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Post by toonarmy on Aug 7, 2019 7:51:32 GMT
Well I attended my 1st game of the season last night and after reading the match report from Saturday and various comments I was worried, I believe we have the core of a decent team and will get better as the season goes along, it would have been some sort of miracle if JS had unearthed a starting 11 that were going to click straight away, Khan played well in the 1st half but disappeared in the 2nd half, still to make my mind up on Cornes who seemed bereft of any ideas when he got the ball and seemed panicked, now where to start with Pennell not since the halcyon days of Ian Draycott have I taken an instant dislike to a player but he was appalling and I am struggling to understand why he wasn't taken off as soon as possible, thankfully he injured his arm lets hope its a long term injury and he can disappear, last bit on last night I though the 3 subs who came on did very well and should be starting especially Wishart, roll on Saturday and a visit to Hungerford.....COYS
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Post by stevecragg on Aug 7, 2019 8:10:26 GMT
I’m sorry but Corne is not at this level, We have the basis of a half decent side let the management tweak along the way and we will be good for midtable or late play off push
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Post by daveu on Aug 7, 2019 8:14:33 GMT
I'm saying nowt , cause a stuff animal name contributor and his sidekick from Allington will wake up and start chewing my post to find something to insult me with. I thought that we played tonight of did we not turn up again ?. Oh well there may be a coach running on Saturday to take the old faithful to Hungerford , they played tonight and held on to a win so we have nothing to fear from them then and after all they are a little sleepy village team compare to us the Mighty Stones !!. Goodnight all ! ... I am stuck in the bloody Channel Tunnel !!. How was telling you to be patient an insult?
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Post by holysmokes66 on Aug 7, 2019 8:33:41 GMT
Thought we were the much better side and the quick free quick completely robbed us. Nice to see us moving the ball around and trying things, rather than the hoof ball we played for most of last season.
Really don't get the criticism of Corne - wanted the ball constantly and moved it around effectively. Sure, he looks a little shaky at points but certainly think he'll find his feet the more he plays.
Edwards is honestly shocking. My first time seeing him play and he can't run, isn't physical and doesn't look fit in any way shape or form, so he must have one hell of a finish on him because he's got very little else. He stood out as one of the worst performers last night.
Going forward we look so light. That's a real worry. JS and Hakan have surely got to be sweating over that striker role because I really can't see where the goals are going to be coming from. Hopefully Embery is the answer. Anyone got Jay May and Frannie's numbers??
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Post by pigbag on Aug 7, 2019 9:21:39 GMT
The only person to sing Edwards praises has been JS2 after Edwards kicked the ball in the air and good work from Justin resulted in a goal. Edwards record for goals is poor and I agree with others who say he has no physical presence, cannot win headers, takes too long to control a ball, is slow, and cannot shoot. Why on earth are we playing him at centre forward or at all? He is not a lone cf so if he does play he needs a partner. The same applies to McClure. He does not tackle or win headers or put defences under pressure but he had one good game as a number 10. Embury is a striker but again cannot play as a lone cf. Akanbi looks the best option from our current squad but either his shirt and pants are too small or he needs to be fitter but at least he will upset defences and have a shot. We do not have a player who can win balls in the air or hold up play so the formation needs to change.
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Post by pwoodstone on Aug 7, 2019 9:24:27 GMT
Edwards has played 2 games with a knock. Let’s see what he can do when he is fully fit again. I don’t think he is as bad as people are suggesting.
Corne is playing pretty deep. I’d like Khan to sit back and allow Corne to supply our forward players.
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Post by pigbag on Aug 7, 2019 9:31:12 GMT
Why are we playing Edwards if he is not fit? What ever his problem is it does not stop him running or jumping. We have other platers who can play in that position Amaluzor and Akanbi for a start.
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Post by hammerstone on Aug 7, 2019 10:15:44 GMT
Sadly two games in, the things we saw in PSFs is still apparent in we lack a decent midfield but more worryingly seem to have forgotten how to put the ball in the net.
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Post by porkystone on Aug 7, 2019 10:17:37 GMT
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Post by jdl on Aug 7, 2019 10:35:52 GMT
I predicted almost every word of that, in fact, if he's busy, I could write his post-match reports for him - without even seeing the games. We need Oliver to write the reports. We may not like what we read, but at least we'd believe them.
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Post by pedant on Aug 7, 2019 10:42:22 GMT
Didn't go to the game, however, by the sounds of it, the game was fairly even, and currently the main weakness appears to be the left back position where Pennell is all too easily skinned. As both Weymouth and Welling are relatively well established sides, with the latter probably being a top half of the table team, it would appear that the Stones aren't that far away from having a settled side that should go on to finish in the top ten. Come the end of the season it would not be surprising if the first few games of the season will have been forgotten. I'd certainly 'agree' that neither have been memorable
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Post by edos78 on Aug 7, 2019 10:44:34 GMT
Whilst the result was a disappointment I'm not buying into the narrative that this is just a continuation of last season.The mgmt clearly have a style of play they are aiming for and with a little luck and maturity we could have won the game.
On the positives Cole, Elokobi, Hoyte, Khan (who looks excellent), Allen, Kyei, and Amaluzor are more than capable at this level and will give us a decent foundation. Hopefully Wishart has now done enough to be brought back in from the cold.
I'm hopeful about Corne. His movement is good, he moves the ball quickly and after Saturday's cold start, he hit some decent set pieces last night. He's stepped up a level but I think he has a chance
Not convinced by Edwards (is he a striker?), Pennell (is he a left back?) or Johnson (seems to go walkabout) yet but prepared to wait and see.
Akanbi looks more than useful and I'd start him up top on Saturday.
The faith is still being kept here.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Aug 7, 2019 10:50:19 GMT
Thought we were the much better side and the quick free quick completely robbed us. Nice to see us moving the ball around and trying things, rather than the hoof ball we played for most of last season. Really don't get the criticism of Corne - wanted the ball constantly and moved it around effectively. Sure, he looks a little shaky at points but certainly think he'll find his feet the more he plays. Edwards is honestly shocking. My first time seeing him play and he can't run, isn't physical and doesn't look fit in any way shape or form, so he must have one hell of a finish on him because he's got very little else. He stood out as one of the worst performers last night. Going forward we look so light. That's a real worry. JS and Hakan have surely got to be sweating over that striker role because I really can't see where the goals are going to be coming from. Hopefully Embery is the answer. Anyone got Jay May and Frannie's numbers?? Don't agree with the more negative view of last nights game - we weren't bad, and could and should have got at least a draw and I really thought we had the ball over the line in that particular tussle (needed VAR!), and we lost to one lapse of concentration by a player who has been caught that way before. George and Jake were excellent, Hoyte was better and even Corne was better, if not quite there yet. Pennell was truly awful, and interesting to see Hak mentioned him by name many times as theb cause of our defeat, so hopefully Noah will get his chance now. Johnson and Saidou wobbled at times but weren't bad, Justin battled, Nana could - and should - have battled more, and Edwards was ineffective so I am definitely in the "why play him if he's injured" camp - we need to start with Ibby Akindi, he looked much better. Iffy battled, but gets bundled off the ball too much. The ref was crap, and was Wellings twelfth man, but for me Dan Wishart shone on left midfield - powerful, battling, intelligent, and got past people so I don't care what his past is with us, he's good for this level and we need to play him. Finally good point was the way the players - still on the pitch for a post match post mortem - came over to the Stones faithful and high fived a bunch of us, with George swearing to us they will do better, and then beating his chest saying HE will make sure we are better - great passion, and great recognition of the Stones fans who swamped the whole ground - it seemed there were more of us than them, and it seemed more than 1,015 to me - more like 1500. If we play like that at Hungerford with Akindi for Edwards, Wishart for Iffy, Noah for Pennell, and don't lose concentration and take what chances we get, we can beat them. In George we trust, he will make it so! COYS
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Post by pedant on Aug 7, 2019 11:01:27 GMT
Thought we were the much better side and the quick free quick completely robbed us. Nice to see us moving the ball around and trying things, rather than the hoof ball we played for most of last season. Really don't get the criticism of Corne - wanted the ball constantly and moved it around effectively. Sure, he looks a little shaky at points but certainly think he'll find his feet the more he plays. Edwards is honestly shocking. My first time seeing him play and he can't run, isn't physical and doesn't look fit in any way shape or form, so he must have one hell of a finish on him because he's got very little else. He stood out as one of the worst performers last night. Going forward we look so light. That's a real worry. JS and Hakan have surely got to be sweating over that striker role because I really can't see where the goals are going to be coming from. Hopefully Embery is the answer. Anyone got Jay May and Frannie's numbers?? Don't agree with the more negative view of last nights game - we weren't bad, and could and should have got at least a draw and I really thought we had the ball over the line in that particular tussle (needed VAR!), and we lost to one lapse of concentration by a player who has been caught that way before. George and Jake were excellent, Hoyte was better and even Corne was better, if not quite there yet. Pennell was truly awful, and interesting to see Hak mentioned him by name many times as theb cause of our defeat, so hopefully Noah will get his chance now. Johnson and Saidou wobbled at times but weren't bad, Justin battled, Nana could - and should - have battled more, and Edwards was ineffective so I am definitely in the "why play him if he's injured" camp - we need to start with Ibby Akindi, he looked much better. Iffy battled, but gets bundled off the ball too much. The ref was crap, and was Wellings twelfth man, but for me Dan Wishart shone on left midfield - powerful, battling, intelligent, and got past people so I don't care what his past is with us, he's good for this level and we need to play him. Finally good point was the way the players - still on the pitch for a post match post mortem - came over to the Stones faithful and high fived a bunch of us, with George swearing to us they will do better, and then beating his chest saying HE will make sure we are better - great passion, and great recognition of the Stones fans who swamped the whole ground - it seemed there were more of us than them, and it seemed more than 1,015 to me - more like 1500. If we play like that at Hungerford with Akindi for Edwards, Wishart for Iffy, Noah for Pennell, and don't lose concentration and take what chances we get, we can beat them. In George we trust, he will make it so! COYS Agree Hoyte was better last night than Saturday but, in the first half, he was consistently losing the headers against their No.11 and nearly all the balls kicked from their keeper were targeted at that weakness.
Didn't notice that anywhere near as much in the second half. Perhaps because Welling had discovered our real weakness was on the other side of the pitch?
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Post by daveu on Aug 7, 2019 11:21:12 GMT
Edwards has played 2 games with a knock. Let’s see what he can do when he is fully fit again. I don’t think he is as bad as people are suggesting. Corne is playing pretty deep. I’d like Khan to sit back and allow Corne to supply our forward players. Actually though he looked pretty decent for an hour against Weymouth. Won quite a lot in the air and had that great run down the wing for Justin's goal, all be it from an admittedly poor cross. Given time to build up an understanding other players will start to benefit from his flick ons.
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