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Post by 61666 on Nov 3, 2022 8:43:06 GMT
Football and mental health: Defying the game's 'hypermasculine' culture of silence - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63476095 Interesting article about the approach, or lack of it, to mental health of footballers. Have always thought that the mental side of sport is just as important as the physical. Raw talent can only go so far and likewise physical fitness (look at how Best and Gascoigne struggled to cope), so what goes on between the ears is just as vital. Everything from pre match nerves (not unknown for a player to be physically sick before a game) to the much talked about general confidence that has been lacking for Maidstone recently. It is where the skill of the backroom and coaching staff can be so important, so can only hope our guys are being well looked after. A kick up the arse is only one approach and not necessarily the right one either.
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Post by yorkshirestone on Nov 3, 2022 11:29:48 GMT
Some managers have held the importance of psychological resilience as being a key factor underpinning success for ages, whether it be the likes of Glen Hoddle with Eileen Drury - supposedly a faith healer - who he brought in after dropping Gascoigne. The much more pragmatic Bielsa took a middling championship side, instilled belief in them to go from finishing 13th in the Championship, to 3rd the next season, champions the next and then 9th in the PL with basically the same squad. When it all fell apart last season and Leeds looked like they were going down, there was a clique of influential players who didn't buy into Bielsa's work ethic and split the changing room.
There have been many good players who have turned out for Leeds who just couldn't do it in a Leeds shirt but went on to do well at their next club. A player has to be mentally resilient enough to believe in themselves to deliver on the pitch what is expected from the dugout and the terraces.
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Post by sword65 on Nov 3, 2022 13:25:42 GMT
Football and mental health: Defying the game's 'hypermasculine' culture of silence - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63476095 Interesting article about the approach, or lack of it, to mental health of footballers. Have always thought that the mental side of sport is just as important as the physical. Raw talent can only go so far and likewise physical fitness (look at how Best and Gascoigne struggled to cope), so what goes on between the ears is just as vital. Everything from pre match nerves (not unknown for a player to be physically sick before a game) to the much talked about general confidence that has been lacking for Maidstone recently. It is where the skill of the backroom and coaching staff can be so important, so can only hope our guys are being well looked after. A kick up the arse is only one approach and not necessarily the right one either. A kick up the arse should only be done once the player has finished talking out of it.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Nov 3, 2022 14:01:46 GMT
Like most things in life its all about balance.
Yes, we do have to take mental health issues in football, as in life generally, very seriously as sadly in this world so many people now suffer from them, including footballers.
However, in the same way, an OTT obsession with mental health issues threatens to over mollycoddle and use psychobabble on people with poor attitudes who do not have a mental health issue at all but are just spoilt personalities with no respect or passion or commitment for their employers colleagues or paying customers.....or in Football terms for their club, Manager, team mates and supporters.
Tough one!
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Post by sword65 on Nov 3, 2022 14:26:59 GMT
As someone who suffers from deep spells of depression I can say that it's not nice and wouldn't wish it upon anyone,I also know that therapy is generally a waste of time and effort for all concerned. By the time my sessions with the psychiatrist were over they were more worried about her sanity than mine. The last sessions I had last year was with a self obsessed Spaniard,I know more about him than he discovered about me so personally I think therapy is more miss than hit.If Premier league nancy boys are feeling the strain then they should seek help themselves and pay for it themselves . Why should the club cough up more money on them when they have £zillions in the bank.
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Post by scooby on Nov 3, 2022 17:57:03 GMT
I studied sports psychology together with science at uni in Nottingham and worked with Notts county. It's definitely a need in todays game/life and in general men need to talk more about issues. It's not always about the ££££ but, having never been with the bigger teams, it's always good to have someone to talk to with no judgement. With fhe current run we are on It's easy to slide down the greasy pole than climb but if someone can help clean the pole for your climb back up. I can feel ya pain sword and would help if I could, and yes I could help, but unless you visit northumberland......
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Post by jdl on Nov 4, 2022 0:40:37 GMT
Undoutably, psychology plays a huge part in football (as in most things). Just look at us this season, compared to last. It's not just that we are missing the skills, etc of some key players, but we are missing what they contributed to the team in terms of optimism, character, zest and belief as well. Last season's team was a classic 'more than a sum of its parts' situation. We didn't always play that well, but the team's belief in their ability to regan the lead or score a late winner was palpable. We kept going, not because we were good enough to win, but because we believed we were good enough to win. That belief has gone this season.
Or it had done until Tuesday night. And the return of JBW illustrates exactly what I mean. He slotted back in as if he'd never been away, and seems more than capable of doing as well at this level as at NS. But it wasn't just the fact that he was still as good as we hoped that had the real impact, it was that one of last season's heros and most loved players was back. There he was again, beaming and doing the fancy footwork - obviously so happy to be back. And the crowd was so glad to have him back as well, you could feel the change in atmosphere. When he went off and was applauded all the way to the changing rooms, the SM fans must have been wondering what all the fuss was about!
Of course, one JBW doesn't make a summer, but it goes a long way. Imagine if Luque came back too...
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Post by Sennockian69 on Nov 4, 2022 14:45:27 GMT
We need Steve Head.
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Post by nws on Nov 4, 2022 20:23:51 GMT
I studied sports psychology together with science at uni in Nottingham and worked with Notts county. It's definitely a need in todays game/life and in general men need to talk more about issues. It's not always about the ££££ but, having never been with the bigger teams, it's always good to have someone to talk to with no judgement. With fhe current run we are on It's easy to slide down the greasy pole than climb but if someone can help clean the pole for your climb back up. I can feel ya pain sword and would help if I could, and yes I could help, but unless you visit northumberland...... Sword loves Northumberland
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Post by Harry on Nov 4, 2022 22:05:48 GMT
I hear its rather like the Isle of Sheppey, but not so classy.
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Post by Dan on Nov 5, 2022 9:07:14 GMT
Possible true Harry. Although Northumberland has some glorious coastline, it has nothing to compare with Sheerness and Leysdown.
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