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Post by tim on Mar 9, 2014 22:45:04 GMT
It might seem an obvious Statement, but Managers and Players with the qualities that we seem to be demanding from our Manager and Team ply their trade at a higher level consistently. Jay should be applauded for never, as far as I am aware, laying blame on the tools that he has at his disposal. Quiet assuredness in taking a newly promoted team to the brink of a second successive promotion would be attracting attention from Clubs much higher up the footballing ladder, yet there seems to be far more criticism than applause for his achievements. I have travelled to all of the last 3 games and my overwhelming feeling at the end of each of the games was disappointment rather than despondence! I have also seen all of the other teams in the League play and, without doubt, Dulwich Hamlet are one of the 3 best footballing sides. Maybe they don't have a Plan B either as they too have lost their last 3 games, but teams have a style which, if it proves successful (and we are both in the top 3 at present, a measure of some success) teams rarely change their plans. Adaptation of those plans can work, but they can equally fail if there is an unfamiliarity with the structure/formation. When it works, it was marvellous, when it doesn't, the Manager is criticised for not having a clue. Enough negativity! That only ever has one effect! Poorer performances! I hear what you say, and you make a reasonable argument on the face of it. However the 'newly promote team' was strengthened by possibly the best goalkeeper and striker from a league above and the manager has the resource of an 8k transfer! What team at our level pays a transfer fee? I'm also unaware of clubs beating our door down to take him to a better job! Just because Dulwich don’t have a plan B doesn't make it right, maybe their 3 losses have more to do with them being skint! They also stick to their footballing principles and don’t hoof it when things aren't going well, you can also see Gavin Rose style in their play, because it's the same as it was at Beckenham! This is not a knee jerk reaction to the recent results; the performances this year have generally not been good. I want to see us make progress, but in reality, our tactics and style haven't moved forward since our last season at Sittingbourne, if you have a manager learning shouldn't they learn? I accept that criticism does not lead to better performance, (which is why I'm appalled of the treatment of some of our players at a match) but nor does pretending there isn't a problem As for blaming it on our No 2, I can't accept it, the man in charge will take the plaudits, so he must be responsible if it’s not going well!
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Post by tim on Mar 9, 2014 23:02:57 GMT
Did the guys that are telling us to keep our chin up go to the 3 games? I did, 700 miles for a couple of 'nice meals' in a nice area! Lowestoft, a bit unlucky should have got something! Lewes, bright start, taken apart second half, without Worgs it could have been 6! Leiston, woeful, 2 shots, 1 on target (of sorts) but I won’t accept they didn't put the effort in We just don’t deem to have a plan when things do not go right, we don’t seem to get any passion or coaching from our bench! I've said before, I don’t want a Lloyd Hume balling at the players, but most successful managers get their points over to the players during the game, and change it when necessary, we don’t I don’t care if we don’t go up, I've seen enough of the bad years to realise that we're having it quite good relatively, but I want to see progress. I'm sorry if this upsets people, but we are no further forward with our plans and tactics then we were 2 years ago, we've just got better / more expensive players! If teams play open against us we're ok, if they stifle us we haven't a clue. Yes we've got injuries, but why are we shocked? All teams suffer injuries during a season, but we have signed players with a track record of this! The travelling this week was tough on the players, but if we were to get promoted into the Connie south, this would happen a lot more I don’t know what the answer is, but a win against Dulwich, which is likely because they will come at us, will just paper over a few cracks! However, I will, god willing, watch all our remaining games and I will support them 100% at the game! Rant over! COYS I was about to say, that's the cause of the problems then, but then I realised Tim had written "points", not "pints", as I'd originally read it! Where's the nearest Specsavers? I'd suggest two milk bottle ends attached to a bit of wire might be more appropriate! However, as you asked the Stamford at Lowestoft was first rate, even had something fizzy for those who haven't grown up yet, (even toon was converted) At Leiston the White Horse had Ghost Ship and a decent Cheeseburger Lewes had a nice pint of Harvey's, an odd couple cabaret at the burger bar, and loads of piss in the toilets (unfortunately not contained in the urinals)
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Post by nws on Mar 9, 2014 23:04:48 GMT
Wealdstone will win the league. I suspect Dulwich will come second. Our performances this year do not suggest we will be top three. However, we may get our act together and cme third. We do have a cup final to go to so I suggest everyone stops moaning and gets ready to enjoy a day out. We have a fair chance of silverware.
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Post by tim on Mar 9, 2014 23:10:35 GMT
There spoken by a 'fan' that doesn’t go to games unless they are free, or arrives at half time!
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Post by frankinstone on Mar 9, 2014 23:23:51 GMT
Wealdstone will win the league. I suspect Dulwich will come second. Our performances this year do not suggest we will be top three. However, we may get our act together and cme third. We do have a cup final to go to so I suggest everyone stops moaning and gets ready to enjoy a day out. We have a fair chance of silverware. I concur
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Post by jdl on Mar 9, 2014 23:34:11 GMT
Could it just be that the players now know that, whatever they do, we won't be in the play-offs?
I'm not saying that they aren't giving 100% because of this, but psychology is at least half of football, and knowing it doesn't matter might well stop you from giving that extra bit or risking that possible injury. We are effectively in end-of-season mode, the players' minds will be what they are doing during the summer and what next season might hold for them, not trying to do well in a competition that no longer really matters.
As for the League Cup, I'm sorry but this is no compensation for not winning the league or getting in the play-offs. Getting to Wembley in the Trophy or doing well in the FAC, yes, but the Robert Dyas Cup? Who, outside the Ryman League, has heard of that?
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Post by payno on Mar 10, 2014 11:09:37 GMT
Is that the excuse for the past 3/4 months worth of terrible displays we've dropped points at home drawing against mid to lower reach of the table sides! Because we know there's nothing to play for? We used to win away! But terrible displays at thamesmead,harrow and Leiston and defeats at Lowestoft and Lewes recently! it's a good job we played so well and got the wins on the board August-December! We just look a completely different side to that confident,happy organised unit we had then! There looks like there's too many individuals out there worried about there own display first and not how the side play! We must be alongsides the relegation battlers on the form table based on form since jan 1st to now! And I know yes were all gonna go back to saying being in the top 3/4 is more than we expected for the season but based on what I've seen the past 3 months it simply hasn't been good enough and it's all the first half of the seasons displays that have kept the season looking decent! The way they've performed away of late and liking a draw at home the season could pitter out now and end up finishing up in 7th or 8th would that be so great based on the position we've had for the majority of the season?
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Post by jdl on Mar 10, 2014 17:44:56 GMT
Is that the excuse for the past 3/4 months worth of terrible displays we've dropped points at home drawing against mid to lower reach of the table sides! Because we know there's nothing to play for? We used to win away! But terrible displays at thamesmead,harrow and Leiston and defeats at Lowestoft and Lewes recently! it's a good job we played so well and got the wins on the board August-December! We just look a completely different side to that confident,happy organised unit we had then! There looks like there's too many individuals out there worried about there own display first and not how the side play! We must be alongsides the relegation battlers on the form table based on form since jan 1st to now! And I know yes were all gonna go back to saying being in the top 3/4 is more than we expected for the season but based on what I've seen the past 3 months it simply hasn't been good enough and it's all the first half of the seasons displays that have kept the season looking decent! The way they've performed away of late and liking a draw at home the season could pitter out now and end up finishing up in 7th or 8th would that be so great based on the position we've had for the majority of the season? Just a theory, not an excuse. As to why we drew at home so many times, Gob alone knows. Had we won just a few of those, we'd still be sitting on the top of the table, with even Wealdstone struggling to catch up. Maybe it's bringing Rooney into the team that's messed things up? (I'm not being entirely tongue in cheek here, weirder things have happened.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 17:51:42 GMT
Is that the excuse for the past 3/4 months worth of terrible displays we've dropped points at home drawing against mid to lower reach of the table sides! Because we know there's nothing to play for? We used to win away! But terrible displays at thamesmead,harrow and Leiston and defeats at Lowestoft and Lewes recently! it's a good job we played so well and got the wins on the board August-December! We just look a completely different side to that confident,happy organised unit we had then! There looks like there's too many individuals out there worried about there own display first and not how the side play! We must be alongsides the relegation battlers on the form table based on form since jan 1st to now! And I know yes were all gonna go back to saying being in the top 3/4 is more than we expected for the season but based on what I've seen the past 3 months it simply hasn't been good enough and it's all the first half of the seasons displays that have kept the season looking decent! The way they've performed away of late and liking a draw at home the season could pitter out now and end up finishing up in 7th or 8th would that be so great based on the position we've had for the majority of the season? Just a theory, not an excuse. As to why we drew at home so many times, Gob alone knows. Had we won just a few of those, we'd still be sitting on the top of the table, with even Wealdstone struggling to catch up. Maybe it's bringing Rooney into the team that's messed things up? (I'm not being entirely tongue in cheek here, weirder things have happened.) ahh Rooney, yes.
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Post by jdl on Mar 10, 2014 17:53:12 GMT
Can we blame it all on Rooney then?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 17:54:16 GMT
Can we blame it all on Rooney then? I am more than happy to comply with that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 17:56:33 GMT
I am not trying to shit-stir or cause trouble, but if you look at our results after the arrival of Mr J Parkinson have took a turn for the worst. I am not implying that he is a bad player.
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Post by toonarmy on Mar 10, 2014 18:10:49 GMT
Step away from the keyboard
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Post by jt on Mar 10, 2014 18:15:17 GMT
Rooney is ok but I don't think he's worth 300k a week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 18:16:34 GMT
Step away from the keyboard Only stating the obvious, haven't mentioned the ability of any player......yet .
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