws on Feb 5, 2024 6:44:51 GMT
According to a Yeovil fan, we had sections of our crowd taunting their fans about Lee Collins and Adam Stansfield and that is why it kicked off. If that is true then that is truly pathetic.
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Post by pwoodstone on Feb 5, 2024 7:45:45 GMT
Yeah, shows a level of pre-planning to try and illicit a response. Completely out of order, if true
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Post by jackster on Feb 5, 2024 8:34:42 GMT
and yet neither me or any of my mates heard anything or knew anything about these so called chants until we read about it in social media.
How can that be ?
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Post by barnstone on Feb 5, 2024 8:55:21 GMT
According to a Yeovil fan, we had sections of our crowd taunting their fans about Lee Collins and Adam Stansfield and that is why it kicked off. If that is true then that is truly pathetic. Totally agree with your comment about the taunts, if true, this is just not acceptable. However, using that as there excuse for there behaviour is not the reason why it kicked off. That all started when the second goal went in - There were no issues in the stadium before then, but suddenly realisation kicked in that after 20 minutes they were 2 down and were going to lose. it then went when sour very quickly probably not helped with the amount of drink some of them had consumed beforehand. I felt very uneasy walking along Week Street before the game with their supporters around, something I had not felt before, not even when Barrow and Stevenage were in town. I expect the Yeovil fan, you mention, made no comment about a small group of their supporters whose behaviour after the game was totally out of order, threatening, intimidating and trying to fight anyone both young and old. The other thing to add is that clearly Yeovil supporters have not behaved at other away games hence the statement the club released before the game. - what was their excuse for these then ? |
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Post by Bernie on Feb 5, 2024 8:58:23 GMT
Neither side comes out of Saturday smelling of roses.
Look at our fans winding them up in the highlights. Singing “Star Security is f**king shit” when stewards put their bodies in the way of a well deserved beating. Yeovil fans bringing in smoke bombs and attacking the barrier.
If the expensive new control box is more than a tea room for police on overtime, both clubs now have photos and videos of the troublemakers. If there are no bans imposed, we can assume those in authority do not take spectator safety seriously.
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Post by pwoodstone on Feb 5, 2024 8:59:51 GMT
According to a Yeovil fan, we had sections of our crowd taunting their fans about Lee Collins and Adam Stansfield and that is why it kicked off. If that is true then that is truly pathetic. Totally agree with your comment about the taunts, that is just not acceptable. However, using that as there excuse for there behaviour is not the reason why it kicked off. That all started when the second goal went in - There were no issues in the stadium before then, but suddenly realisation kicked in that after 20 minutes they were 2 down and were going to lose. it then went when sour very quickly probably not helped with the amount of drink some of them had consumed beforehand. I felt very uneasy walking along Week Street before the game with their supporters around, something I had not felt before, not even when Barrow and Stevenage were in town. I expect the Yeovil fan, you mention, made no comment about a small group of their supporters whose behaviour after the game was totally out of order, threatening, intimidating and trying to fight anyone both young and old. One of their fans had to be carted off on a stretcher due to drink, according to someone on X. It's always the blame game. You did this, we did that, no we didn't. None of it justifies any of the other. |
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Post by daveu on Feb 5, 2024 9:05:44 GMT
According to a Yeovil fan, we had sections of our crowd taunting their fans about Lee Collins and Adam Stansfield and that is why it kicked off. If that is true then that is truly pathetic. I don’t believe that for a minute. How would our fans know about players from Yeovil. I’d never heard of either of them until I saw that post. There had already been two smoke bombs thrown into the home fans before anything kicked off. Yeovil came looking for trouble and unfortunately the usual suspects were only too happy to accommodate them. |
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Post by 61666 on Feb 5, 2024 9:08:07 GMT
Drink was a major factor judging by the amount being put away in the pub by the prison before the game.
Using taunts is no excuse for things escalating into violence, but this always seems to happen more readily when booze is involved and you have a gang of like minded mates around you.
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Feb 5, 2024 9:56:21 GMT
Most wouldn't have a clue who these people were.
But something needs to be done because both sets of fans are to close IMO and unless the situation is addressed the local authoritie will stop the Genco being shared by both sets of fans like the Kent cup match.
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Post by jdl on Feb 5, 2024 10:07:29 GMT
Some simple answers:
Don't admit drunk people. Anyone clearly pissed once in gets thrown out.
Search away fans from clubs known to cause trouble.
Don't put home and away fans in the same stand/part of the ground.
Clubs share all video (etc) and ensure that trouble makers are identified, and at least banned, if not prosecuted.
There's probably more that could be done, but these were off the top of my head - and if I can think of them that easily, them I'm sure the clubs and authorities can too
And if anyone is thinking "but they do all that already", fine, but it clearly isn't working.
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Feb 5, 2024 10:20:01 GMT
Agree with most of that especially the improved searching because once someone is in the ground ejecting them becomes really problematic. Some off them lads were proper units so removing them is likely to cause a big problem. You simply can't have two volatile sets of fans 12 feet apart unless it's an all seated area it's a obvious problem that should have been seen because Yeovil have history!
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Post by applesnstones on Feb 5, 2024 10:41:22 GMT
According to a Yeovil fan, we had sections of our crowd taunting their fans about Lee Collins and Adam Stansfield and that is why it kicked off. If that is true then that is truly pathetic. I don’t believe that for a minute. How would our fans know about players from Yeovil. I’d never heard of either of them until I saw that post. There had already been two smoke bombs thrown into the home fans before anything kicked off. Yeovil came looking for trouble and unfortunately the usual suspects were only too happy to accommodate them. The funniest one that I saw, claimed that we had printed a flag about said player, especially for their arrival. Imagine thinking you are such a significant fixture for a team that just beat Championship Opposition, that they would print a flag in your honour. Despite Yeovil fans trying to downplay their disgusting behaviour, they should face fines and bans. We are not the first club where families were targeted. The league, however, seems more focused on ensuring that our upcoming game against Weymouth takes place as scheduled. And has refused to fine Yeovil for the previous incidents. Perhaps that's why the manager thinks it's acceptable to praise the supporters "fight". Attacking families and young children after a game is despicable. Anyone that sprints across a road to do this is a cretin. |
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Post by scooby on Feb 5, 2024 11:59:18 GMT
Shared stands will always encourage bad behaviour.
The club, obviously, don't appear to care or how else could you explain this lack of action. Better stewards, no two sets of fans in one stand, develop the ground to accommodate away fans separated, use the town end (yes I know he said it can't be done but ignore him he ain't always right), perhaps talk to people who could help and lastly not ignore the situation,( again for you know who the club appear to be doing nothing).
And just to piss off you know who, when I went home and away in late 70s early 80s and later a scrap was always welcome. 👌 but never involve kids, mothers or elderly.
This is why this problem needs addressing not ignoring
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Post by pwoodstone on Feb 5, 2024 12:24:43 GMT
Shared stands will always encourage bad behaviour. The club, obviously, don't appear to care or how else could you explain this lack of action. Better stewards, no two sets of fans in one stand, develop the ground to accommodate away fans separated, use the town end (yes I know he said it can't be done but ignore him he ain't always right), perhaps talk to people who could help and lastly not ignore the situation,( again for you know who the club appear to be doing nothing). And just to piss off you know who, when I went home and away in late 70s early 80s and later a scrap was always welcome. 👌 but never involve kids, mothers or elderly. This is why this problem needs addressing not ignoring It’s all very well saying the club don’t care but in reality this is only an issue a few times a season. They have other things to plan and this is all just time and money wasted that shouldn’t have to be spent. Ultimately though I am sure they’ll now realise it needs to be moved up the agenda, money will need to be diverted from other projects. |
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Post by andyh on Feb 5, 2024 12:31:48 GMT
Sorry, I dont get this bit about not having two sets of fans in the sane stand and the segregation is too small. I cant remember which clubs it was but I have seen seg lines the same size in a premier league stadium and a few below that. I havn't seen or heard of any trouble at those grounds. Why are people hell bent on going to a game of football to cause trouble. Does it happen in Rugby and cricket and they dont have segregation and they are drinking.
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