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Post by jt on Nov 25, 2017 14:11:11 GMT
I remember the old days fondly but really can't be bothered with a Kent cup game. Real plastic now we're home
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Post by SouthOxonStone on Nov 25, 2017 14:37:26 GMT
Do you not remember the FA Cup games??? Ah, the cup games? Yesterday I had to change my online password for my pension. That was fine, but then I was asked to enter 4 answers to questions. One was 'your favourite sporting memory.' The first thing that came to mind was that 2-0 win at Priestfield in 1980. Our 'friendly' rivalry with GFC is never forgotten.
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Post by pedant on Nov 26, 2017 11:17:14 GMT
Do you not remember the FA Cup games??? Ah, the cup games? Yesterday I had to change my online password for my pension. That was fine, but then I was asked to enter 4 answers to questions. One was 'your favourite sporting memory.' The first thing that came to mind was that 2-0 win at Priestfield in 1980. Our 'friendly' rivalry with GFC is never forgotten. Or, could it be that as one advances in years the short term memory becomes less reliable so that one has to rely on events from long ago?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 14:29:41 GMT
Do you not remember the FA Cup games??? Ah, the cup games? Yesterday I had to change my online password for my pension. That was fine, but then I was asked to enter 4 answers to questions. One was 'your favourite sporting memory.' The first thing that came to mind was that 2-0 win at Priestfield in 1980. Our 'friendly' rivalry with GFC is never forgotten. Were the answers to the other 3 questions Horlicks, in the glass on the bedside table and can't remember?
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Post by MFCSTONE on Nov 26, 2017 18:57:19 GMT
Allticket against Gills? Who'd have thought it as some fans do not see us as rivals? FFS, I'm entitled to my opinion. I'll consider them rivals when we play them regularly. If others want to cling on to the past that's also their choice.
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Post by MFCSTONE on Nov 26, 2017 18:58:52 GMT
This local derby/rivalry in my eyes is as important as Millwall v West ham come on you stones
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Nov 26, 2017 20:54:28 GMT
The Bristol derby is quite lively as is the south coast derby.
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Post by pmhnot on Nov 26, 2017 21:04:51 GMT
Win , lose or draw and regardless of the occasion , it will be great to see Maidstone United take on Gillingham FC. Would there be a replay in the event of a draw or will it be penalties ?!?. A replay would mean the biggest crowd seen at Priestfields this Millennium !!.
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Post by jdl on Nov 26, 2017 21:52:49 GMT
This local derby/rivalry in my eyes is as important as Millwall v West ham come on you stones That's an interesting comparison. The Millwall thing is still there for Hammers, but they haven't been in the same division for so long now that it's become more myth than reality. If they did play each other, it would reignite (although more on the Millwall side), but it would be nothing like it used to be. Modern-day rivals are Spurs and Chelsea, with Le Arse as well for some (although many Hammers have a sneaking respect for Arsenal). But, although Spurs still hate West Ham, their real rivals will always be Arsenal, and Chelsea these days are far more interested in Man U, Man City, Arsenal, etc than West Ham. Which illustrates nicely how long-term rivalries can get out of sync and you end up with one-way rivalry. A case in point would be Tonbridge - beating us would be Christmas for them, but how many Stones fans ever even think of Tonbridge these days? And, arguably, the same applies to us and the Gills - do they really bother that much about us? I suspect they do. Because the Gills-Stones rivalry is a bit different to most. Mainly because we are the only two senior clubs in this part of the world, and almost next door to each other, but also because, for a dozen or so years in the 80s and 90s we emerged as genuine rivals to the Gills - beginning with the Cup defeat and ending with us bettering them in the Fourth Division. They could no longer dismiss us as the non-league club over the hill, but had to take us seriously as genuine competitors. It must have been a relief to them when we folded, and for 24 years they could forget us - but here we are again, and once more they are looking nervously over their shoulders. Our history has been one of rapid upwards progress, a period in the wilderness, and, again, rapid upward progress, whilst, apart from their brief moment in the Championship, Gills have had season after season of non-achievement, false dawns and disappointments. In the same way as most Stones fans expect us to do better and better, Gills fans have come to terms with year-in, year-out mediocrity, with only brief periods to lighten the mood. They know, in their hearts, that when we get back into the League, we will be the successful club and they will be the poor neighbours. We may still not be the team to beat for Gills fans, but in a few years, we will become their obsession.
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Post by nws on Nov 27, 2017 0:17:54 GMT
Win , lose or draw and regardless of the occasion , it will be great to see Maidstone United take on Gillingham FC. Would there be a replay in the event of a draw or will it be penalties ?!?. A replay would mean the biggest crowd seen at Priestfields this Millennium !!. It just needs to be moved from the 12th!
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Post by headstone on Nov 27, 2017 9:20:48 GMT
But, although Spurs still hate West Ham, their real rivals will always be Arsenal, and Chelsea these days are far more interested in Man U, Man City, Arsenal, etc than West Ham. Surely Chelsea's main rivals are, and always have been, Fulham. Which is somewhat similar to our situation with Gillingham ie no actual derbies for long periods. But they are still the local rivals.
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Nov 27, 2017 10:13:21 GMT
442 Magazine recently had a poll into what is the most intense local derby.
1) Celtic vs. Rangers Never will you experience a more hate-filled atmosphere when the two teams contest the Old Firm derby at both Ibrox and Celtic Park. The religious undercurrent has often seen supporters' passion extend beyond the walls of both stadia, although in 1980 thousands of fans rioted in an on-pitch battle in the aftermath of Celtic's 1-0 Scottish Cup win at Hampden Park.
2) Swansea Vs. Cardiff Violence has dogged this fixture for years and has even see a former player locked up for his involvement in crowd trouble. In 2002, Dai Thomas was jailed for 60 days and banned from all football grounds in England and Wales for six years. The former striker was caught on camera throwing an advertising hoarding towards Leeds fans during a pitch invasion, while away fans have also previously been banned from even attending games.
3) West Ham Vs. Millwall Perhaps the most notorious of rivalries, meetings between these two - although rare due to the contrasting fortunes of one another - still bring unwanted attention. Trouble erupted as recent as last season in their second round League Cup clash, we blame that Hobbit fella - Elijah Wood.
4) Tottenham Vs. Arsenal Few players would have been brave enough to make the switch across north London and Sol Campbell's decision to join the Gunners from Spurs in 2001 still irks the White Hart Lane faithful. However, many Tottenham fans point to the fact that north London is Spurs' turf and that Arsenal only moved to the area in 1913 from their original Woolwich home.
5) Southampton Vs. Portsmouth In 2004, then Pompey manager Harry Redknapp infuriated fans when he stepped down and joined Southampton only to return a year later having been relegated with the Saints. This only further soured relations and despite both clubs coming perilously close to collapse in recent times, the 'scummers' (Southampton) and 'skates' (Portsmouth) really do detest one another.
6) Hibs Vs. Hearts This is one of the oldest, dating back to 1875 and, like Celtic in the Old Firm, Hibs' origins are in Ireland. Both teams have won four League titles in a division dominated by the Glasgow giants, however, Hearts have claimed the Scottish Cup on seven occasions, the most recent in 2006 where they thumped their Edinburgh neighbours 4-0 in the semi-final at Hampden Park. Hibs have won just twice.
7) Man City Vs. Man United United's bulging trophy cabinet has no doubt intensified City's loathing for them, who delight in pointing out that their club is actually in Manchester. However, their capture of Carlos Tevez from United together with the Middle East millions Sheik Mansour has injected will have some Blues fans hoping it won't be long until the tides turn.
8) Birmingham Vs. Aston Villa Birmingham, like Man City, may well lay claim to the city given that they are closer to its centre but that doesn't stop Villa fans from pointing to their sizeable collection of trophies, a collection that includes the European Cup and one which dwarfs that of Birmingham's. Passions still run high though and the two Midland titans have been enjoying their more frequent meetings in recent years.
9) Sunderland Vs. Newcastle Sunderland fans were no doubt delighted to see Newcastle relegated the season before last and their subsequent struggle since returning to Premier League action will have kept the smiles on their faces. This is another fixture that has seen an away fans ban when Sunderland stopped their Geordie counterparts from attending a fixture in 1996 over concerns for safety at a very old Roker Park. Newcastle responded by doing the same in the return game.
10) Liverpool Vs. Everton Only Stanley Park separates the two and despite being labelled the 'friendly derby', those involved will tell you nothing could be further from the truth. The fixture has seen countless classics contested, the 1991 4-4 FA Cup tie and Ian Rush's four goal haul in the Reds' 5-0 1982 win spring to mind. However, the mighty Reds struggle this term will have had the blue half of the city in stitches and their derby day win will have delighted them further.
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Post by jdl on Nov 27, 2017 10:23:34 GMT
But, although Spurs still hate West Ham, their real rivals will always be Arsenal, and Chelsea these days are far more interested in Man U, Man City, Arsenal, etc than West Ham. Surely Chelsea's main rivals are, and always have been, Fulham. Which is somewhat similar to our situation with Gillingham ie no actual derbies for long periods. But they are still the local rivals. I'd class that as another of those one-sided rivalries that time forgot. Fulham hate Chelsea, but the average Chelsea fan's attitude to Fulham is "who?". It's a bit like West Ham having a rivalry with Orient.
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Post by jdl on Nov 27, 2017 10:29:00 GMT
"However, many Tottenham fans point to the fact that north London is Spurs' turf and that Arsenal only moved to the area in 1913 from their original Woolwich home."
Wonderful! only 104 years ago! The First World War hadn't even happened, Russia was still a Tsarist empire and Ireland was still part of the UK.
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Post by daveu on Nov 27, 2017 10:45:39 GMT
My opinion on this may be contrary and not to everyone's liking, but it's certainly sparked some interesting conversation. I also have to point out that I come from a different perspective to many of you, having not really been a supporter back in the 80s and 90s. I followed the results in the KM, and the saga of the club's downfall through all the local media, but as someone who played on Saturdays I only ever attended a few games as an interested outsider, so wasn't really aware of the rivalry at the time. I guess this I why I find it illogical now.
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