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Post by Bernie on Nov 23, 2022 21:43:46 GMT
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Post by jdl on Nov 23, 2022 22:23:56 GMT
I love old maps! Odd how close the new and old grounds are - walk between the two and it seems a lot longer!
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Post by sword65 on Nov 24, 2022 14:46:12 GMT
I love old maps! Odd how close the new and old grounds are - walk between the two and it seems a lot longer! I was told when the ground was built the extreme edges of both grounds measured 184 metres apart as the crow flies according to Google maps. |
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Post by jdl on Nov 24, 2022 20:10:36 GMT
I love old maps! Odd how close the new and old grounds are - walk between the two and it seems a lot longer! I was told when the ground was built the extreme edges of both grounds measured 184 metres apart as the crow flies according to Google maps. Close, but not quite that close! Just under 400m according to Google maps distance measuring thingy. You can't see the old ground from the new one because of the trees - and MGGS is probably in the way, anyway. But I wonder if you could have seen the new ground from the top of the bowls club end terracing at LR? That terracing was pretty high, and it's basically just the river valley inbetween. I reckon you would at least have been able to see where the car park is now. Unfortunately, we'll never know. And my memory of that terracing (I was a Scotsman's Stand regular, so rarely went over there) is only of watching the bowls (better than the footbal on some days!) - I never thought to look up and over the valley. |
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Post by sword65 on Nov 24, 2022 21:00:17 GMT
I was told when the ground was built the extreme edges of both grounds measured 184 metres apart as the crow flies according to Google maps. Close, but not quite that close! Just under 400m according to Google maps distance measuring thingy. You can't see the old ground from the new one because of the trees - and MGGS is probably in the way, anyway. But I wonder if you could have seen the new ground from the top of the bowls club end terracing at LR? That terracing was pretty high, and it's basically just the river valley inbetween. I reckon you would at least have been able to see where the car park is now. Unfortunately, we'll never know. And my memory of that terracing (I was a Scotsman's Stand regular, so rarely went over there) is only of watching the bowls (better than the footbal on some days!) - I never thought to look up and over the valley. Still took to bloody long to move less than quarter of a mile |
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Post by jdl on Nov 25, 2022 23:06:35 GMT
Close, but not quite that close! Just under 400m according to Google maps distance measuring thingy. You can't see the old ground from the new one because of the trees - and MGGS is probably in the way, anyway. But I wonder if you could have seen the new ground from the top of the bowls club end terracing at LR? That terracing was pretty high, and it's basically just the river valley inbetween. I reckon you would at least have been able to see where the car park is now. Unfortunately, we'll never know. And my memory of that terracing (I was a Scotsman's Stand regular, so rarely went over there) is only of watching the bowls (better than the footbal on some days!) - I never thought to look up and over the valley. Still took to bloody long to move less than quarter of a mile Just over a kilometre if you walk from one ground to the other - more than twice as far as the proverbial crow flies. If we still owned both sites, we could have put a zip wire from one to the other! |
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Post by daveu on Nov 29, 2022 16:16:12 GMT
Still took to bloody long to move less than quarter of a mile Just over a kilometre if you walk from one ground to the other - more than twice as far as the proverbial crow flies. If we still owned both sites, we could have put a zip wire from one to the other! It would have had to have been bloody tight. The amount of sag over that distance would have you on the ground before you'd gone half way. |
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Post by Bernie on Nov 29, 2022 18:24:16 GMT
Cable car. The ultimate park and ride.  |
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Post by jdl on Nov 30, 2022 2:28:46 GMT
Just over a kilometre if you walk from one ground to the other - more than twice as far as the proverbial crow flies. If we still owned both sites, we could have put a zip wire from one to the other! It would have had to have been bloody tight. The amount of sag over that distance would have you on the ground before you'd gone half way. I'm lighter than some! Although not by much... |
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Post by jdl on Nov 30, 2022 2:30:18 GMT
More like the ultimate no park and no ride! (O2 car parking is a nightmare (as is the A102) - and the cable car is not exactly selling out...) |
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Post by Bernie on Dec 3, 2022 19:58:48 GMT
This one from the mid 1800s is amazingly different. The slider locates what was has gone. maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.3&lat=51.27558&lon=0.51824&layers=117746211&b=1Walk from one side of town north to south: Flower Pot. British Queen. Duke of Cambridge. Grasshopper Inn. New Inn. Compasses Inn. Windsor Castle. Nag’s Head Inn. Roebuck Inn. Fountain Inn. Castle Inn. Bull Inn. George Inn. Ship Inn. Monk’s Head Inn. While Lion Inn. Oak & Ivy Inn. Plough Inn. Fortune of War. Starting from the top of King Street walking west through town: Royal Oak Inn. Dog and Bear Inn. Three Tuns. Mitre Hotel. Haunch of Venison Inn. Star Hotel. Marquis of Granby. Sun Inn. Queens Head Inn. Rose and Crown Inn. Admiral Rodney. King’s Head Inn. White Hart. Prince of Wales Inn. Railway Hotel. Bower Inn. A Victorian time traveller walking down Union Street would recognise the Duke of Marlborough and Rifle Volunteers, but would wonder why the Union Flag Inn was now called the Style and Winch. The only street in Maidstone to have not lost any pubs? |
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Post by jdl on Dec 5, 2022 6:56:39 GMT
This one from the mid 1800s is amazingly different. The slider locates what was has gone. maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.3&lat=51.27558&lon=0.51824&layers=117746211&b=1Walk from one side of town north to south: Flower Pot. British Queen. Duke of Cambridge. Grasshopper Inn. New Inn. Compasses Inn. Windsor Castle. Nag’s Head Inn. Roebuck Inn. Fountain Inn. Castle Inn. Bull Inn. George Inn. Ship Inn. Monk’s Head Inn. While Lion Inn. Oak & Ivy Inn. Plough Inn. Fortune of War. Starting from the top of King Street walking west through town: Royal Oak Inn. Dog and Bear Inn. Three Tuns. Mitre Hotel. Haunch of Venison Inn. Star Hotel. Marquis of Granby. Sun Inn. Queens Head Inn. Rose and Crown Inn. Admiral Rodney. King’s Head Inn. White Hart. Prince of Wales Inn. Railway Hotel. Bower Inn. A Victorian time traveller walking down Union Street would recognise the Duke of Marlborough and Rifle Volunteers, but would wonder why the Union Flag Inn was now called the Style and Winch. The only street in Maidstone to have not lost any pubs? There's a building between the old Union Flag and the Rifle (on the right, walking away from town, on the corner of a small side 'street') that I've always thought might have been a pub (used to be an Indian takeaway). But I've never found any evidence for this. The trouble is that buildings that look like they might have been pubs occasionally turn out to have been something different. There's a corner building near us, near the launderette on the way to St Luke's church,that I was convinced had been a pub. It has a corner door, with a large square panel above, that looks so much like a typical Victorian town pub. But it turns out to have been a post office... |
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Post by Bernie on Dec 5, 2022 20:43:40 GMT
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Post by jdl on Dec 6, 2022 1:43:30 GMT
Well, there's your answer - there was just one other pub in Union Street, the Hope and Anchor, 24 Union Street (now one half of the Home Media Shop). But, sadly, it turns out that the Rifle Volunteer is not in Union Street! It's officialy the last property in Wyatt Street, just round the corner. So, that's still only three pubs in Union Street. Which must be something of a record for a town street of that length. Although I suppose you could include the Queen Anne/Coach House, as, although it's address is 11 Queen Anne Road (how? - where are no.s 1-10?!), it's effectively on an island at the end of Union Street - and actually surrounded by roads called 'Union Street'! Incidentally, talking of the Hope and Anchor, just about my favourite pub was once the Anchor and Hope in Bower Lane (Fant). Just about the quirkiest pub in Maidstone, and now sadly knocked down. It was notoriously difficlut to find, as it was only tiny, set back from the road and not easily visible if you walked down Bower Lane and turned into Florence Road. I once went on a mini pub-crawl in Fant to show a friend round the area (Fant Arms, First and Last, the Coopers Cask, ending at the Anchor and Hope - sadly now impossible, as only the F&L is left). But, by the time we left the Coopers, it was dark and drink had been taken - and I couldn't actually remember where the A&H was! We went left instead of right and, instead of ending the evening by showing my friend my favourite pub, we ended up on a fruitless wander down Lower Fant! |
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Post by Bernie on Dec 6, 2022 6:15:14 GMT
It’s quite sad when you consider a whole culture and way of life for many disappeared in such a short time. www.dover-kent.com/2014-villages/Rochester.htmlWhere I used to live there were a dozen pubs within walking distance, all with sport and games leagues, nearly all gone now. |
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