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Post by Terry on Aug 17, 2022 11:29:12 GMT
Yep too much tinkering with the defence imo has not helped. It was not broken ! Only thing I wonder is whether Woods is good enough to fill the boots of Phillips. He needs to improve and quickly. Not moaning cause the squad and team spirit is great and so are the management and owners (for daveu's benefit), just needs some untinkering.
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Post by regentstone on Aug 17, 2022 11:53:46 GMT
Yep too much tinkering with the defence imo has not helped. It was not broken ! Only thing I wonder is whether Woods is good enough to fill the boots of Phillips. He needs to improve and quickly. Not moaning cause the squad and team spirit is great and so are the management and owners (for daveu's benefit), just needs some untinkering. Not a case of tinkering, more like enforced changes due the injury to JBW meaning Gavin Hoyte moving has switched to left back and George Fowler with moving to right back and Jack Cawley taking George's place in Central defence.
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Post by Dan on Aug 17, 2022 12:03:02 GMT
Hardly ! One player out injured and the whole defence is restructured. We lose our best centre back pairing, we switch a full back to the other side, we slot a cb into fb and drop the keeper who excelled through most of last season. We have only lost JBW and yet it feels like the whole defence has been resorted. From what I saw last night it is not for the better. I know trust in Hak and all that and I do, but it doesnt mean I can't have an opinion.
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Post by Harry on Aug 17, 2022 12:12:07 GMT
Yep too much tinkering with the defence imo has not helped. It was not broken ! Only thing I wonder is whether Woods is good enough to fill the boots of Phillips. He needs to improve and quickly. Not moaning cause the squad and team spirit is great and so are the management and owners (for daveu's benefit), just needs some untinkering. Not a case of tinkering, more like enforced changes due the injury to JBW meaning Gavin Hoyte moving has switched to left back and George Fowler with moving to right back and Jack Cawley taking George's place in Central defence. Tinkering ? Its a hell of a lot more than than, just for one player being injured. Defend the changes if you wish, but from where I stand it hasnt worked exactly to plan What next, carry on with the same ? I'd be very surprised.
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Post by 61666 on Aug 17, 2022 12:45:49 GMT
Seem to remember that Roarie Deacon filled in at full back a couple of times, but guess that ain't going to happen with Corne out. Wondered elsewhere about Pattisson too, but there is no doubting that losing JB-W has upset the whole balance of the defence. We just don't have a clear full back option with Brown out too. Quite how we deal with the next three games without Corne only adds to the problems. Mersin hasn't done much wrong, but would still have Hadler back because one assumes he knows the defenders better. Booty and Deacon have been at the heart of anything creative, while I'd rather see Odusanya in midfield than Woods, but guess both will play now? That leaves Barham up front and Pattisson, Alabi, Ghandor, Fawole and whoever else is left to fill the other spaces and on the bench. It all starts to feel like damage limitation at the moment, so hopefully team spirit will carry us through.
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Post by daveu on Aug 17, 2022 12:47:13 GMT
A few forum posters are quick to brand supporters as disloyal or Billy Big Boots if we ever question Hak's choices, given last season. Sod em, here I go. Was it really so necessary to dismantle our brilliant defence from last season ? Really unlucky to lose our 2 left backs but what has happened since isn't pretty. Breaking up our centre back partnership, slotting in players out of their favoured positions, trialing a loan signing for just 45 minutes and resting one of the best keepers outside the EFL. Too much experimentation, too much thinking, simple sonetimes is the best way forward. Given the injury situation what back four would you play. And blaming Mersin for last night is just ridiculous. He kept us in it at times.
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Post by 1018 on Aug 17, 2022 13:27:02 GMT
If the LB loan-signing isn't good enough then ship him back to Portsmouth & find a loanee from an FL club. Or 3 at the back with Hoyte & Deacon as wing-backs.
Mersin has done nothing wrong but I think that Hadler is the better keeper & was certainly first choice at the end of last season.
Hopefully Iandolo will be on the bench at Wrexham & get some minutes, let's see if he's good enough.
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Post by Terry on Aug 17, 2022 15:46:03 GMT
Nobody is blaming Mersin but any right minded supporter knows that Hadler is the better keeper. We need him back now, for his presence, positioning, distribution and kicking. As shot stoppers there's little to choose between the two, But not only does Tom have more confidence, equally important his presence gives the defence more confidence
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Post by Dickie on Aug 17, 2022 15:47:19 GMT
and gives the supporters more confidence.
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Post by deadly on Aug 17, 2022 15:50:05 GMT
For sure we need Tom Hadler back in goal, but there has been too much fannying around with the defence. Hard to believe we are missing just one player from the outstanding defence of last season.
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Post by Harry on Aug 17, 2022 15:52:20 GMT
Tom Hadler was more than good enough for 90% of our championship winning season. What's changed ?
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Post by Raymondo316 on Aug 17, 2022 15:53:58 GMT
If the LB loan-signing isn't good enough then ship him back to Portsmouth & find a loanee from an FL club. Or 3 at the back with Hoyte & Deacon as wing-backs. I've seen some people saying that Jerome will be out for 6-8 weeks, so yeah if we don't think Vincent is good enough send him back and get someone else in, because we can't continue with this current setup in defence for that amount of time. Hoyte & Fowler are constantly being caught out of position and look our weak link.
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Post by jackster on Aug 17, 2022 15:57:01 GMT
If the LB loan-signing isn't good enough then ship him back to Portsmouth & find a loanee from an FL club. Or 3 at the back with Hoyte & Deacon as wing-backs. Mersin has done nothing wrong but I think that Hadler is the better keeper & was certainly first choice at the end of last season. Hopefully Iandolo will be on the bench at Wrexham & get some minutes, let's see if he's good enough. It does seem that the loan signing has been written off after just 45 minutes of mediocrity. But we have messed around with the title winning defence for the sake of a left back injury. The experiments being trialed arn't working. Time to move onto plan C.
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Post by Nick on Aug 17, 2022 15:59:19 GMT
If the LB loan-signing isn't good enough then ship him back to Portsmouth & find a loanee from an FL club. Or 3 at the back with Hoyte & Deacon as wing-backs. I've seen some people saying that Jerome will be out for 6-8 weeks, so yeah if we don't think Vincent is good enough send him back and get someone else in, because we can't continue with this current setup in defence for that amount of time. Hoyte & Fowler are constantly being caught out of position and look our weak link. You've taken the words out of my keyboard Raymondo.
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Post by deadly on Aug 17, 2022 16:42:18 GMT
If the LB loan-signing isn't good enough then ship him back to Portsmouth & find a loanee from an FL club. Or 3 at the back with Hoyte & Deacon as wing-backs. Mersin has done nothing wrong but I think that Hadler is the better keeper & was certainly first choice at the end of last season. Hopefully Iandolo will be on the bench at Wrexham & get some minutes, let's see if he's good enough. "ship him back to Portsmouth" That's a good one !
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