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Post by scooby on Jan 25, 2023 17:19:02 GMT
Mersin was poor, WOW understatement of the year 1st moving around like a constipated chicken 2nd through his legs 3rd flapping like a bat No confidence in ya last line of defence equals mufc. Still makes it easy for the prediction league, we will always let in goals with the clown in goal. Difference of opinion, yes, but unbelievable 😳 The usual well considered and measured statement from you. He may have been at fault for the third, but left exposed by the defence for the second. And not through lack of confidence but by the total lack of anything resembling a tackle from Jerome. And the usual, you are right!!! If you are so right ALL the time go down to the club and coach your love child!!! It's so boring and repetitive your constant blame everyone but mersin. Perhaps if he was as good as you are blinkered we would be top of the league. Median of three goals a game, enough said. Just waiting now for your logical and balanced response lmfao
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Post by jdl on Jan 25, 2023 17:21:53 GMT
It was a car crash. As many have said, as soon as you saw Christie starting, you knew it wasn't going to be a good night. But, even so, I couldn't believe what we saw for the first half hour or so - what the f**k happened?? So what now? We're down, no arguing with that. So our priority now must be to go down with as much pride as possible. Let's at least not be the first NL club to go down bottom two seasons running. We've got to watch another 8 home games, so let's at least put on a display worth watching. And then there's next season... The one advantage of being in this much shite, is that we have much longer to prepare for next season. No rush to get the next manager in place, and plenty of time to scout out new players. On second thoughts, ignore the above, I'm just trying to cheer myself up... Dover have already managed that... 20-21 and 21-22 although they did only go down on the second attempt. I appreciate that is pedantic, but the closest other occasion is Telford who finished way down the table consistently a good few years ago. 2011/12 5th bottom (stayed up) 2012/13 bottom 2014/15 2nd bottom AFC Telford haven't been promoted again since. So, despite winging it and not checking, it seems I was still correct!
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Post by jdl on Jan 25, 2023 18:39:07 GMT
Just seen the 'highlights' - didn't look any better than the live game...
George gives a much better post-match interview than Hak though.
Although it amounts to much the same - we lost but we don't really know why, and we go again...
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Post by daveu on Jan 25, 2023 18:50:01 GMT
The usual well considered and measured statement from you. He may have been at fault for the third, but left exposed by the defence for the second. And not through lack of confidence but by the total lack of anything resembling a tackle from Jerome. And the usual, you are right!!! If you are so right ALL the time go down to the club and coach your love child!!! It's so boring and repetitive your constant blame everyone but mersin. Perhaps if he was as good as you are blinkered we would be top of the league. Median of three goals a game, enough said. Just waiting now for your logical and balanced response lmfao I know you hate the man, although god knows what he's done to you. Surely you can express an opinion without always making it personal. I don't claim to always be right but at least I try to express my views politely without resorting to insults. The "love child" remarks are insulting and unnecessary and add nothing to the debate. For the record, I have never said Mersin was a better keeper, but your criticism of him is way over the top, almost as if you have some axe to grind with him as a person rather than as a player.
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Post by scooby on Jan 26, 2023 9:27:18 GMT
And the usual, you are right!!! If you are so right ALL the time go down to the club and coach your love child!!! It's so boring and repetitive your constant blame everyone but mersin. Perhaps if he was as good as you are blinkered we would be top of the league. Median of three goals a game, enough said. Just waiting now for your logical and balanced response lmfao I know you hate the man, although god knows what he's done to you. Surely you can express an opinion without always making it personal. I don't claim to always be right but at least I try to express my views politely without resorting to insults. The "love child" remarks are insulting and unnecessary and add nothing to the debate. For the record, I have never said Mersin was a better keeper, but your criticism of him is way over the top, almost as if you have some axe to grind with him as a person rather than as a player. Never said mersin was the better keeper Well slap my ass and call me Debbie
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Post by Bernie on Jan 26, 2023 10:03:54 GMT
It’s bonkers that the biggest controversy in an abysmal season is people bigging up an injured player and berating his replacement. It matters not one jot who the better keeper is when the man you worship is regularly unable to be selected. We are not going to be relegated because one goalkeeper was absent. We are going to be relegated because the whole team is not good enough.
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Post by jdl on Jan 26, 2023 11:05:45 GMT
It’s bonkers that the biggest controversy in an abysmal season is people bigging up an injured player and berating his replacement. It matters not one jot who the better keeper is when the man you worship is regularly unable to be selected. We are not going to be relegated because one goalkeeper was absent. We are going to be relegated because the whole team is not good enough. Much as I agree about the pointlessness of the GK 'debate', and personally I've had more than enough of this toxic Dave-baiting, I would argue with your last point. The team have shown that they ARE good enough - or at least they can be. They did well at the start of the season, and again, briefly, when Binnom-Willians came back and Greenidge arrived, and then again when George first took over. Given a chance they can play well enough to have easily kept us up. Our problem has been poor management. Poor selection of new players, ditto with loanees (and then a failure to make use of them), poor strategy and tactics, personality problems, and then, ultimately, the loss of the dressing room. It was obvious some time ago that Hak wasn't the right manager for us in the NL, but it took us too long to admit this and get someone new in. And now we are paying the price.
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Post by scooby on Jan 26, 2023 12:06:22 GMT
It’s bonkers that the biggest controversy in an abysmal season is people bigging up an injured player and berating his replacement. It matters not one jot who the better keeper is when the man you worship is regularly unable to be selected. We are not going to be relegated because one goalkeeper was absent. We are going to be relegated because the whole team is not good enough. Much as I agree about the pointlessness of the GK 'debate', and personally I've had more than enough of this toxic Dave-baiting, I would argue with your last point. The team have shown that they ARE good enough - or at least they can be. They did well at the start of the season, and again, briefly, when Binnom-Willians came back and Greenidge arrived, and then again when George first took over. Given a chance they can play well enough to have easily kept us up. Our problem has been poor management. Poor selection of new players, ditto with loanees (and then a failure to make use of them), poor strategy and tactics, personality problems, and then, ultimately, the loss of the dressing room. It was obvious some time ago that Hak wasn't the right manager for us in the NL, but it took us too long to admit this and get someone new in. And now we are paying the price. Totally agree, stop baiting dave. Who started that? Oh yeah mersin lol Not sure if the team are good enough but the rest is spot on. Hak should have gone months ago to give us a chance. His loaning signing of Mr pussy was the last straw and I also think, just my own opinion keep ya hair on, it was an up ya to supporters. I also personally think big George should get an 18mth contract so he has time. Confident relegation is on the horizon so let's give him a chance. And now I await the personal attacks from .......
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Post by Bernie on Jan 26, 2023 12:14:10 GMT
The cat botherer signing looked more like a last desperate throw of the dice. Agree about George. I would cut costs now and go part time at the end of the season. Even if that means a whole new squad. Let’s sign the best part time players, have fun again, and make a profit to tidy up the ground.
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Post by jdl on Jan 26, 2023 21:21:26 GMT
The cat botherer signing looked more like a last desperate throw of the dice. Agree about George. I would cut costs now and go part time at the end of the season. Even if that means a whole new squad. Let’s sign the best part time players, have fun again, and make a profit to tidy up the ground. I'm liking this, not because I agree with it, but just for the manic optimism!
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Post by pigbag on Jan 26, 2023 22:12:23 GMT
The cat botherer signing looked more like a last desperate throw of the dice. Agree about George. I would cut costs now and go part time at the end of the season. Even if that means a whole new squad. Let’s sign the best part time players, have fun again, and make a profit to tidy up the ground. Going part-time is not the answer. The theory is we could attract the best part time players. That may work for one season but if we managed promotion we would have to buy a new squad as part time players will not want the long journeys midweek that the National league demands. The other problem is training. You cannot mix part time and full timers unless you train in the evening which means we would lose revenue from the evening lettings. If we have no ambition part time is an option but if wer want to build a team to compete in the National league they need to be professional.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Jan 27, 2023 3:05:49 GMT
The cat botherer signing looked more like a last desperate throw of the dice. Agree about George. I would cut costs now and go part time at the end of the season. Even if that means a whole new squad. Let’s sign the best part time players, have fun again, and make a profit to tidy up the ground. Going part-time is not the answer. The theory is we could attract the best part time players. That may work for one season but if we managed promotion we would have to buy a new squad as part time players will not want the long journeys midweek that the National league demands. The other problem is training. You cannot mix part time and full timers unless you train in the evening which means we would lose revenue from the evening lettings. If we have no ambition part time is an option but if wer want to build a team to compete in the National league they need to be professional. Yet Wealdstone have been doing just that for 3 seasons at this level and having no problems whatsoever. They're challenging for the playoffs why our attempt at "full time" is about to lead us to our second relegation from this level. Trying to be "full time" when we can't do it properly clearly isn't working for us, so we need to do something different. As for needing to change the whole team if we get promoted, well we kept the whole National South team after being promoted and that didn't help us one bit, most of them should have been let go not retained.
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Post by sword65 on Jan 27, 2023 4:41:52 GMT
If you have a squad of 20 part time players and let's say 4 of them can't make long distant away games then you pick your team from the 16 that can. Simples!
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Post by Bernie on Jan 27, 2023 5:17:55 GMT
We should be replacing most of our players most seasons. Contracts at this level should be short in the majority of cases. There are more than enough players looking for clubs every season, and we can be the best paying part time club with by far the biggest crowds.
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Post by 61666 on Jan 27, 2023 8:56:34 GMT
The part time/full time debate merits further investigation, starting with a proper definition. Are we actually full time? My impression is that players train in the mornings. If so, what do they do in the afternoons? How many hours are they actually working for MUFC and how does this compare with other so called 'full time' clubs? The last question might give a better comparison between NL clubs generally, rather than simply the budget you have. At the end of the day, it is not how much money you have, but how you spend it. The Harry Wheeler disaster left me with a deep suspicion about full time professionals at the bottom end of the football pyramid - too many journeymen players, simply plying their trade, happy for a season here and there with little or no loyalty to their employers. I have also long felt that there are many part time players with far superior skills and attitudes to the above, but choose not to be pro because they are on alternate career paths, with workplace skills and/or intelligence to realise they need something beyond football and the age of 30-35. Mills and Flisher immediately spring to mind. Oliver and Terry are clearly trying to engineer ways to move the club forward, but have yet to attract the right investors to meet their (rightly) high standards. Unfortunately, those standards create a glass ceiling that makes it very difficult for us to punch through and the National League is a step too far at the moment - like last time, not much fun either. It is clear Jay Saunders worked an absolute miracle to keep us up last time round, but such things don't come round very often.
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