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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 8:53:37 GMT
It's just one disaster after another with this government. One lie after another. Its daily news now And they will still win the next election by a huge majority because this country loves suffering.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 10:07:22 GMT
It's just one disaster after another with this government. One lie after another. Its daily news now And they will still win the next election by a huge majority because this country loves suffering. Seemingly so.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 13:05:52 GMT
Nothing to do with politics, but I didn't want to pervert yet another football thread...
With Peter Sutcliffe back in the news, I was reminded of an odd thing that happened at London Road shortly after he was (belatedly) arrested in 1981 (the first time we heard his real name). At the next home game (I can't remember who against), when the opposition players were read out, they included a Peter Sutcliffe! Possibly the unluckiest footballer in the world at that moment.
Imagine his life - just a young lad, enjoying his football, when, all of a sudden, he's got the most notorious name in the country.
Edit - just checked and there's a Wikipedia entry for a footballer called Peter Sutcliffe. He started off at Man U, but never played a first team game, then he played at Stockort County, Port Vale and Chester, before ending up at Bangor (then - briefly - an Alliance Premier (NL) side). Wiki says he was only at Bangor for one season - 82/83, but Bangor weren't in the AP then, having been relegated the previous season. So, I think my recollection is more accurate than Wikipedia!
(*Bangor Ciy were founder members of the AP, but were relegated in their second season. They returned after one season out, but again were relegated after just two seasons - and have never returned.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2021 7:51:00 GMT
Chaos at Sainsbury's yesterday afternoon with traffic queueing out onto the A20 for fuel and this after they had put in a system forcing all cars round the car park to spread it out. Bit of a bugger for anyone like me who just wanted groceries. Now the reasons for this are many and complex of course, starting with that pillock Jeremy Vine saying 'dont panic' in a panicky voice on his lunchtime show yesterday. Then there is the general stupidity of the general population and no doubt bog rolls will soon be in short supply again. However, suspect that beneath it all is a general lack of trust in the government's lack of ability to organise a piss up in a brewery. Your can be certain that a government statement that they are 'working really hard/night and day etc' to solve the problem is being issued as I type this. Really??? It seems to be the standard reply to every problem and is trolled out on a daily basis. If they really were interested in solving problems, then listening to big business, who vote for them mostly, when they flagged up all the post Brexit, Covid stuff months, years even, ago would have headed a decent chunk of it off before we got to our present situation. I can sort appreciate the post Brexit idea of having our own workforce doing jobs (and being better paid) that Europeans were doing before we split, but leaving it to osmosis seems pretty dumb to me. Plans, what plans? It's what happens when you have a country run by elite private school elite (Eton and Harrow mostly), who haven't a clue what it is like to live in the real world and are happy to let prices rise and cut benefits to those who can afford it least. Bastards the lot of them. There, that feels better, even if it will do sod all to solve anything.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2021 12:05:00 GMT
It's not Eton and Harrow so much, as just a bunch of bastards who simply don't care about the rest of us. They live in a hermetically sealed world of priviledge and power, untouched by what happens to the rest of us, and their policies and actions are almost entirely based on what works for them and their rich and powerful friends. It was ever thus, and probably always will be.
The only time they do anything approaching 'good' is when they either have to to stop the whole thing going down the plug hole and possibly taking them with it (eg Covid), or when they need enough ignorant, gullable, people to vote for them (or even, these days, to stand as MPs) to ensure the whole circus continues to keep the pig swill pouring into their troughs.
As for the Brexit Insanity - we had about 2m more jobs than we had native workers, and half of those left, so why it's a surprise to anyone that we're up the proverbial creek with no paddles, utterly baffles me. Did the Brexiteers really not understand what they were voting for?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2021 15:37:51 GMT
Who needs food and fuel when you've got your Sovereignty? Brexit forever! All the world needs now is a Las Palmas generated super tsunami to hit the USA.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 7:34:15 GMT
It's not Eton and Harrow so much, as just a bunch of bastards who simply don't care about the rest of us. They live in a hermetically sealed world of priviledge and power, untouched by what happens to the rest of us, and their policies and actions are almost entirely based on what works for them and their rich and powerful friends. It was ever thus, and probably always will be. The only time they do anything approaching 'good' is when they either have to to stop the whole thing going down the plug hole and possibly taking them with it (eg Covid), or when they need enough ignorant, gullable, people to vote for them (or even, these days, to stand as MPs) to ensure the whole circus continues to keep the pig swill pouring into their troughs. As for the Brexit Insanity - we had about 2m more jobs than we had native workers, and half of those left, so why it's a surprise to anyone that we're up the proverbial creek with no paddles, utterly baffles me. Did the Brexiteers really not understand what they were voting for? Yes. Totally agree
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2021 7:36:08 GMT
Apparently, we are now going to allow a load of people in to drive trucks. Surely that will 'reduce wages and take British jobs'?
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Post by gromley on Sept 26, 2021 19:53:21 GMT
Apparently, we are now going to allow a load of people in to drive trucks. Surely that will 'reduce wages and take British jobs'? It is becoming clearer that freedom of movement of labour did reduce wages and to some extent did 'take British jobs' - in the case of trucking for example. But we have an acute shortage of drivers, so the import of labour is temporary. (Seems to me that the number of drivers to be admitted and the time period are both well short of the mark, but hey.) The fact that we can once again train & test prospective HGV drivers will start to close the shortfall. Systemically though there is much more to be done to make HGV driving a popular career choice - it is not all about increasing the pay rate as this moving series of tweets demonstrates. "As a HGV driver myself ..."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 8:06:47 GMT
Working conditions for HGV drivers can be poor, especially in terms of facilities at delivery points, stop offs etc. Add in anti social hours and long trips away from home and not hard to see why the job will not suit many. There are alternatives of course, like moving long distance freight by rail, so road journeys are shorter, but that needs strategic planning and years to solve - though the infrastructure used to be there before railways were privatised. Ian Duncan Smith says it is nothing to do with Brexit (well, he would) and everything to do with Covid, which typifies the short sightedness and arrogance of his breed, while Angela Rayner was brave or foolhardy enough to voice what many already think. In jam making at least, it is scum that rises to the top after all. Some Tories are actually blaming the Road Transport people for creating the fuel crisis, conveniently forgetting they had been warning about it all for months. IF Covid hadn't happened, though suspect something like it was bound to anyway, it would be interesting to see what other excuses the government could find. As it is, all they are doing is papering over the cracks at the moment - a bit like early Covid and we know what happened there. Is shortening the HGV process really a good idea and are we creating a situation where insufficient training is going to cause more accidents? Will foreign drivers really want to come here, when there is a similar shortage across Europe? A couple of hundred army drivers and a few dozen military tankers ain't going to solve the problem either. A new winter of discontent is looming for many, I fear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 12:07:58 GMT
Pigeons are coming home to roost.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 12:33:19 GMT
Apparently, we are now going to allow a load of people in to drive trucks. Surely that will 'reduce wages and take British jobs'? It is becoming clearer that freedom of movement of labour did reduce wages and to some extent did 'take British jobs' - in the case of trucking for example. But we have an acute shortage of drivers, so the import of labour is temporary. (Seems to me that the number of drivers to be admitted and the time period are both well short of the mark, but hey.) The fact that we can once again train & test prospective HGV drivers will start to close the shortfall. Systemically though there is much more to be done to make HGV driving a popular career choice - it is not all about increasing the pay rate as this moving series of tweets demonstrates. "As a HGV driver myself ..." There have been continuing shortages in HGV for years, so HOW did foreign Labour reduce wages and take British jobs? www.google.com/amp/s/www.commercialfleet.org/amp/news/truck-news/2015/11/23/hgv-driver-shortage-at-crisis-point-as-critics-question-government-steps-to-address-issue
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 12:38:06 GMT
Working conditions for HGV drivers can be poor, especially in terms of facilities at delivery points, stop offs etc. Add in anti social hours and long trips away from home and not hard to see why the job will not suit many. There are alternatives of course, like moving long distance freight by rail, so road journeys are shorter, but that needs strategic planning and years to solve - though the infrastructure used to be there before railways were privatised. Ian Duncan Smith says it is nothing to do with Brexit (well, he would) and everything to do with Covid, which typifies the short sightedness and arrogance of his breed, while Angela Rayner was brave or foolhardy enough to voice what many already think. In jam making at least, it is scum that rises to the top after all. Some Tories are actually blaming the Road Transport people for creating the fuel crisis, conveniently forgetting they had been warning about it all for months. IF Covid hadn't happened, though suspect something like it was bound to anyway, it would be interesting to see what other excuses the government could find. As it is, all they are doing is papering over the cracks at the moment - a bit like early Covid and we know what happened there. Is shortening the HGV process really a good idea and are we creating a situation where insufficient training is going to cause more accidents? Will foreign drivers really want to come here, when there is a similar shortage across Europe? A couple of hundred army drivers and a few dozen military tankers ain't going to solve the problem either. A new winter of discontent is looming for many, I fear. People who voted Brexit cannot grasp that we have an ageing population. Imported labour supported our industries and unemployment wasn't running that high. So I am bemused with this constant commentary of foreign labour reducing wages. Let us also remember that the people who sold this lie also opposed the minimum wage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 16:07:28 GMT
Apparently, we are now going to allow a load of people in to drive trucks. Surely that will 'reduce wages and take British jobs'? It is becoming clearer that freedom of movement of labour did reduce wages and to some extent did 'take British jobs' - in the case of trucking for example. But we have an acute shortage of drivers, so the import of labour is temporary. (Seems to me that the number of drivers to be admitted and the time period are both well short of the mark, but hey.) The fact that we can once again train & test prospective HGV drivers will start to close the shortfall. Systemically though there is much more to be done to make HGV driving a popular career choice - it is not all about increasing the pay rate as this moving series of tweets demonstrates. "As a HGV driver myself ..." Absolutely unbelievable Jeff, Isthmian Premier league and regional divisions have been given permission to postpone midweek fixtures because of fuel shortages. Whatever next, call the games off for lack of pies and chips🤬🤬🤬
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 17:20:10 GMT
It is becoming clearer that freedom of movement of labour did reduce wages and to some extent did 'take British jobs' - in the case of trucking for example. But we have an acute shortage of drivers, so the import of labour is temporary. (Seems to me that the number of drivers to be admitted and the time period are both well short of the mark, but hey.) The fact that we can once again train & test prospective HGV drivers will start to close the shortfall. Systemically though there is much more to be done to make HGV driving a popular career choice - it is not all about increasing the pay rate as this moving series of tweets demonstrates. "As a HGV driver myself ..." Absolutely unbelievable Jeff, Isthmian Premier league and regional divisions have been given permission to postpone midweek fixtures because of fuel shortages. Whatever next, call the games off for lack of pies and chips🤬🤬🤬 Not true, PROJECT FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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