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Post by harryhaddock on Apr 15, 2017 21:02:39 GMT
Just looking on the Lincoln forum and it appears we may have a number of Lincoln fans in the home end a week on Tuesday. Given it could be the game they win the league think there could be at least 50, if not more, on the wrong side of the divide. I'm personally not too bothered about it if people behave, but they'll definitely be the chance for things to flare up if the Lincoln fans openly celebrate should they score.
As a club we're only just starting to get to grips with this kind of thing with large teams visiting for important games, just hope we don't underestimate what could happen and have the right stewarding in place should it be needed. As I say no problem from me, and I don't think we should go all Ebbsfleet about it, but football fans do tend to get a bit annoyed when opposition fans celebrate in their end when a games segregated.
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Post by nws on Apr 15, 2017 21:13:10 GMT
Its fun to have a shout and a sing etc. but the OTT tribalism that goes on within football is pathetic. If I was standing next to a Lincoln supporter then I wouldn't care if he shouted for his team and I wouldn't care one jot if he celebrated a goal or a victory. I shake his hand, wish him well in the next league up and let him have his moment of glory. After all haven't we celebrated at Dulwich, Folkestone, Deal, Sevenoaks etc in the past?
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Post by harryhaddock on Apr 15, 2017 21:25:27 GMT
Its fun to have a shout and a sing etc. but the OTT tribalism that goes on within football is pathetic. If I was standing next to a Lincoln supporter then I wouldn't care if he shouted for his team and I wouldn't care one jot if he celebrated a goal or a victory. I shake his hand, wish him well in the next league up and let him have his moment of glory. After all haven't we celebrated at Dulwich, Folkestone, Deal, Sevenoaks etc in the past? I agree NWS, from my perspective no issue, unfortunately in a crowd of 3,000 it only takes a few who think differently to cause an issue. As soon as games are segregated it encourages tribalism and a view of 'he shouldn't be in our bit'. Amazing the change in how people think when they're forced to be separated from each other, it almost encourages issues at times. Now I completely understand why it's done, it wouldn't be my preference, but I can see there's little option. Given this I'm just hoping everyone takes your view and that we put the right support in place to nip any issues in the bud should some take a different view. |
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Post by Nick on Apr 15, 2017 21:41:33 GMT
it does appear from the Lincoln forum that some of their supporters down in Kent and a little further afield may be joining us in the home end
nws speaks for himself in describing his attitude towards this mixing, but I also think he captures the spirt of most Stones fans
whatever the numbers, the more the merrier, and we can look forward to a great atmosphere and a great match
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Post by sonthestone on Apr 15, 2017 21:46:48 GMT
Lincoln fans aren't welcome in the home end, the home end is the home end the away end is the away end. If they can't get a ticket they'll have to miss out.
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Post by daveu on Apr 15, 2017 22:11:25 GMT
Its fun to have a shout and a sing etc. but the OTT tribalism that goes on within football is pathetic. If I was standing next to a Lincoln supporter then I wouldn't care if he shouted for his team and I wouldn't care one jot if he celebrated a goal or a victory. I shake his hand, wish him well in the next league up and let him have his moment of glory. After all haven't we celebrated at Dulwich, Folkestone, Deal, Sevenoaks etc in the past? Rather missing the point here mate. If by buying tickets in the home end they are depriving regular stones fans of the chance to attend that is out of order, and if they can be identified the club should refuse them entry. |
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Post by madeinstone70 on Apr 15, 2017 22:17:56 GMT
Its fun to have a shout and a sing etc. but the OTT tribalism that goes on within football is pathetic. If I was standing next to a Lincoln supporter then I wouldn't care if he shouted for his team and I wouldn't care one jot if he celebrated a goal or a victory. I shake his hand, wish him well in the next league up and let him have his moment of glory. After all haven't we celebrated at Dulwich, Folkestone, Deal, Sevenoaks etc in the past? Rather missing the point here mate. If by buying tickets in the home end they are depriving regular stones fans of the chance to attend that is out of order, and if they can be identified the club should refuse them entry. Not sold out any game this season so far so I don't think anyone will be getting deprived. If I was a lincoln fan I would do anything it takes to be at that match. There's plenty of tickets to go around. |
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Post by madeinstone70 on Apr 15, 2017 22:19:56 GMT
Lincoln fans aren't welcome in the home end, the home end is the home end the away end is the away end. If they can't get a ticket they'll have to miss out. No one will be missing out mate, get used to the fact there will be plenty of Lincoln in our end. |
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Post by bendubz on Apr 15, 2017 22:32:59 GMT
£15 is £15, if it means we get a full house why not let Lincoln fans in the home end. We'll have nothing to play for and it could be their coronation as champs.
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Post by goingup on Apr 15, 2017 23:09:08 GMT
If we're safe, why be party poopers? Give them the new stand for the match - give them the 1700 capacity. Especially if we're not going to sell the all tickets!
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Post by gromley on Apr 15, 2017 23:48:53 GMT
Its fun to have a shout and a sing etc. but the OTT tribalism that goes on within football is pathetic. If I was standing next to a Lincoln supporter then I wouldn't care if he shouted for his team and I wouldn't care one jot if he celebrated a goal or a victory. I shake his hand, wish him well in the next league up and let him have his moment of glory. After all haven't we celebrated at Dulwich, Folkestone, Deal, Sevenoaks etc in the past? Rather missing the point here mate. If by buying tickets in the home end they are depriving regular stones fans of the chance to attend that is out of order, and if they can be identified the club should refuse them entry. I disagree Dave. It's a bit like the mirror of the Gravesend game last year. Although I think the game was ultimately a sell out, I don't think that one can really say that any genuine Fleet fans were denied a chance to see the game by the presence of some Stones fans in the home end. I'd much rather see passionate fans of either team have the opportunity see the game over and above "bank holiday occassionals" . Nothing against occasionals in that and to be honest I'd be happiest if the demand for tickets were exactly equal to the capacity. More generally, I'm of the school that would rather see segregated matches being the exception rather than the rule as I personally think it does more to create potential antagonism than it does to prevent it. |
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Post by HartleyHare on Apr 16, 2017 6:08:37 GMT
The game could end up having a real party atmosphere to it - could and should be a celebration of us staying up and (probably) Lincoln winning the league. I see no reason for any nastiness or aggro, just let it be a great end of season night with a good game and a special atmosphere ! ⚽️🍻🎉 (And a home win of course ..... !)
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Post by daveu on Apr 16, 2017 6:26:13 GMT
Rather missing the point here mate. If by buying tickets in the home end they are depriving regular stones fans of the chance to attend that is out of order, and if they can be identified the club should refuse them entry. I disagree Dave. It's a bit like the mirror of the Gravesend game last year. Although I think the game was ultimately a sell out, I don't think that one can really say that any genuine Fleet fans were denied a chance to see the game by the presence of some Stones fans in the home end. I'd much rather see passionate fans of either team have the opportunity see the game over and above "bank holiday occassionals" . Nothing against occasionals in that and to be honest I'd be happiest if the demand for tickets were exactly equal to the capacity. More generally, I'm of the school that would rather see segregated matches being the exception rather than the rule as I personally think it does more to create potential antagonism than it does to prevent it. As long as we don't end up being outnumbered by the morons who post on the national league banter page. It's pretty much been taken over by Tranmere and Lincoln and the make this place look like a model of decorum and sensitivity. |
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Post by Benny on Apr 16, 2017 7:13:30 GMT
Oh for goodness sake Dave. You'll be in the Main Stand, so won't be outnumbered by anyone except the pensioner firm. Those of us who stand next to visiting fans most home matches, will make any Lincoln fans welcome. We chat, support our respective teams, and I've even been known to shake random northern hands upon losing. It's what reasonable human beings do. Please don't talk this up into some major confrontation from the safety and comfort of the oldie seats, because it won't be you living with the consequences of Internet "banter".
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Post by daveu on Apr 16, 2017 7:43:56 GMT
I'm not talking it up to anything. I just rather that home tickets went to stones fans or potential new supporters who might come back in the future, not a load of people who whine about their allocation and think they have a divine right to take tickets away from home supporters. Also, I hope they don't win the league at the Gallagher because that will probably mean they beat us.
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