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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 9:25:18 GMT
Let's face it, there is nothing new here. The West are happy to supply arms to whoever, when it suits them, either officially, in the case of the Saudi's, or unofficially when American Catholics were happy to fund the IRA. Meanwhile, the communist block do the same and we wonder why parts of the world are in such a mess. At times, I wonder if it simply part of the process of civilization that has to be gone through and grown out of, a bit like Britain the the middle ages. Nowadays, we are (mostly) happy to just be tribal over sport. I also wonder if Gene Rodenbury got it right in Star Trek, with the Prime Directive, where rule was that of non interference with less technologically developed civilisations. As with children, societies shouldn't be given dangerous toys until they prove responsible enough to be allowed them. Sadly we remain too primitive to achieve such ideals. We will continue to argue with each other for who owns what bit of the 6 billion year old rock we call home for a few decades for the forseeable... It's pathetic
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Post by shamstone on Dec 8, 2019 9:27:07 GMT
Don’t think they’ve grown out of it in London with all the postcode gang related killings
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Post by 61666 on Dec 9, 2019 22:01:34 GMT
Bojo doesn't give a toss. Now there's a surprise.
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Post by sword65 on Dec 9, 2019 22:14:23 GMT
Malcolm my deranged parott who is on a months holiday in Norfolk tweeted me today and forecasted a massive majority for the Tories and Bojo will immediately resign as PM.
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Post by nws on Dec 10, 2019 10:00:52 GMT
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Post by 61666 on Dec 10, 2019 10:50:32 GMT
Sadiq Kahn is either a liar, or doesn't know the facts about homelessness. Bojo doesn't know about customs regulations with the island of Ireland, or is a liar. Or probably both. Cove is just a Gunt. Brexit cannot just be done. They can't be trusted, so don't vote for them and whatever you do, don't vote Brexit party.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 11:15:26 GMT
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Post by nws on Dec 10, 2019 17:29:20 GMT
Sadiq Kahn is either a liar, or doesn't know the facts about homelessness. Bojo doesn't know about customs regulations with the island of Ireland, or is a liar. Or probably both. Cove is just a Gunt. Brexit cannot just be done. They can't be trusted, so don't vote for them and whatever you do, don't vote Brexit party. Sadly we are likely to vote a racist into power on Thursday along with a government that holds the electorate in total contempt
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 18:26:28 GMT
Sadiq Kahn is either a liar, or doesn't know the facts about homelessness. Bojo doesn't know about customs regulations with the island of Ireland, or is a liar. Or probably both. Cove is just a Gunt. Brexit cannot just be done. They can't be trusted, so don't vote for them and whatever you do, don't vote Brexit party. Sadly we are likely to vote a racist into power on Thursday along with a government that holds the electorate in total contempt This is my read of it as well. Gutted and barely recognise this country anymore we have surrendered to a populist xenophobic fear of the other as they deflect their failures from themselves. I can't believe we as a country are prepared to go again with this lot. They have doubled the national debt, caused record failure in the NHS inflicted misery and food banks into a social norm. Hidden from responsibility at every step. Our country has declined more under this shower than any other and they are determined to drag us down further, reducing our stature and wealth to help themselves. They are toxic and so will we be as a Country. We will have a prime minister with no original ideas of his own, a confirmed liar, someone who conspired to get someone beaten up a elitist narcissistic yob. Those who vote for him deserve everything they get. How did we allow ourselves to be so duped? Such a morale vacuum in Johnson and Cummings Et Al but it's a massive indictment on the others as well that the Tories aren't looking at years on the fringes for what they have and are doing. Why do we not have already to safeguard our democracy, appropriate standards in place to stop the duplicity and lies of politicians. No where else in industry can you get away with such blatant unadulterated deception.
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Post by 61666 on Dec 11, 2019 8:52:12 GMT
BBC News - 'I won't sleep for over 24 hours on election night' www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50725581 From this article, it appears our best hope is some sort of coalition government. The two main parties are too extreme and we need a moderating force to keep them in check - unless that is the Brexit party of course, in which case the only advice is to stick your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye. However, this is a market trader talking and they are not necessarily the best advisors either. The fact that we will know the result on Friday the thirteenth is increasingly worrying
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Post by nws on Dec 11, 2019 10:18:24 GMT
Page 48 of the Conservative manifesto talks about looking at the relationship between crown, courts and parliament. "We will ensure judicial review is available to protect against an overbearing state while ensuring it is not used to conduct politics by another means or create needless delays"
This should worry everybody because it, essentially, attacks the three sided system where one side can check another that is abusing it's powers. The most recent examples have been where courts have checked this government from forcing it's brexit withdrawal agreement through parliament.
If the power of courts are lessened then we have the seeds of authoritarian government. Given the way this lot are slowly breaking our society down we should all fear this.
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Post by sword65 on Dec 11, 2019 10:58:42 GMT
Page 48 of the Conservative manifesto talks about looking at the relationship between crown, courts and parliament. "We will ensure judicial review is available to protect against an overbearing state while ensuring it is not used to conduct politics by another means or create needless delays" This should worry everybody because it, essentially, attacks the three sided system where one side can check another that is abusing it's powers. The most recent examples have been where courts have checked this government from forcing it's brexit withdrawal agreement through parliament. If the power of courts are lessened then we have the seeds of authoritarian government. Given the way this lot are slowly breaking our society down we should all fear this. Page 48 really nws surely you have something better to do than read that drivel. I couldnt be bothered to read 48 words let alone pages. Put the book down and take the wife and kids out to McDonalds or something . Get a life boy before it's too late.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 12:54:55 GMT
Page 48 of the Conservative manifesto talks about looking at the relationship between crown, courts and parliament. "We will ensure judicial review is available to protect against an overbearing state while ensuring it is not used to conduct politics by another means or create needless delays" This should worry everybody because it, essentially, attacks the three sided system where one side can check another that is abusing it's powers. The most recent examples have been where courts have checked this government from forcing it's brexit withdrawal agreement through parliament. If the power of courts are lessened then we have the seeds of authoritarian government. Given the way this lot are slowly breaking our society down we should all fear this. Page 48 really nws surely you have something better to do than read that drivel. I couldnt be bothered to read 48 words let alone pages. Put the book down and take the wife and kids out to McDonalds or something . Get a life boy before it's too late. And such comments are the problems we have now too many totally blaise attitudes on the serious undermining of democracy and our liberties. It's that kind of dismissive disinterest that has left us sleepwalking into the downward spiral of this nation and Brexit
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Post by sword65 on Dec 11, 2019 13:36:36 GMT
Page 48 really nws surely you have something better to do than read that drivel. I couldnt be bothered to read 48 words let alone pages. Put the book down and take the wife and kids out to McDonalds or something . Get a life boy before it's too late. And such comments are the problems we have now too many totally blaise attitudes on the serious undermining of democracy and our liberties. It's that kind of dismissive disinterest that has left us sleepwalking into the downward spiral of this nation and Brexit It doesnt matter whoever's wins will chew you up and spit you out so what is the point of boring yourself to death with pages upon pages of utter bullshit. And just to make my point totally clear the tory manifesto is undoubtedly full of bullshit the labour manifesto will doubtless be 10 times worse and I wouldn't insult my arse with the Lib dems manifesto. Who ever wins we are screwed up as a nation we had the chance to put things right and we blew it. This country is now destined for the toilet and my vote and your vote will make no f**king difference whatsoever so lighten up and stop taking things so damn seriously.
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Post by nws on Dec 11, 2019 13:55:37 GMT
And such comments are the problems we have now too many totally blaise attitudes on the serious undermining of democracy and our liberties. It's that kind of dismissive disinterest that has left us sleepwalking into the downward spiral of this nation and Brexit It doesnt matter whoever's wins will chew you up and spit you out so what is the point of boring yourself to death with pages upon pages of utter bullshit. And just to make my point totally clear the tory manifesto is undoubtedly full of bullshit the labour manifesto will doubtless be 10 times worse and I wouldn't insult my arse with the Lib dems manifesto. Who ever wins we are screwed up as a nation we had the chance to put things right and we blew it. This country is now destined for the toilet and my vote and your vote will make no f**king difference whatsoever so lighten up and stop taking things so damn seriously. So you won't bother voting then? After all it makes no difference and is all bull.
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