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Post by jackster on Oct 15, 2022 18:29:53 GMT
So embarrassing today.
The players don't care anymore.
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Post by Harry on Oct 15, 2022 18:31:12 GMT
NO PRIDE, NO QUALITY, NO EFFORT
THE PLAYERS HAVE THROWN THE TOWEL IN
PATHETIC !
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Post by Dickie on Oct 15, 2022 18:32:51 GMT
What a waste of time and money.
The team has totally lost their way.
Hak has lost his mojo.
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Post by pieman1982 on Oct 15, 2022 18:44:54 GMT
What do we have budget wise….? I believe bottom third! So if we go off player wages we “should” finish about 16th!
Is that likely at the moment..? NO
What did we do last time we got promoted, we used the old squad and started to patch the holes with the odd signing!
We need a manager who can use what we have as we clearly are never going to buy safety. Last year Hak won the league with a top 3 budget and we relied heavily on The Spanish wizard!
Without significant investment I believe this team and manager will be relegated. We are run by smart businessmen, we make as much profit in the National South with beer revenue and lots of home wins! They are never going to over stretch their means. So all things considered I don’t expect much to change in the playing squad or management. It’s going to be a long old year, unless I win the Euros and I will buy this league and the next one!!
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Post by deadly on Oct 15, 2022 19:06:59 GMT
We know we have a bottom 1/3 budget, maybe even bottom 1/4. It makes no difference Oliver and Terry have made it clear they expect Hak to outperform his budget. That clearly isn't happening. The team has lost its way, performances are shocking, individually and collectively. Hak doesn't seem to have any answers at the moment, we just seem to be getting worse and worse. Some players just seem to be a shadow of their former selves. Personally I've no idea what needs to be done. Do we say thanks and goodbye to Hak ? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO I'm guessing Hay will be downing one or two stiff drinks tonight
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Post by sword65 on Oct 15, 2022 19:10:56 GMT
What do we have budget wise….? I believe bottom third! So if we go off player wages we “should” finish about 16th! Is that likely at the moment..? NO What did we do last time we got promoted, we used the old squad and started to patch the holes with the odd signing! We need a manager who can use what we have as we clearly are never going to buy safety. Last year Hak won the league with a top 3 budget and we relied heavily on The Spanish wizard! Without significant investment I believe this team and manager will be relegated. We are run by smart businessmen, we make as much profit in the National South with beer revenue and lots of home wins! They are never going to over stretch their means. So all things considered I don’t expect much to change in the playing squad or management. It’s going to be a long old year, unless I win the Euros and I will buy this league and the next one!! We play like we did today we'll finish 20 pts adrift at the bottom.
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Post by jdl on Oct 15, 2022 19:18:35 GMT
Sorry but this is Jay all over again. Can't win but keep him in his job. Hak was never good enough for this league but you have to give him a chance. Hopefully the bosses have learnt from Jay and will not keep leaving hak out of his depth and mufc spiralling downwards. I'm all for stability but if any of us was a failure like this at work, the sack would soon follow. Just look at the goalkeeping mess!?!? Look at the summer recruitment!?! Always mufc but my god its frustrating 😫 😩 But Jay did keep us in this league 🤷🏼♂️ Twice. And never got the chance the third time.
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Post by Rob on Oct 15, 2022 19:31:30 GMT
But swordy has a point.
We are bottom of the form league and playing worse by the game. Carry on like this and we will be 10 points behind the 2nd to bottom club by New Years Day.
It has the feel of a long season already.
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Post by HartleyHare on Oct 15, 2022 19:34:55 GMT
We did play poorly today. Starting from the back, I think Mersin did ok but his kicking seriously needs a lot of work. Poor Joe looked well out of sorts, he’s usually so reliable but he looked nervous and made a lot of errors by his own usually very high standards. Mensah looks very promising....he’s only a young lad and still learning his trade but i think he shows huge promise. Galvin did fine, difficult to find fault with his game today. In midfield Booty and Corne weren’t their usual selves, Corne was hardly in the game and Booty tried hard but he struggled to get a real foothold in the game. Deacs got very little service, and got frustrated. Pattison didnt get in the game but on his day he can terrify defenders. Barham never looked remotely threatening, he worked hard as usual and had very little service but just never looked like scoring, hardly gave the oppo odefenders cause for concern all game. Alabi was being fouled every time the ball came his way but the ref gave him absolutely nothing.
One huge area for concern though is our captain, I’m afraid. He’s far too quiet - the whole team are very quiet, there is NO leader there at all. Gav is exposed for pace defensively now and he offers very little going forward, sad to say. I actually think RB is the area thats letting us down at the moment.
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Post by scooby on Oct 15, 2022 19:40:42 GMT
So keep hak because....... how many games did Jay go without a win? and your happy with that and the current bunch we have at the moment. All different opinions, who's right and who is wrong? All I will say is EVERY team wants to play us currently. As a sports scientist I would be interested to examine the ??players?? Micro chip after the game and examine it together with film footage. That probably says all we need to know. You have missed my point. Don’t think you should compare the 2 Jay kept us up for 2 seasons. And was sacked after just seven games when we had won 2 of them I think. I have never been fan of Hak but what he achieved last season was great. As I said earlier he just focuses on hard work but you need a lot more than that. OK let's keep hak and watch our team on the greasy pole, will that keep you happy?
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Post by pwoodstone on Oct 15, 2022 19:45:02 GMT
What do we have budget wise….? I believe bottom third! So if we go off player wages we “should” finish about 16th! Is that likely at the moment..? NO What did we do last time we got promoted, we used the old squad and started to patch the holes with the odd signing! We need a manager who can use what we have as we clearly are never going to buy safety. Last year Hak won the league with a top 3 budget and we relied heavily on The Spanish wizard! Without significant investment I believe this team and manager will be relegated. We are run by smart businessmen, we make as much profit in the National South with beer revenue and lots of home wins! They are never going to over stretch their means. So all things considered I don’t expect much to change in the playing squad or management. It’s going to be a long old year, unless I win the Euros and I will buy this league and the next one!! We play like we did today we'll finish 20 pts adrift at the bottom. We play like we did v Chesterfield, well probably survive
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Post by Nick on Oct 15, 2022 19:49:23 GMT
Hak was properly pissed off today with that display.
Fair enough, nobody is likely to disagree, not even daveu😂
Times are very difficult at the moment.
Best of luck Hak !
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Post by butlerisalegend on Oct 15, 2022 20:27:11 GMT
You have missed my point. Don’t think you should compare the 2 Jay kept us up for 2 seasons. And was sacked after just seven games when we had won 2 of them I think. I have never been fan of Hak but what he achieved last season was great. As I said earlier he just focuses on hard work but you need a lot more than that. OK let's keep hak and watch our team on the greasy pole, will that keep you happy? You haven’t got a scooby have you. Do I have to explain it again???
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Post by sword65 on Oct 15, 2022 20:28:51 GMT
Look on the bright side we win £3250, take out the cost of hiring that gold plated VIP executive coach they had there might be £500 left🤬
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Post by jdl on Oct 15, 2022 21:36:09 GMT
On the bright side, we only let in one - our average goals against per away game until today was 3...
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