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Post by Sennockian69 on Dec 10, 2022 22:31:55 GMT
Very vulnerable on the left today - reluctant to defend - Alty forwards regularly ran along the goal line unchallenged and threatened the goal.
We were very poor defensively.
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Post by holysmokes66 on Dec 10, 2022 22:49:53 GMT
We tried to play football, we didn't just do hoofball, but ultimately, despite Alty not being the best, we weren't good enough to beat them. Disappointing, especially as it was their first away win of the season, but (like it or not), we just don't have enough quality. Booty and Deacon looked good enough, but though Barham ran his heart out, he was always going to be second best against their centre backs. Pattisson had his moments, but not enough of them. Sam Corne is nowhere near the player he was last season. Lawson, the latest loan, wearing 32 (which says it all), was ok, but not a game changer. Here I do wonder about Hak, because Galvin has not let the team down, so why was he warming the bench? Ultimately though, if you regularly ship three goals a game, the only way you are going is down. And it is not just the back four - we concede so many because we lose possession in midfield (attack even) too easily. At the start of the season, most of us were looking for the signing of a strong, defensive midfielder more than anything else. Sadly, we are still waiting. Been saying it all season, I completely agree. We can sign all the League 1 / league 2 19 year olds we want, but until we get someone with experience who can win, retain and distribute the ball with intent we'll always struggle. We look incredibly un-savvy.
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Post by holysmokes66 on Dec 10, 2022 22:51:50 GMT
Frustrating to watch the interviews with owners / management talking about our poor recruitment to only see us immediately sign another unproven youngster. Speaks volumes.
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Post by Better things to do in life on Dec 10, 2022 23:07:13 GMT
If we are going to back Hak for much longer we had better be confident he will bring us up from NLS again next season as that’s where we are heading.
This was a game we needed to get at least one point from. Comparisons to the Clown season are getting all too close. Something needs to change and fast.
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Post by 61666 on Dec 11, 2022 9:06:21 GMT
Post match, Hak says we were poor and apologies to fans. Hmmm... To me, it didn't feel like those dreadful games against Yeovil, Oldham, Halifax etc - perhaps because Alty came to play and certainly didn't try to park the bus. Therefore, on the day, we couldn't match them, which just happens in football. Would Sanford have stopped the goals? Not sure, as I was at the opposite end for all three, but it didn't seem so. Would Sandford's presence have made a difference? Who knows? Maybe and, much as I like Jerome, is he really the right on field captain, organising the back four, keeping midfield awake. No Odusanya yesterday and his work rate has been making a difference of late, but why drop Galvin, just to try out the newest loan? Either way, only the real die hards will be there next week, regardless of reduced entry - indeed many would not come if they were paid to do so, which is such a shame after the joys of last season.
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Post by daveu on Dec 11, 2022 9:23:25 GMT
But then the Town End persuade the ref it's handball and Booty scores the penalty. It definitely was a pen. The linesman gave it, ref wasn't interested. We lost it down our left and through the middle. Deacon was all over the place when they were attacking, leaving their wing back with acres of space and JBW two on one for most of the game. The new midfielder looked out of his depth and they cut through us like a knife through butter. Looked decent going forward but apart from the goals I don't really remember their keeper having a lot to do. Some wild shooting from distance and some poor final balls. Missed Dom in the middle, at least he can tackle, and I'd have pulled Deacon for Galvin at half time.
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Post by jdh80 on Dec 11, 2022 13:07:29 GMT
For what it's worth here's my view:
Thought their number 6 was MOTM, commanding in the air, comfortable on the floor composed and by far the best player on the pitch.
Thoroughly frustrated that we didn't test their keeper more, he looked very shaky and the only time we had a shot on him that didn't go in was a piss poor daisy cutter that only just got to him which he fumbled with in the first half. The spell where we had a few corners and they defended and blocked shots the keeper was all at sea, him and our defence would go hand in hand to be honest.
Their third goal came from OUR OWN throw in within the attacking third of the pitch which we somehow managed to throw through the legs of our own player, they broke and sliced through our defence cleaner than a top chef cutting up vegetables, whilst a number of our players were out of breath strolling back after being caught up the pitch.
Their fans will be looking at that game thinking how the hell was there only 1 goal in that at the end as it SHOULD have been a lot more to them and I'll be honest I'm mystified as well
There's the old saying that doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the sign of insanity, so see you all Tuesday at Dorking.
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Post by jdh80 on Dec 11, 2022 13:17:33 GMT
But then the Town End persuade the ref it's handball and Booty scores the penalty. It definitely was a pen. The linesman gave it, ref wasn't interested. We lost it down our left and through the middle. Deacon was all over the place when they were attacking, leaving their wing back with acres of space and JBW two on one for most of the game. The new midfielder looked out of his depth and they cut through us like a knife through butter. Looked decent going forward but apart from the goals I don't really remember their keeper having a lot to do. Some wild shooting from distance and some poor final balls. Missed Dom in the middle, at least he can tackle, and I'd have pulled Deacon for Galvin at half time. I was in the Town End and it was one of them where it bounced up and hit the defenders hand like most in the Town End I cried out "PENALTY" never in a million years did i expect it to be given, can completely understand their players frustration, the thing is no point arguing with the refs as once they have made a decision they are never going to turn around and say "oh as you have argued so well I am going to change my decision". We'd all be on here lambasting the ref if he gave that as a penalty against us. Booty might need to go and give some of these World Cup superstars tips on how to take penalties and return they could teach him how to pass to his teammates without blasting it at them as hard as possible and not getting nutmegged by a throw in.
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Post by Dan on Dec 11, 2022 13:58:38 GMT
Post match, Hak says we were poor and apologies to fans. Hmmm... To me, it didn't feel like those dreadful games against Yeovil, Oldham, Halifax etc - perhaps because Alty came to play and certainly didn't try to park the bus. Therefore, on the day, we couldn't match them, which just happens in football. Would Sanford have stopped the goals? Not sure, as I was at the opposite end for all three, but it didn't seem so. Would Sandford's presence have made a difference? Who knows? Maybe and, much as I like Jerome, is he really the right on field captain, organising the back four, keeping midfield awake. No Odusanya yesterday and his work rate has been making a difference of late, but why drop Galvin, just to try out the newest loan? Either way, only the real die hards will be there next week, regardless of reduced entry - indeed many would not come if they were paid to do so, which is such a shame after the joys of last season. Would Sandford gave made a difference ? Probably imo. He is so much better than Mersin, where he positions himself, confidence, awareness, presence, communication. So much more going for him. Not convinced by this new loan signing or why he was selected for this match. Whats wrong with Galvin ? Some players not working hard enough again. Lacking quality and form. Amazed that Hak has not been able to identify a really good holding midfielder. The team's been crying out for a leader to fill this role since the start of the season.
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Post by daveu on Dec 11, 2022 14:17:03 GMT
Post match, Hak says we were poor and apologies to fans. Hmmm... To me, it didn't feel like those dreadful games against Yeovil, Oldham, Halifax etc - perhaps because Alty came to play and certainly didn't try to park the bus. Therefore, on the day, we couldn't match them, which just happens in football. Would Sanford have stopped the goals? Not sure, as I was at the opposite end for all three, but it didn't seem so. Would Sandford's presence have made a difference? Who knows? Maybe and, much as I like Jerome, is he really the right on field captain, organising the back four, keeping midfield awake. No Odusanya yesterday and his work rate has been making a difference of late, but why drop Galvin, just to try out the newest loan? Either way, only the real die hards will be there next week, regardless of reduced entry - indeed many would not come if they were paid to do so, which is such a shame after the joys of last season. Would Sandford gave made a difference ? Probably imo. He is so much better than Mersin, where he positions himself, confidence, awareness, presence, communication. So much more going for him. Not convinced by this new loan signing or why he was selected for this match. Whats wrong with Galvin ? Some players not working hard enough again. Lacking quality and form. Amazed that Hak has not been able to identify a really good holding midfielder. The team's been crying out for a leader to fill this role since the start of the season. Difficult to see how Mersin was at fault for any of the goals, but I guess I should have expected at least one of his haters to come on here blaming him. Poor as he was last week he was bloody good this week and kept us in it.
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Post by jdh80 on Dec 11, 2022 15:15:31 GMT
Would Sandford gave made a difference ? Probably imo. He is so much better than Mersin, where he positions himself, confidence, awareness, presence, communication. So much more going for him. Not convinced by this new loan signing or why he was selected for this match. Whats wrong with Galvin ? Some players not working hard enough again. Lacking quality and form. Amazed that Hak has not been able to identify a really good holding midfielder. The team's been crying out for a leader to fill this role since the start of the season. Difficult to see how Mersin was at fault for any of the goals, but I guess I should have expected at least one of his haters to come on here blaming him. Poor as he was last week he was bloody good this week and kept us in it. Completely agree, hard to blame the keeper for any of the three goals, considering that our defence looked like it was the first time that they had played as defenders in their careers. Sandford is an upgrade on all the other 3 keepers we have at the club but we would still have conceded three with him in goal today in all honesty..
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Post by Sennockian69 on Dec 11, 2022 15:44:07 GMT
Most of our defenders yesterday were the best paid spectators in the ground.
They did a lot of spectating and very little defending.
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Post by jackster on Dec 11, 2022 15:47:56 GMT
Would Sandford gave made a difference ? Probably imo. He is so much better than Mersin, where he positions himself, confidence, awareness, presence, communication. So much more going for him. Not convinced by this new loan signing or why he was selected for this match. Whats wrong with Galvin ? Some players not working hard enough again. Lacking quality and form. Amazed that Hak has not been able to identify a really good holding midfielder. The team's been crying out for a leader to fill this role since the start of the season. Difficult to see how Mersin was at fault for any of the goals, but I guess I should have expected at least one of his haters to come on here blaming him. Poor as he was last week he was bloody good this week and kept us in it. Sorry daveu, but your 3 monkeys with Mersin doesn't wash
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Post by Harry on Dec 11, 2022 15:50:02 GMT
If playing Sandford means we still leak goals like a sieve we may as well, get rid, save his wages and give up.
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Post by Dickie on Dec 11, 2022 15:53:06 GMT
Don't upset him Harry. Anyhow if daveu thinks Mersin is a National League keeper, he's entitled to that opinion. To express a contrary opinion means you must be an idiot and a Mersin hater.
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