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Post by daveu on Apr 11, 2024 7:01:48 GMT
The funniest one that I saw, claimed that we had printed a flag about said player, especially for their arrival. Imagine thinking you are such a significant fixture for a team that just beat Championship Opposition, that they would print a flag in your honour. Despite Yeovil fans trying to downplay their disgusting behaviour, they should face fines and bans. We are not the first club where families were targeted. The league, however, seems more focused on ensuring that our upcoming game against Weymouth takes place as scheduled. And has refused to fine Yeovil for the previous incidents. Perhaps that's why the manager thinks it's acceptable to praise the supporters "fight". Attacking families and young children after a game is despicable. Anyone that sprints across a road to do this is a cretin. There is an easily searchable photo of a very well known Maidstone fan flashing a name in large font on his screen directly at Yeovil fans. If I know his name, so does the club. Not only did Oliver defend him and try to direct all the blame at Yeovil fans, that fan has since been seen still attending home games. The club hierarchy have no interest in banning troublemakers, or making the match day experience less unpleasant for the majority who just want to watch the football. That’s not to say the actions of Yeovil fans were in any way acceptable, but if they been segregated in the Town End, searched on entry and held back a few minutes at the end, none of that trouble would have happened. Absolute fantasy. Oliver has never defended the trouble makers. And as for deflecting blame, also utter bollocks. Yeovil fans came prepared for trouble and were as much, if not more, to blame than any of our fans. You don’t turn up to football with smoke bombs unless you’re out to cause trouble.
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Post by Benny on Apr 11, 2024 7:30:29 GMT
Oliver’s immediate reaction was to threaten to ban all Yeovil fans, which is almost certainly against league rules, a threat which was then deleted. He was also made aware of the photo, but the person involved still attends home games. Yeovil fans behaviour was inexcusable, but let’s not pretend the wanker barrier is populated by sweet little angels who never do any wrong. But it could have all been easily prevented without the need for bans by proper segregation in different stands.
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Post by daveu on Apr 11, 2024 7:53:14 GMT
Oliver’s immediate reaction was to threaten to ban all Yeovil fans, which is almost certainly against league rules, a threat which was then deleted. He was also made aware of the photo, but the person involved still attends home games. Yeovil fans behaviour was inexcusable, but let’s not pretend the wanker barrier is populated by sweet little angels who never do any wrong. But it could have all been easily prevented without the need for bans by proper segregation in different stands. Threatening to ban Yeovil fans however you view it cannot be construed as defending our fans. The club has consistently condemned the behaviour of an element of our fans (I guess you never read Bill’s programme notes) but I guess you need more evidence than a photo of someone holding up a phone to ban them.
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Post by sword65 on Apr 11, 2024 12:03:47 GMT
That is such a load of bollocks sword ! Was this statement from the owners before or after the £700,000 profit from the cup run. After. Oliver said that the original estimate of £750,000 for the riverside would now be around the £1.2 million mark and way out of the clubs budget. With the pitch and last seasons losses taking up a good percentage of cup profits plus minor improvements already planned there is little money left and i would assume that,should we go up,what is left will support an increase in player budget though that is only my opinion.
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Post by yorkshirestone on Apr 11, 2024 12:06:05 GMT
Need to calmly walk in there and take it I actually did that for one first half where the gate was open and the ends not swapped. Was one of just two home fans. No animosity or rioting. Kids who were responding to the barrier wankers were perfectly polite and civil to my face. Amazing what happens when reasonable human beings are in close proximity to each other, instead of being encouraged by Genco to act like warring tribes. Who at Maidstone Borough Council is responsible for ground safety? Maybe time for letters pointing out the potential dangers in the current set up. Same with the police. Wonder how the owners of Genco think having their name linked to crowd trouble helps their corporate image. These decisions are not tablets to Moses from on high. They are made by people, some of whose wages are paid by our council tax. Oddly enough it might not be them as the regulations may not affect the Gallagher. I've quoted from this source before www.nwcfl.com/league_admin/club_resources/stadium-safety-in-the-national-league-system---updated.pdfI imagine that a well worded FOI request to the local authority (the club are not required by Law to answer a FOI) might be worthwhile.
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Post by sword65 on Apr 11, 2024 12:13:48 GMT
'People who work for the club' say the segregation barrier is actually a giant advertising display (per Raymondo). Does anybody actually believe such drivel ? Does the Gallagher exist in some parallel universe or is it based on planet Earth ? Do these Stones workers live in their own bizarre fantasy World ? It just gets more and more crazy. A giant advertising display? Do Genco really think that anybody outside the boardroom gives a tuppenny f**k about who they are, where they are from or what they f**king do,i certainly don't. All we want is their f**king money.
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Post by yorkshirestone on Apr 11, 2024 13:35:08 GMT
'People who work for the club' say the segregation barrier is actually a giant advertising display (per Raymondo). Does anybody actually believe such drivel ? Does the Gallagher exist in some parallel universe or is it based on planet Earth ? Do these Stones workers live in their own bizarre fantasy World ? It just gets more and more crazy. A giant advertising display? Do Genco really think that anybody outside the boardroom gives a tuppenny f**k about who they are, where they are from or what they f**king do,i certainly don't. All we want is their f**king money. If it's not a solid barrier - I don't recollect seeing it in real life - why can't it just move along when the number of away supporters is going to be less than a certain number? The Genco has a capacity, so if all away fans are to be accommodated there, then they can have either 20 or 40% of the available space and the barrier/vertical advertising can move accordingly. All it needs is for the away club to say how many supporters they expect to attend. Of course it could be made all ticket for away fans so there won't be a problem with overcrowding.
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Post by jdl on Apr 11, 2024 18:56:15 GMT
A giant advertising display? Do Genco really think that anybody outside the boardroom gives a tuppenny f**k about who they are, where they are from or what they f**king do,i certainly don't. All we want is their f**king money. If it's not a solid barrier - I don't recollect seeing it in real life - why can't it just move along when the number of away supporters is going to be less than a certain number? The Genco has a capacity, so if all away fans are to be accommodated there, then they can have either 20 or 40% of the available space and the barrier/vertical advertising can move accordingly. All it needs is for the away club to say how many supporters they expect to attend. Of course it could be made all ticket for away fans so there won't be a problem with overcrowding. It always used to. But this season it seems to have stayed in the same place. I suspect that it's a different barrier to the old one, and that makes it harder to move. Perhaps it had to be made more solid to be effective and that's meant that it is no longer portable? I suspect that the sponsorship 'issue' is simply that it's easier to put a logo on this - more permanent - barrier, than it was on the old flexible one. I've not stood on the Genco since the barrier was introduced, so I've not seen either up close, so the above may be complete bollocks.
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Post by Long gone on Apr 12, 2024 6:40:44 GMT
Moveable or not JDL it should be moveable as Yorkie suggests. We should only give as much of the Genco away that is needed for however many fans are coming. To give up 500 capacity in the Genco to 50 visiting fans is madness and limits the Stones faithful.
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Post by Dan on Apr 12, 2024 7:49:11 GMT
The space given to away supporters in the Genco is often absurd. What does the club do it ? Why do they carry on doing it ? So disrespectful to loyal Stones fans. Perhaps they should simply stamp our foreheads with 'MUG'.
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Post by pwoodstone on Apr 12, 2024 8:10:08 GMT
The space given to away supporters in the Genco is often absurd. What does the club do it ? Why do they carry on doing it ? So disrespectful to loyal Stones fans. Perhaps they should simply stamp our foreheads with 'MUG'. How is it disrespectful?
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Post by applesnstones on Apr 12, 2024 8:55:06 GMT
Moveable or not JDL it should be moveable as Yorkie suggests. We should only give as much of the Genco away that is needed for however many fans are coming. To give up 500 capacity in the Genco to 50 visiting fans is madness and limits the Stones faithful. I had a good look at the barrier during a pre season game and it was evidently much stronger that in the past, though the sheer number of bolts would suggest it's a permanent design. Our ownership is confronted with a dilemma. On one hand, they must strengthen the barrier and prioritise supporter safety. This is evident in the current construction, and held back the Yeovil fans who attempted to invade the home end. But further requests to stop missiles thrown over the top have arisen. On the other hand, they could opt for increased portability to facilitate moving the segregation line and getting more (or less) away fans in the ground, albeit at the expense of some durability. In terms of the current construction, repositioning for weekly adjustments is impractical. However, for significant events like a home match against Manchester United in the FA Cup, it's doable. At the end of the day, I agree with the club that the safety aspect is more important than courtesy. If they try to tick both boxes, there is almost bound to be either a significant cost factor, or a compromise in durability or portability.
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Post by Benny on Apr 12, 2024 9:05:57 GMT
From memory there is now a series of steel gates at each level going up. No idea if they can be opened or not. Remember the innocent days when Lincoln were promoted as champions and one of our fans crawled under the barrier and joined them celebrating? If, while looking from the pitch, this steel wall is on the right of the barrier, you could move the Genco hooligan sign to the right so the steel is on the left. But the club are now so intransigent, I doubt they’d even consider it.
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Post by Rob on Apr 12, 2024 14:08:56 GMT
The space given to away supporters in the Genco is often absurd. What does the club do it ? Why do they carry on doing it ? So disrespectful to loyal Stones fans. Perhaps they should simply stamp our foreheads with 'MUG'. How is it disrespectful? Giving away supporters excellent covered viewing of a match whilst its pissing down on our support on the riverside can be described as disrespectful. In fact I can think of several descriptions that would be stronger in sentiment.
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Post by jackster on Apr 12, 2024 14:10:31 GMT
The whole Genco segregation business is a total 'pigs ear'.
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