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Post by overthehillstone on Jun 14, 2018 14:13:48 GMT
I have always believed that there are 2 sides to every story, and at the time the sacking of Nicky Southall seemed to me that he had been made a scapegoat for our low league finish to the season. As the club made no statement ( which is their right) we have to made our own conclusions . And after speaking to Nicky recently he is of the same persuasion. But what has really annoyed me is that he was not given a reason and the owners have not had the decency or balls to even talk to him. Having supported my hometown club for over 55yrs man and boy I no longer want to be associated with a company that treats its staff like that.. Good luck for the season because your going to need it..
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Post by exiled on Jun 14, 2018 14:18:53 GMT
Have to agree totally the way it was handled was a complete embarrassment and it supossed to be a professional club
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 14:37:06 GMT
Do we need to know every reason for every coming and going at the club?
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Post by overthehillstone on Jun 14, 2018 14:49:13 GMT
No your right WE do not need to know. But the individual concerned has an entitlement too don't you think ?.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Jun 14, 2018 14:56:45 GMT
People didn't wanna blame Jay for last seasons shambles so just blamed anyone close to him. Was rather bizarre to see people blaming Southall & even Hare for that poor season, but Jay was blame free...
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Post by Nick on Jun 14, 2018 16:22:02 GMT
tbf to Jay, he admitted himself that his own job was as much under threat as anybody else.
it was a disappointing season, Jay kept his job but changes had to be made
both to the playing side and backroom staff
more of the same for next season is not the favoured option or acceptable to the owners
as far as I am aware Nicky Southall was not sacked, his contract was simply not renewed
I don't imagine for a moment that Jay got any pleasure from his actions, but he did it in the interests of the club
and for the success of his signings on and off the field of play, he will be judged at the end of next season.
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Post by exiled on Jun 14, 2018 17:03:51 GMT
tbf to Jay, he admitted himself that his own job was as much under threat as anybody else. it was a disappointing season, Jay kept his job but changes had to be made both to the playing side and backroom staff more of the same for next season is not the favoured option or acceptable to the owners as far as I am aware Nicky Southall was not sacked, his contract was simply not renewed I don't imagine for a moment that Jay got any pleasure from his actions, but he did it in the interests of the club and for the success of his signings on and off the field of play, he will be judged at the end of next season. He certainly has a lot to prove next season but the earlier comments were aimed at the way the news was released by the club which was very amatrish and not really at Jay himself. |
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Post by jakeyboi on Jun 14, 2018 17:43:41 GMT
tbf to Jay, he admitted himself that his own job was as much under threat as anybody else. it was a disappointing season, Jay kept his job but changes had to be made both to the playing side and backroom staff more of the same for next season is not the favoured option or acceptable to the owners as far as I am aware Nicky Southall was not sacked, his contract was simply not renewed I don't imagine for a moment that Jay got any pleasure from his actions, but he did it in the interests of the club and for the success of his signings on and off the field of play, he will be judged at the end of next season. Personally I do not think JS will be given until the end of the season if he does not get off to a winning start, the club will not tolerate another winless streak like last season, nor will the fans accept it no matter how much we trust in JS. As for Southall I was never a big fan of his and I always feel that as a management team they should always share the glory as well as the heartbreak, so maybe he was hard done by but can you really blame the club for bringing in changes? JS has hung onto his job for another season maybe, or maybe he will keep it until a better offer comes along who knows. |
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Post by rockstar on Jun 14, 2018 18:23:14 GMT
People didn't wanna blame Jay for last seasons shambles so just blamed anyone close to him. Was rather bizarre to see people blaming Southall & even Hare for that poor season, but Jay was blame free... Don’t think Jay was blame free. There were quite a few people on here that would be happy if he left. The problem with Nicky was that every training session before a game was the same. There was no change. Every shooting practice was the same shooting from the middle of the goal. Why not shooting at different angles. Maybe crossing it in and heading. We need a change and he just didn’t have his contract renewed and it was time to move on. If it is another poor season again then it may be Jay that moves on next time. Jay has to take a lot of the blame for last season just as much as Nicky. |
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Post by jdl on Jun 14, 2018 19:56:43 GMT
Most football clubs are terrible at managing news and communicating with fans and players/staff. Ours is a great deal better most of the time, but still get it wrong occasionally.
On the other hand, anyone who works in football knows that their job is on the line at all times and there is no security of tenure. And what more reason can anyone give for letting someone go that "sorry, but you're not quite what we want any more and we need to replace you". Everyone knows that's how it is, whether it's fancy words and empty platitudes, or just an embarrassing silence.
Football is basically, and probably of necessity, a dysfunctional world. If we expect anything else, we're kidding ourselves.
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Post by exiled on Jun 14, 2018 20:29:14 GMT
Most football clubs are terrible at managing news and communicating with fans and players/staff. Ours is a great deal better most of the time, but still get it wrong occasionally. On the other hand, anyone who works in football knows that their job is on the line at all times and there is no security of tenure. And what more reason can anyone give for letting someone go that "sorry, but you're not quite what we want any more and we need to replace you". Everyone knows that's how it is, whether it's fancy words and empty platitudes, or just an embarrassing silence. Football is basically, and probably of necessity, a dysfunctional world. If we expect anything else, we're kidding ourselves. Sorry have to strongly disagree we are in the digital age and public communicating is so important now a lot of clubs have a press officer at our level and with a club with our level of support the club could do a lot worse then employing someone in this role or combining it with club secretary role much like the role Mick Mercer had with the original club |
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Post by headstone on Jun 14, 2018 21:26:06 GMT
What happened to Mick Mercer? He was in my patrol in the scouts! I was rather jealous to find him so involved with the Stones.
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Post by exiled on Jun 14, 2018 21:57:08 GMT
What happened to Mick Mercer? He was in my patrol in the scouts! I was rather jealous to find him so involved with the Stones. Retired and still living in Maidstone doubt if there is anyone more suited to write a history of the club in the Jim Thompson era |
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Post by overthehillstone on Jun 14, 2018 22:08:43 GMT
Most football clubs are terrible at managing news and communicating with fans and players/staff. Ours is a great deal better most of the time, but still get it wrong occasionally. On the other hand, anyone who works in football knows that their job is on the line at all times and there is no security of tenure. And what more reason can anyone give for letting someone go that "sorry, but you're not quite what we want any more and we need to replace you". Everyone knows that's how it is, whether it's fancy words and empty platitudes, or just an embarrassing silence.
Football is basically, and probably of necessity, a dysfunctional world. If we expect anything else, we're kidding ourselves. I think if he would have got that, it would have been something |
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Post by jdl on Jun 14, 2018 22:31:57 GMT
Most football clubs are terrible at managing news and communicating with fans and players/staff. Ours is a great deal better most of the time, but still get it wrong occasionally. On the other hand, anyone who works in football knows that their job is on the line at all times and there is no security of tenure. And what more reason can anyone give for letting someone go that "sorry, but you're not quite what we want any more and we need to replace you". Everyone knows that's how it is, whether it's fancy words and empty platitudes, or just an embarrassing silence. Football is basically, and probably of necessity, a dysfunctional world. If we expect anything else, we're kidding ourselves. Sorry have to strongly disagree we are in the digital age and public communicating is so important now a lot of clubs have a press officer at our level and with a club with our level of support the club could do a lot worse then employing someone in this role or combining it with club secretary role much like the role Mick Mercer had with the original club Agree completely. I was just telling it how it is, not as I would like to see it. Stones are better than most, but that isn't much a starting point. |
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