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Post by Dan on Dec 3, 2019 21:00:17 GMT
It's nothing to do with beliefs. Why is that oldboy doesn't get it when his arguments have been absolutely smashed ?
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Post by nws on Dec 3, 2019 23:49:19 GMT
What are babbling on about now? I know about the governments in the countries you go on about. I've been to Turkey and, because it was the year after going to Israel chuckled at the fact they wouldn't stamp my passport on the following page (putting it at the back). Just because I don't agree with Israel blowing up hapless civilians doesn't mean I support lunatic governments, as a result. That is precisely the black/white leap you appear to have made with Corbyn, that I have been exposing. Instead of learning, you just repeat the mistake. Just to inform you, Jews live all over the world not just in Israel. If I didn't like Israel (I like Israel as it goes) because I didn't agree with it's foreign policy wouldn't mean I hate Jews. Jewish is a religion/faith/culture. Israel is a state. Obviously that is rocket science for you! Oh and extra info for you. 51% of Jews live in USA so Israel is not their homeland (it has around 30% of the world's Jews) although I do accept that many see big significance in Israel. I shall look forward to your next shotgun approach... What are YOU babbling about? Something you seem not to understand. Logic and fact. Jews are a race of people. Interesting. So if I choose to convert and become a Jew, I change races? Incidentally, many Jews get upset at being called a race because of the connotations in relation to the wartime persecution. Judaism is ONE of their religions. Their is no such religion as Jewish. What are the other religions?You can have Messianic Jews who are Christians. Being Jewish is not a religion by itself. Israel is their homeland from bible times - read it sometime. Btw The historical Israel of the Bible was considerably larger than the tiny country they have today. Firstly, I don't really believe in the bible and think it is mostly utter nonsense. However, since you reference it, I will also note that it also mentions the Philistines who inhabited the region at the same time as the Israelites. They were forebearers to the Palestinians. I guess that is why they also claim ancient rights to the land. Maybe you read it some time.They were scattered all around the world but are slowly returning since 1948 to their homeland. It’s called Aliyah. The Palestinians were not scattered round the world just turfed out in 1948.Israelis are Jews, of different religions . That must be a great surprise to the 2.3m non-Jewish inhabitants of Israel (source:https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-and-non-jewish-population-of-israel-palestine-1517-present). Are you saying they are stateless? What about the Palestinians? So to hate one is to hate the other. No. Please see point above.Nothing to do with Venezuelans and Spaniards, that’s just mocking and confusing. Maybe/maybe not but I haven't said anything about Venezuelans and SpaniardsHere I now bow out for good from this ignorance as I am sure the next wave of insults will be off the charts and I just don’t want to read any more. I'm sorry that you find observations that you haven't read or watched something or have but didn't understand it as insulting. To me it is statement of fact when you present evidence and use it to say something that is blatant nonsense. It could be worse. I could call your facts ignorance while feeling that my beliefs were correct.
Lastly, Of course you will bow out. I might ask those inconvenient questions such as when has Corbyn the terrorist lover sold arms to states engaging in human rights abuses...(Saudi Arabia anyone?)
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Post by daveu on Dec 4, 2019 0:07:08 GMT
Can you both please stop. You won't change each other's opinions. You both believe absolutely in whatever material each reads and in reality, no one can say whether either's source material is any more reliable than the other's. Let's just accept our differences and put this bloody pointless thread to bed once and for all.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Dec 4, 2019 0:19:20 GMT
Daveu - trying to stop feral rats in a sack from attempting to destroy each other is futile.
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Post by sword65 on Dec 4, 2019 1:33:19 GMT
Daveu - trying to stop feral rats in a sack from attempting to destroy each other is futile. Resistance is futile ,exterminate,exterminate,EXTERMINATE!!!
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Post by sword65 on Dec 4, 2019 1:39:13 GMT
Daveu - trying to stop feral rats in a sack from attempting to destroy each other is futile. Resistance is futile ,exterminate,exterminate,EXTERMINATE!!! Ooooeeeuuuuueeeuuuudooodoodoodoooeeeuudumdeedumdeedummdeeedumdeedummdeedumooooeeeeuuuuueeeeuùudooddoòooeèdum...
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Post by sword65 on Dec 4, 2019 1:43:47 GMT
Resistance is futile ,exterminate,exterminate,EXTERMINATE!!! Ooooeeeuuuuueeeuuuudooodoodoodoooeeeuudumdeedumdeedummdeeedumdeedummdeedumooooeeeeuuuuueeeeuùudooddoòooeèdum... 👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀sorry folks hes had a BIG reefer and he is away with the fairies🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️🧚♀️👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀👨🚀
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Post by yorkshirestone on Dec 4, 2019 10:59:49 GMT
Resistance is futile ,exterminate,exterminate,EXTERMINATE!!! Ooooeeeuuuuueeeuuuudooodoodoodoooeeeuudumdeedumdeedummdeeedumdeedummdeedumooooeeeeuuuuueeeeuùudooddoòooeèdum... Ooooh a trekkie/whovian fusion. I kind of like it
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Post by 61666 on Dec 4, 2019 12:49:57 GMT
Meanwhile, the BBC's Reality Check shows that the Tory pledge of 40 new hospitals actually only amounts to six - and none have as yet had work started. Another issue, is that none of these are new hospitals, being rebuilds of existing ones. So, economy with the he truth. Again. Yet still folk vote for them
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Post by nws on Dec 4, 2019 13:36:12 GMT
Can you both please stop. You won't change each other's opinions. You both believe absolutely in whatever material each reads and in reality, no one can say whether either's source material is any more reliable than the other's. Let's just accept our differences and put this bloody pointless thread to bed once and for all. And there we go. Opinions. You might want to note that I have no clue as to what Corbyn supports in terms of Jews. What I am noting is that baseless accusations of him being a terrorist sympathiser are ramping up and people are rushing into a possibly false opinion. This will lead to five more years of Tories. They will continue to enrich the already rich and many people will vote to make their own lives worse. It's a crass method and, sadly, people are falling for it hook, line and sinker. Personally, I'd rather someone whose biggest crime seems to be a preparedness to talk to terrorists (don't forget how we got to the Belfast agreement) than someone who happily arms despotic regimes!
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Post by daveu on Dec 4, 2019 15:29:49 GMT
The point is that you don't know that it's a false allegation any more than OldBoy knows it's true. You're both basing your arguments on sources that say what you want them to say. Neither of you can prove one way or the other whether your sources are fact or propaganda but you both continue to insist that you are right and the other is wrong. If you want to continue repeating the same boring argument ad infinitum, maybe do it through private messaging rather than continuing to ruin this board for the vast majority who are utterly fed up with the whole pointless topic.
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Post by Nick on Dec 4, 2019 17:38:36 GMT
Fair point daveu except this thread is all about boring political waffle
So carry on nws and oldboy, " Fill yer boots"
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Post by nws on Dec 4, 2019 20:25:38 GMT
The point is that you don't know that it's a false allegation any more than OldBoy knows it's true. You're both basing your arguments on sources that say what you want them to say. Neither of you can prove one way or the other whether your sources are fact or propaganda but you both continue to insist that you are right and the other is wrong. If you want to continue repeating the same boring argument ad infinitum, maybe do it through private messaging rather than continuing to ruin this board for the vast majority who are utterly fed up with the whole pointless topic. It might be worth reading what I ACTUALLY wrote. I said baseless allegation ie it has no base, as has been shown when I ask for proof. I would also contend that the sources which are videos are relatively good proof, as they are the proof of your own eyes and ears. Finally, the idea that you are fed up with the topic is nonsense. My proof is the number of posts you have made on it or do you consider your very own actions to be my opinion?
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Post by nws on Dec 4, 2019 20:26:50 GMT
Fair point daveu except this thread is all about boring political waffle So carry on nws and oldboy, " Fill yer boots" The points are not fair, Nick. He has chatted nonsense and made stuff up. That is because he has changed fact to fit an opinion.
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Post by Rob on Dec 4, 2019 22:18:57 GMT
It's fair enough for daveu to express how fed up he is with your exchanges around election collateral. Bit odd really cause reading between the lines I think he is probably not a million miles away from the stuff you post. Doubt whether he would ever admit to it.
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