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Post by aristotle38 on Oct 16, 2016 17:19:47 GMT
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 16, 2016 17:21:18 GMT
Sorry - Page not found Perhaps this page has been moved or the URL has been mistyped
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Post by aristotle38 on Oct 16, 2016 17:35:08 GMT
Bugger. No idea sorry. Haven't mistyped
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Post by Tony G on Oct 16, 2016 17:38:03 GMT
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 16, 2016 17:39:20 GMT
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Post by jt on Oct 16, 2016 18:21:35 GMT
Is topped reading it when I got to the crux of the article which was this paragraph.
The question relates to the kind of tyres or rubber products being recycled and the FA is unequivocal that its rubber crumb meets the European Union standards previously ignored in Holland. The Zembla investigation discovered that some of the rubber crumb used in pitches in Holland had come from rubber pipes used in the petrochemical industry. The question remains: how does anyone track the specific history of a mass recycled waste product?
It's a story on previously cutting corners and not 3G.
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Post by moley on Oct 16, 2016 18:38:06 GMT
Read between the lines and what they are basically saying is you can't use any old rubber.
This appears to be a problem (well known) with the petrochemicals that used to be in contact with the rubber, not the rubber itself
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Post by Sennockian69 on Oct 16, 2016 19:06:54 GMT
So the story is a story about the incorrect rubber crumbs used.
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Post by pwe on Oct 16, 2016 19:40:14 GMT
Does our new pitch have the rubber crumb? - you don't see it 'splash' up when the ball bounces on it, or during a sliding tackle for example, as was very obvious with the old surface
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Post by jdl on Oct 16, 2016 19:48:33 GMT
Does our new pitch have the rubber crumb? - you don't see it 'splash' up when the ball bounces on it, or during a sliding tackle for example, as was very obvious with the old surface It has a far more subtle crumb. Sourced only from organic fair-trade farms where the crumbs are individually hand-picked only at full moon, and gently rolled between the thighs of nubile virgins for exactly 2 hours and 32 minutes.
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Post by Tstone on Oct 16, 2016 19:54:28 GMT
Does our new pitch have the rubber crumb? - you don't see it 'splash' up when the ball bounces on it, or during a sliding tackle for example, as was very obvious with the old surface It has a far more subtle crumb. Sourced only from organic fair-trade farms where the crumbs are individually hand-picked only at full moon, and gently rolled between the thighs of nubile virgins for exactly 2 hours and 32 minutes. That smells fishy
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Post by themodfather on Oct 18, 2016 10:26:47 GMT
Does our new pitch have the rubber crumb? - you don't see it 'splash' up when the ball bounces on it, or during a sliding tackle for example, as was very obvious with the old surface The 'new' pitch does have rubber crumb but you are right, the crumb doesn't splash up as much as previously. My team train on it and it is much more stable than the old one. There is a distinct reduction in the amount of crumb in this pitch and we are finding less 'burns' when sliding on it. Much more appealing than our current home pitch at Oakwood which continually has broken Smirnoff Ice bottles all over it ;-(
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Post by jdl on Oct 18, 2016 11:26:02 GMT
Does our new pitch have the rubber crumb? - you don't see it 'splash' up when the ball bounces on it, or during a sliding tackle for example, as was very obvious with the old surface The 'new' pitch does have rubber crumb but you are right, the crumb doesn't splash up as much as previously. My team train on it and it is much more stable than the old one. There is a distinct reduction in the amount of crumb in this pitch and we are finding less 'burns' when sliding on it. Much more appealing than our current home pitch at Oakwood which continually has broken Smirnoff Ice bottles all over it ;-( Very discerning vandals - only Smirnoff Ice? In the days when I took my lad to Sunday morning football every freezing, windy, wet weekend of the winter, it wasn't broken glass that was the problem, it was dog shit. While most sane people were still tucked up warmly in bed, myself and several other poor benighted dads would be pacing out a football pitch on some windblown, arctic expanse somewhere in deepest Kent, trowel and bucket in hand, scraping up dog shit. Ooh look, a lovely flat piece of grass with lines on it and goal posts at either end - can't be used for anything, let's let our dogs run all over it and crap where they like... My lad was a decent right back, who showed some promise, but I was quite glad when he lost interest in football.
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Post by themodfather on Oct 18, 2016 12:32:06 GMT
The 'new' pitch does have rubber crumb but you are right, the crumb doesn't splash up as much as previously. My team train on it and it is much more stable than the old one. There is a distinct reduction in the amount of crumb in this pitch and we are finding less 'burns' when sliding on it. Much more appealing than our current home pitch at Oakwood which continually has broken Smirnoff Ice bottles all over it ;-( Very discerning vandals - only Smirnoff Ice? In the days when I took my lad to Sunday morning football every freezing, windy, wet weekend of the winter, it wasn't broken glass that was the problem, it was dog shit. While most sane people were still tucked up warmly in bed, myself and several other poor benighted dads would be pacing out a football pitch on some windblown, arctic expanse somewhere in deepest Kent, trowel and bucket in hand, scraping up dog shit. Ooh look, a lovely flat piece of grass with lines on it and goal posts at either end - can't be used for anything, let's let our dogs run all over it and crap where they like... My lad was a decent right back, who showed some promise, but I was quite glad when he lost interest in football. The youth of today have far too much money clearly, whatever happened to Diamond White or Olde English Cider? I agree with the comment on dog shit too, yeah lets take our dog on that nice mown (or should that say mowed?), my apologies to the more discerning reader, surface for it to crap on and not clear it up. Joking aside, what idiots choose to break glass on what are clearly childrens football pitches?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 11:55:30 GMT
Read between the lines and what they are basically saying is you can't use any old rubber. This appears to be a problem (well known) with the petrochemicals that used to be in contact with the rubber, not the rubber itself You don't even need to read between the lines. The article makes it pretty clear: 'The question relates to the kind of tyres or rubber products being recycled and the FA is unequivocal that its rubber crumb meets the European Union standards previously ignored in Holland. The Zembla investigation discovered that some of the rubber crumb used in pitches in Holland had come from rubber pipes used in the petrochemical industry. The question remains: how does anyone track the specific history of a mass recycled waste product?" This is an issue local to Holland and the apparently reckless disregard for Eu guidelines on safe rubber crumb.
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