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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 27, 2019 10:17:52 GMT
Apart from being unable to put simple passes together, control the ball, keep the ball in the field of play, mount any form of thought out attack, defend without looking panicstricken and play any form of pass from midfield, I thought we looked OK. The only worrying areas were defence midfield and attack. Last week's assertion that this is the worst Maidstone side (for the level it is at) I have seen was confirmed and added to tonight. Utterly and abjectly appalling. Every word on this thread is accurate. My concern is that JS and HH cant even get this bunch passing on the ground, taking on players and beating them, making attacks, shooting at goal, not making defensive errors-the very basics of football. Individually they all have good CV's so why together do they play like they haven't a clue? Once again Stockport were not great, and we looked like a totally overawed Bostik league team - maybe lower. JS and HH may be waiting for seasons end to clear this lot out and start again, but surely with their experience they can get more out of this squad??? Why bother fighting 1-1 at Stockport to completely roll over at JWW in such an embarrassingly bad fashion? Only player who seemed bothered by our dire performance when they came off was SW, who also played like a man overdue retirement. The rest just looked brain dead. I just couldn't name a MOM as they were all absolute pants, some worse than others. What do these guys do all week? they don't do anything else in life for a job but play football, and they cant play football. Its like being a bricklayer who cant lay bricks. Its just beyond belief. If only we could only pay them for winning. With that performance under a management that is supposed to save the club I fear a double relegation. How can an NL squad be the worst Maidstone side ever compared with the lower league squads we have had in the past? We have to go back to semipro voluntarily and get players in who WANT to play football and are grateful for the opportunity, before we are forced to go semipro due to relegation back to Bostik. I'm Black and Amber through and through, but this morning cant face watching another embarrassing home game this season at JWW with this bunch who don't deserve the shirt or their pay cheques. No heroes in this team except maybe Lewington - the loudest player on the pitch last night, much needed, and Turgott. The rest can go. Including Pax. And Cass. We don't want any of you. The club had a crack at Wembley and yet you couldn't be *rsed to do the only job you are paid to do. Lazy, passionless wasters. This puts me in mind of what happened when Wolves hit the "Down" button. We descended from Division One (ie: the top league in those days) to bottom of Division Four in successive seasons. A local hero, I think it was Derek Dougan, was made manager fairly early in this process. Great hope was followed by groaning despair as he lost most of his matches and was followed by non-entity managers in tandem with a speedy revolving door of players, which he had initiated. When we were in Division Four and had spent too much money on a beautiful new stand (just started in Division One) we were poised to swap places with Chorley (non-league mid-tables). If Maidstone reach the Bostic but can't afford to pay any wages, who would we swap with?
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Post by Better things to do in life on Feb 27, 2019 10:19:37 GMT
Every word on this thread is accurate. My concern is that JS and HH cant even get this bunch passing on the ground, taking on players and beating them, making attacks, shooting at goal, not making defensive errors-the very basics of football. Individually they all have good CV's so why together do they play like they haven't a clue? Once again Stockport were not great, and we looked like a totally overawed Bostik league team - maybe lower. JS and HH may be waiting for seasons end to clear this lot out and start again, but surely with their experience they can get more out of this squad??? Why bother fighting 1-1 at Stockport to completely roll over at JWW in such an embarrassingly bad fashion? Only player who seemed bothered by our dire performance when they came off was SW, who also played like a man overdue retirement. The rest just looked brain dead. I just couldn't name a MOM as they were all absolute pants, some worse than others. What do these guys do all week? they don't do anything else in life for a job but play football, and they cant play football. Its like being a bricklayer who cant lay bricks. Its just beyond belief. If only we could only pay them for winning. With that performance under a management that is supposed to save the club I fear a double relegation. How can an NL squad be the worst Maidstone side ever compared with the lower league squads we have had in the past? We have to go back to semipro voluntarily and get players in who WANT to play football and are grateful for the opportunity, before we are forced to go semipro due to relegation back to Bostik. I'm Black and Amber through and through, but this morning cant face watching another embarrassing home game this season at JWW with this bunch who don't deserve the shirt or their pay cheques. No heroes in this team except maybe Lewington - the loudest player on the pitch last night, much needed, and Turgott. The rest can go. Including Pax. And Cass. We don't want any of you. The club had a crack at Wembley and yet you couldn't be *rsed to do the only job you are paid to do. Lazy, passionless wasters. Am I the only one thinking that Hakan needs to be giving a 'better' interview than last night's after a performance like that? Whilst understanding he needs to be 'protecting' the players he also needs to be 'managing' the supporters which he'll lose quickly if he keeps responding like that. I agree. Hakan is either holding back on his real views (which I hope is the case) or he is clueless (which I hope ISNT the case!). No amount of moaning about how many injuries can take away from the fact that as a coach, you should get the best out of what you've got, even if you have to play Academy players - you find a system. Last night we had NL players playing like Sunday League players - even if we had still lost, the team should be playing like people who only play football for their living. If Hakan is actually clueless, and JS out of his depth (as seems to be the case right now), expect a double drop back to Bostik. If they are sitting on some Grand master plan with a whole new squad for NLS, they need to share it to re-assure the fans - especially season ticket holders who are debating whether or not to buy a season ticket for NLS next year. Without hope in JS and HH for next year, sub-1000 crowds may become the norm at JWW, and that could cripple us.
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 27, 2019 10:22:42 GMT
It might be unpopular but I feel it right to put in a word for Jack Paxman, a loyal and always hard-working member of the club who last night seemed on the edge of tears as he trudged off. He applauded the fans standing next to the exit tunnel. In days gone by he has been excellent. He looks a shadow of his previous self, and has done since the turn of the year.I hope he gets a decent team to play for next season because he has talent.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Feb 27, 2019 10:29:55 GMT
It might be unpopular but I feel it right to put in a word for Jack Paxman, a loyal and always hard-working member of the club who last night seemed on the edge of tears as he trudged off. He applauded the fans standing next to the exit tunnel. In days gone by he has been excellent. He looks a shadow of his previous self, and has done since the turn of the year.I hope he gets a decent team to play for next season because he has talent. Trouble is, like Jack Richards, he has had so, so many chances to be a star and has always stayed just promising without consistently delivering. I think he has peaked and is better off at somewhere like East Thurrock being a star player week after week at lower level. Like you, I have always been a Pax fan but sadly I don't think he is part of our future anymore.
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Post by bear5 on Feb 27, 2019 10:39:17 GMT
I like Paxman but he needs someone strong and disciplined next to him, or preferably two of that type. His best spell was with Lewis and Prestedge. Since they declined/ left he's been lost I think.
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Post by pieman1982 on Feb 27, 2019 10:43:16 GMT
It might be unpopular but I feel it right to put in a word for Jack Paxman, a loyal and always hard-working member of the club who last night seemed on the edge of tears as he trudged off. He applauded the fans standing next to the exit tunnel. In days gone by he has been excellent. He looks a shadow of his previous self, and has done since the turn of the year.I hope he gets a decent team to play for next season because he has talent. Trouble is, like Jack Richards, he has had so, so many chances to be a star and has always stayed just promising without consistently delivering. I think he has peaked and is better off at somewhere like East Thurrock being a star player week after week at lower level. Like you, I have always been a Pax fan but sadly I don't think he is part of our future anymore. I would say Paxman has had far more chances than Richards. Pretty sure Richards has scored in most of his starts and has been used as an occasional sub. Paxman has had his longest run in the team this season and look where we are! HH is stuck with the slim chance of staying up, but also stuck with this team. If the team have not already given up, to then publically announce they are all going ASAP will completely end the season. HH knows it, JS knows it as do we that the squad is crap and needs to change, however this will only happen once we are mathematically religated. We walked through the NLS last time with a huge chunk of our Ryman Premier team. The standard is a big step down. The Monday morning after the religation game will hopefully involve no training and just a shed load of one to one chats with players being told to find other clubs. Then the rebuild can start and we can use the rest of the season as a pre season experiment. Until we are down expect what we witnessed last night!
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Post by sdg on Feb 27, 2019 11:22:32 GMT
Trouble is, like Jack Richards, he has had so, so many chances to be a star and has always stayed just promising without consistently delivering. I think he has peaked and is better off at somewhere like East Thurrock being a star player week after week at lower level. Like you, I have always been a Pax fan but sadly I don't think he is part of our future anymore. I would say Paxman has had far more chances than Richards. Pretty sure Richards has scored in most of his starts and has been used as an occasional sub. Paxman has had his longest run in the team this season and look where we are! HH is stuck with the slim chance of staying up, but also stuck with this team. If the team have not already given up, to then publically announce they are all going ASAP will completely end the season. HH knows it, JS knows it as do we that the squad is crap and needs to change, however this will only happen once we are mathematically religated. We walked through the NLS last time with a huge chunk of our Ryman Premier team. The standard is a big step down. The Monday morning after the religation game will hopefully involve no training and just a shed load of one to one chats with players being told to find other clubs. Then the rebuild can start and we can use the rest of the season as a pre season experiment. Until we are down expect what we witnessed last night! I'll also add that once we are down mathematically you watch the performance pick up and players play with no fear. See it all the time as they try to ensure a contract for next season.
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Post by jdl on Feb 27, 2019 11:35:21 GMT
It might be unpopular but I feel it right to put in a word for Jack Paxman, a loyal and always hard-working member of the club who last night seemed on the edge of tears as he trudged off. He applauded the fans standing next to the exit tunnel. In days gone by he has been excellent. He looks a shadow of his previous self, and has done since the turn of the year.I hope he gets a decent team to play for next season because he has talent. One thing that really hit me last night was that the players walked off to a near silent response from those waiting to get past the tunnel. But we applauded the Stockport team - who applauded us. Nice old-school/non-league touch - but our players coming off in near silence - never seen that before. I'm always quoting the Fry season as an example of as bad as it gets, but this is worse. He was crap, but at least he didn't take us down. JS has got a huge job on his hands over the summer and next season. No doubt he can do it (although I'm a lot less confident about HH), but those of us expecting to go straight back up again next season, may have to be a tad more patient. Apart from our own ability, at least one of Ricay, Torquay or Woking will be fighting us all the way.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Feb 27, 2019 11:41:00 GMT
I would say Paxman has had far more chances than Richards. Pretty sure Richards has scored in most of his starts and has been used as an occasional sub. Paxman has had his longest run in the team this season and look where we are! HH is stuck with the slim chance of staying up, but also stuck with this team. If the team have not already given up, to then publically announce they are all going ASAP will completely end the season. HH knows it, JS knows it as do we that the squad is crap and needs to change, however this will only happen once we are mathematically religated. We walked through the NLS last time with a huge chunk of our Ryman Premier team. The standard is a big step down. The Monday morning after the religation game will hopefully involve no training and just a shed load of one to one chats with players being told to find other clubs. Then the rebuild can start and we can use the rest of the season as a pre season experiment. Until we are down expect what we witnessed last night! I'll also add that once we are down mathematically you watch the performance pick up and players play with no fear. See it all the time as they try to ensure a contract for next season. I am sure you are right, but equally sure that JS wont be fooled. I like the Monday morning after confirmed relegation talk idea. No one on the pitch last night apart from Lewington deserves a shirt for next year. A few that didn't play may be worth a new Black and Amber NLS shirt next season, like new Jake, maybe Elliott, maybe George Mac, maybe Jack Richards, maybe Jake R, and of course Blair, WDH and Phillips, who we would want to keep but are unlikely to stay. Cass I'm a bit fed up with now and he wont stay for NLS anyway unless SW stays and the family connection keeps him here. However, is it really working between SW and HH as both being coaches? SW looked a spent force as a player last night and Lewington was far - so are too many coaches spoiling the broth? I think SW will go and manage an oop North NLN team, and probably be very successful at it.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Feb 27, 2019 11:46:25 GMT
It might be unpopular but I feel it right to put in a word for Jack Paxman, a loyal and always hard-working member of the club who last night seemed on the edge of tears as he trudged off. He applauded the fans standing next to the exit tunnel. In days gone by he has been excellent. He looks a shadow of his previous self, and has done since the turn of the year.I hope he gets a decent team to play for next season because he has talent. One thing that really hit me last night was that the players walked off to a near silent response from those waiting to get past the tunnel. But we applauded the Stockport team - who applauded us. Nice old-school/non-league touch - but our players coming off in near silence - never seen that before. I'm always quoting the Fry season as an example of as bad as it gets, but this is worse. He was crap, but at least he didn't take us down. JS has got a huge job on his hands over the summer and next season. No doubt he can do it (although I'm a lot less confident about HH), but those of us expecting to go straight back up again next season, may have to be a tad more patient. Apart from our own ability, at least one of Ricay, Torquay or Woking will be fighting us all the way. I stood by the tunnel and watched our players and Management come off the pitch and wanted to say loads to all of them but found myself speechless in utter disgust, disappointment and betrayal by the lot of them, and there apparent lack of being bothered about it (with a few, BUT ONLY A FEW) exceptions.
I found the silence far more damning, as you so rightly say It was odd - a first. Stones fans are on the floor now. Seeing happy Stockport and knowing they didn't play great, but deserved a 3-0 margin, what else could you do but applaud a proper and decent footballing team? We haven't had one of them for ages.
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Post by jakeyboi on Feb 27, 2019 13:35:45 GMT
Terry Casey has apparently already said that next season we will have 3 times the average budget in the NLS well personally he is over estimating the fans and taking for granted that we will all be rushing to re-new our ST. I will have to see a massive improvement in standards in the squad an indeed the whole attitude of the club before I rush to renew mine.
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Post by overthehillstone on Feb 27, 2019 13:50:06 GMT
Suddenly, being laid up for nearly 3 months after an operation on my foot and not been able to get to a game since 1st December is not that bad at all Likewise snapped an Achilles tendon in November and have been lucky to have missed all this crap.
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 27, 2019 13:56:47 GMT
Terry Casey has apparently already said that next season we will have 3 times the average budget in the NLS well personally he is over estimating the fans and taking for granted that we will all be rushing to re-new our ST. I will have to see a massive improvement in standards in the squad an indeed the whole attitude of the club before I rush to renew mine. It's not just about money.
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Post by sword65 on Feb 27, 2019 14:02:35 GMT
Terry Casey has apparently already said that next season we will have 3 times the average budget in the NLS well personally he is over estimating the fans and taking for granted that we will all be rushing to re-new our ST. I will have to see a massive improvement in standards in the squad an indeed the whole attitude of the club before I rush to renew mine. It's not just about money. Talking of money I would have had £124.64 last night if your namesake hadn't lost to the bottom of the league Its seems you support 2 showers of shit.
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 27, 2019 14:28:42 GMT
It's not just about money. Talking of money I would have had £124.64 last night if your namesake hadn't lost to the bottom of the league Its seems you support 2 showers of shit. 91st minute Sword. It must have been exciting!
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