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Post by Bernie on Nov 30, 2018 3:46:58 GMT
People can post anything they like. But we're also free to reply, it being a forum and all. "Sack Harry, bring back Jay and his failed signings, the owners must leave", etc. We lost a game due to an appalling ref and lino, while losing our best player to injury on a stormy night. It was bad luck. It happens. Get behind the players and manager on Saturday and who knows where it could lead. Looks like it's going to be another wet and windy game against Oldham. Let's use that to our advantage. Most of the first half against Eastleigh was actually pretty good.
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Post by porkystone on Nov 30, 2018 6:51:22 GMT
People can post anything they like. But we're also free to reply, it being a forum and all. . Very true, its good though to keep debate at a civilised & informed level, no ranting or personal abuse is the way to go. At the end of the day, we're on here because we all love MUFC & non league football ( if you don't love MUFC, and have just come here to dish out abuse you've logged on the wrong web address, so f**k off ).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 7:57:39 GMT
People can post anything they like. But we're also free to reply, it being a forum and all. " Sack Harry, bring back Jay and his failed signings, the owners must leave", etc. We lost a game due to an appalling ref and lino, while losing our best player to injury on a stormy night. It was bad luck. It happens. Get behind the players and manager on Saturday and who knows where it could lead. Looks like it's going to be another wet and windy game against Oldham. Let's use that to our advantage. Most of the first half against Eastleigh was actually pretty good. We lost because we were appalling in the second half as has been admitted by the manager. We deserved nothing. If the penalty had been given and scored and if the offside goal had stood then that's 3-3 not a resounding result. Yes maybe the goal.might have lifted us but I doubt it. We were truelly awful Tuesday night and to suggest we lost because of the ref again does not deal with the problems in the team. Every other club has to deal with these officials the table doesn't lie. Without serious improvement we will go down and blaming the ref for it won't make it acceptable.
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Post by Bernie on Nov 30, 2018 8:21:12 GMT
Guess I'm just a glass-half-full type of chap. We've been in worse situations.
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Post by 61666 on Nov 30, 2018 8:55:22 GMT
We all support the team and we all pay money to do so. Therefore we are entitled to cheer, say well done and thank you when things go well. We are also entitled to complain when things are bad and Tuesday was an extreme case of that. We were simply downright awful and supporters are entitled to have their say. Add in that the whole of the last three years haven't been great and people will get upset, not least because it is home form that has been so poor. I go to a match always in the hope of seeing us win, but also to see decent football and if the opposition play us off the park, then sometimes you just have to applaud that. This season, we have seen one league win and a load of very mediocre performances. Add in the fact that most visiting teams haven't exactly been exciting to watch, with weak and/or incompetent officials, is it any wonder folk are moaning? I don't go to every match, but I do go to everyone I can do, so was there for KCS Dover and on Tuesday. That is my choice, and unlike say going to the cinema, where there is a reasonable chance you will enjoy what you pay to see, football (mostly) can't be like that. I do however reserve the right to have a moan, firstly because it is cathartic and secondly, because the team need to know that Tuesday simply was not acceptable at any level and on Saturday, regardless of the result, they need to win back our respect.
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Post by porkystone on Nov 30, 2018 8:59:24 GMT
Glad too know that there will be at least 3 of us ' Stones Supporters ' at Barrow then - probably 4 if NWS shows up from out of the mountains.
COYS
Sounds like a barbershop quartet at least, I can do the bass baritone, volunteers for treble ? Got to be prepared to sing, no point concentrating on the footie, we already know that will be shite.....
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Post by steveh21 on Nov 30, 2018 9:22:26 GMT
We all support the team and we all pay money to do so. Therefore we are entitled to cheer, say well done and thank you when things go well. We are also entitled to complain when things are bad and Tuesday was an extreme case of that. We were simply downright awful and supporters are entitled to have their say. Add in that the whole of the last three years haven't been great and people will get upset, not least because it is home form that has been so poor. I go to a match always in the hope of seeing us win, but also to see decent football and if the opposition play us off the park, then sometimes you just have to applaud that. This season, we have seen one league win and a load of very mediocre performances. Add in the fact that most visiting teams haven't exactly been exciting to watch, with weak and/or incompetent officials, is it any wonder folk are moaning? I don't go to every match, but I do go to everyone I can do, so was there for KCS Dover and on Tuesday. That is my choice, and unlike say going to the cinema, where there is a reasonable chance you will enjoy what you pay to see, football (mostly) can't be like that. I do however reserve the right to have a moan, firstly because it is cathartic and secondly, because the team need to know that Tuesday simply was not acceptable at any level and on Saturday, regardless of the result, they need to win back our respect. This is spot on. Even the most fervent Stones supporter (and I count myself as one for more than 35 years) can have a moan from time to time. The second half on Tuesday was totally unacceptable. Even Harry said the second and third goals were 'embarrassing'. There is a difference, however, between moaning out of frustration and abusing our manager on the touchline or slagging off the people (our owners and Bill etc) who without them we would not have anything to moan about. Win tomorrow and we will all have a smile on our faces again.
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Post by pieman1982 on Nov 30, 2018 9:47:03 GMT
Throwing abuse at the manager on the touch line is not acceptable and I would suggest booing every mistake on the pitch during the game is not true support, but this forum is here for discussion. Without differing views a discussion does not last very long and becomes pretty pointless! If I was the manager of any team I think I would read the fans forum every so often. I say this because with so many eyes in the crowd with such a varied knowledge and experience of the game there could actually be some valid observations that the management team had not or would not have otherwise noticed! There will of course be random statements calling for heads to role, but as a professional manager and “adult” these should be taken on the chin. Other people would say they would not bother to look and that is also fine! Let’s be honest none of us have to read this stuff or comment, we do it because we enjoy it, some like being controversial drawing reactions from others and some just like to know they are not alone in their thinking. The support the club need is first showing up win or lose and encouriging good play. I think as a whole we do that as the Black and Amber army. There are only 5 clubs in the whole league who get more fans at home than us and 4 of them are X league teams! The other Salford who are a fashionable rich man’s toy team! COYS.. PS. Harry if you do read this please drop Walton he is useless 😘
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Post by clydestone on Nov 30, 2018 9:52:28 GMT
Doesnt need to drop Walton tomorrow as he is suspended so takes decision out of managers hands!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 10:08:53 GMT
Why not let people think what they want. We don't need you telling us what to do. You can think what you want Daveu but do you really have to go on an on about how bad you think Harry is doing or who Harry should or should not pick. Harry is the manager it,s what he get,s paid to do an what he is contracted to do for the remainder of this season. So the best we can do as fans is get behind whatever team he selects an support them, if we cannot do that then what,s the point of going to the matches. Dave used to always be the one to tell people to stop moaning at Jay, the players and the club, because negativity was counter-productive - now, because he didn't agree with Jay's sacking, he is happily sticking the knife in left, right and centre into Harry Wheeler both on here and also in the comments section of Kent Online. Yes Dave, you can think what you like as we all can, but it does seem to me you have a bit of an agenda with your criticism, and it comes across as hypocritical. Just sayin'.
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Post by Nick on Nov 30, 2018 10:17:20 GMT
100% I'm not one of the "Sack and abuse Harry Wheeler" group who I think are few in numbers. Out on 'a social' last night and naturally discussed all things Stones. Discovered 2 other supporters who had a poor night's sleep after Tuesday's debacle, for the first time ever following a football match. SNAP ! It was so dreadful, I cannot recall feeling so downhearted about the club we love. Add to that Harry's treatment of George McLennan - a real choker. Yet a player like Walton who seems way past his sell buy date appears first in the team sheet, match after match. We have seen Jay's team dismantled and players we have supported, discarded pretty ruthlessly. There has to be a positive end result to justify the culling of recent weeks. PLEASE Mr Wheeler let it happen on Saturday.
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Post by stonepaperscissors on Nov 30, 2018 10:26:12 GMT
We all support the team and we all pay money to do so. Therefore we are entitled to cheer, say well done and thank you when things go well. We are also entitled to complain when things are bad and Tuesday was an extreme case of that. We were simply downright awful and supporters are entitled to have their say. Add in that the whole of the last three years haven't been great and people will get upset, not least because it is home form that has been so poor. I go to a match always in the hope of seeing us win, but also to see decent football and if the opposition play us off the park, then sometimes you just have to applaud that. This season, we have seen one league win and a load of very mediocre performances. Add in the fact that most visiting teams haven't exactly been exciting to watch, with weak and/or incompetent officials, is it any wonder folk are moaning? I don't go to every match, but I do go to everyone I can do, so was there for KCS Dover and on Tuesday. That is my choice, and unlike say going to the cinema, where there is a reasonable chance you will enjoy what you pay to see, football (mostly) can't be like that. I do however reserve the right to have a moan, firstly because it is cathartic and secondly, because the team need to know that Tuesday simply was not acceptable at any level and on Saturday, regardless of the result, they need to win back our respect. Good fair post 61666. Just my frustration coming out when I said stop moaning 😀
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Post by sword65 on Nov 30, 2018 10:34:11 GMT
[quote source="/post/164132/thread" timestamp="1543568122" This is spot on. Even the most fervent Stones supporter (and I count myself as one for more than 35 years) can have a moan from time to time. The second half on Tuesday was totally unacceptable. Even Harry said the second and third goals were 'embarrassing'. There is a difference, however, between moaning out of frustration and abusing our manager on the touchline or slagging off the people (our owners and Bill etc) who without them we would not have anything to moan about. Win tomorrow and we will all have a smile on our faces again. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if someone tried it on with Bill Williams when he was manager would Bill now be in prison with Mario
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 30, 2018 13:07:31 GMT
You can think what you want Daveu but do you really have to go on an on about how bad you think Harry is doing or who Harry should or should not pick. Harry is the manager it,s what he get,s paid to do an what he is contracted to do for the remainder of this season. So the best we can do as fans is get behind whatever team he selects an support them, if we cannot do that then what,s the point of going to the matches. Dave used to always be the one to tell people to stop moaning at Jay, the players and the club, because negativity was counter-productive - now, because he didn't agree with Jay's sacking, he is happily sticking the knife in left, right and centre into Harry Wheeler both on here and also in the comments section of Kent Online. Yes Dave, you can think what you like as we all can, but it does seem to me you have a bit of an agenda with your criticism, and it comes across as hypocritical. Just sayin'. Careful mate your get Daveu an his happy bunch getting on your case. It seems that as long as Dave is happy then it must be good. Shame life aint like that.He obviously carries a flame for Saunders.
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 30, 2018 13:12:41 GMT
Has anyone said look how far we have come yet?
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