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Post by nws on Dec 2, 2022 18:40:11 GMT
A subtle change from politics then... Do ambulance workers need to strike when they spend much of each day queuing outside their hospitals? Actually, restless of cost, the Nation owes so many workers, who put in massive service during Covid. Can't afford though because of all the billions wasted on spurious PPE deals. It's flattering that others feel the need to imitate me elsewhere. Who am I to deny them their day in the sun? I'm being inclusive. Ha, ha.. I guess you'd feel the same about a taxi drivers strike or cross Channel lorry drivers strike😳 Agree re the reason. This mob of ne'er do Wells, in charge, need to go. It took a year to go back to obscene wages for bankers and wage restraint for everyone else
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Post by nws on Dec 4, 2022 22:27:28 GMT
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Post by yorkshirestone on Dec 5, 2022 9:48:30 GMT
A subtle change from politics then... Do ambulance workers need to strike when they spend much of each day queuing outside their hospitals? Actually, restless of cost, the Nation owes so many workers, who put in massive service during Covid. Can't afford though because of all the billions wasted on spurious PPE deals. I assume that's a tongue in cheek remark, but for the benefit of those who aren't familiar with emergency ambulances, they are effectively mobile life support units and are better equipped than most cubicles in A&E. Whilst the patient is waiting to be admitted to A&E, the paramedics are monitoring them and carrying out treatment as necessary. One only has to look back to films made as recently as the 1970s to see that in those days ambulances were basically a comfortable van that a couple of taxi drivers loaded patients onto. No disrespect meant to any retired ambulance staff who may be on here, but ambulances nowadays are very differently equipped and the people operating them are highly qualified. The problem is that A&E fills up with too many people who see it as an alternative to going to their GP when they can't get an appointment, and that beds are blocked by people who are fit to be discharged but are awaiting a place outside of hospital. There was a plan to channel funding to social care to remove the accommodation challenge to be paid for by that NI hike, but in a desperate bid to prop up their chances at the next GE, the Tories scrapped it. Almost like they want the NHS to fail.
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Post by nws on Dec 5, 2022 11:50:33 GMT
An excellent post, giving more insight into reality, although I'm pretty certain that 61666 was being sarcastic
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Post by nws on Dec 5, 2022 11:58:29 GMT
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Post by nws on Dec 5, 2022 23:12:49 GMT
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Post by nws on Dec 7, 2022 17:49:34 GMT
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Post by nws on Dec 9, 2022 0:19:34 GMT
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Post by nws on Dec 11, 2022 15:14:00 GMT
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Post by patm on Dec 12, 2022 9:52:46 GMT
A subtle change from politics then... Do ambulance workers need to strike when they spend much of each day queuing outside their hospitals? Actually, restless of cost, the Nation owes so many workers, who put in massive service during Covid. Can't afford though because of all the billions wasted on spurious PPE deals. I assume that's a tongue in cheek remark, but for the benefit of those who aren't familiar with emergency ambulances, they are effectively mobile life support units and are better equipped than most cubicles in A&E. Whilst the patient is waiting to be admitted to A&E, the paramedics are monitoring them and carrying out treatment as necessary. One only has to look back to films made as recently as the 1970s to see that in those days ambulances were basically a comfortable van that a couple of taxi drivers loaded patients onto. No disrespect meant to any retired ambulance staff who may be on here, but ambulances nowadays are very differently equipped and the people operating them are highly qualified. The problem is that A&E fills up with too many people who see it as an alternative to going to their GP when they can't get an appointment, and that beds are blocked by people who are fit to be discharged but are awaiting a place outside of hospital. There was a plan to channel funding to social care to remove the accommodation challenge to be paid for by that NI hike, but in a desperate bid to prop up their chances at the next GE, the Tories scrapped it. Almost like they want the NHS to fail.
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Post by patm on Dec 12, 2022 9:53:34 GMT
On the Emergency services theme- I retired this year having reached 66. I was in the same trade all my life, only having 2 employers- That trade was Lifts/Elevators. There will be a few on here that know the score, but you start off as an apprentice installing them and then end up (if still on the tools)- a technician or trouble shooter. I was the latter in the early 80’s and since then is a blur. On Night calls- a lucrative position- there were 4 (2 pairs) covering the whole of London on a rota system- 1 week on, 5 weeks on days. £16k a year- nearly as much as working in a top job in an office in the early 80’s. Most of the call-backs was in old people’s homes and hospitals (offices are generally shut of an evening- only security staff- so no one knew where the ‘motor-room keys were’) to let us up on the roof etc. Social housing- tower-blocks, but you were in and out of them- fkn dangerous places of a night. But the older hospitals had the old-style bed layout- 20/30 in a ward. The Old peoples homes- loads of them, even ‘doss-houses’ were filled with all sorts, free to roam around (had to be damn careful in the asylums) – but you get an insight to what’s about. Most of these facilities had gone by the 90’s and we were planning hospitals like the Pembury and Maidstone layout- few beds, more rooms and lower numbers of bed-passenger lifts. So, were people simply not getting ill anymore? The asylums were shut- the Maudsley springs to mind and the doss-houses redeveloped into flats-or hotel- Railton house at the Elephant for example and the big one in New Cross/Deptford-don’t remember the name, one of my brothers job as, as he was in the trade also. And all this in 50 years.
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Post by nws on Dec 12, 2022 12:29:27 GMT
On the Emergency services theme- I retired this year having reached 66. I was in the same trade all my life, only having 2 employers- That trade was Lifts/Elevators. There will be a few on here that know the score, but you start off as an apprentice installing them and then end up (if still on the tools)- a technician or trouble shooter. I was the latter in the early 80’s and since then is a blur. On Night calls- a lucrative position- there were 4 (2 pairs) covering the whole of London on a rota system- 1 week on, 5 weeks on days. £16k a year- nearly as much as working in a top job in an office in the early 80’s. Most of the call-backs was in old people’s homes and hospitals (offices are generally shut of an evening- only security staff- so no one knew where the ‘motor-room keys were’) to let us up on the roof etc. Social housing- tower-blocks, but you were in and out of them- fkn dangerous places of a night. But the older hospitals had the old-style bed layout- 20/30 in a ward. The Old peoples homes- loads of them, even ‘doss-houses’ were filled with all sorts, free to roam around (had to be damn careful in the asylums) – but you get an insight to what’s about. Most of these facilities had gone by the 90’s and we were planning hospitals like the Pembury and Maidstone layout- few beds, more rooms and lower numbers of bed-passenger lifts. So, were people simply not getting ill anymore? The asylums were shut- the Maudsley springs to mind and the doss-houses redeveloped into flats-or hotel- Railton house at the Elephant for example and the big one in New Cross/Deptford-don’t remember the name, one of my brothers job as, as he was in the trade also. And all this in 50 years. Cheers Pat. Hope you are well and enjoying retirement. "The Old peoples homes- loads of them, even ‘doss-houses’ were filled with all sorts, free to roam around (had to be damn careful in the asylums) – but you get an insight to what’s about." Do you mean vulnerable people were left without anyone to help them through the night? If so, Wow!
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Post by Rob on Dec 12, 2022 19:47:56 GMT
A subtle change from politics then... Do ambulance workers need to strike when they spend much of each day queuing outside their hospitals? Actually, restless of cost, the Nation owes so many workers, who put in massive service during Covid. Can't afford though because of all the billions wasted on spurious PPE deals. What do we owe nurses, doctors and paramedics ? Thank goodness we have a Health Secretary like Steve Barclay whose talking tough and showing everybody whose in charge. Sooner we get rid of those pesky NHS workers, the better.
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Post by patm on Dec 12, 2022 22:30:53 GMT
Cheers Pat. Hope you are well and enjoying retirement. "The Old peoples homes- loads of them, even ‘doss-houses’ were filled with all sorts, free to roam around (had to be damn careful in the asylums) – but you get an insight to what’s about." Do you mean vulnerable people were left without anyone to help them through the night? If so, Wow! Yes, people were allowed to walk around as they pleased. We had to be careful accessing the car top etc to make lock adjustments or do maintenance routines. It wasn’t a problem but you just knew not to engage , in case it didn’t end well for a number of reasons! I regularly worked in a Jewish residential home in Golders Green- a few times I was asked by residents to fix toilets or bells that didn’t work etc. I just ignored it, reset the lift and left pronto. One time I had to do some welding- that was worrying as we had no protection from the arc other that the head shield I wore. This would have been 70’s early 80’s.
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Post by nws on Dec 12, 2022 22:47:01 GMT
Cheers Pat. Hope you are well and enjoying retirement. "The Old peoples homes- loads of them, even ‘doss-houses’ were filled with all sorts, free to roam around (had to be damn careful in the asylums) – but you get an insight to what’s about." Do you mean vulnerable people were left without anyone to help them through the night? If so, Wow! Yes, people were allowed to walk around as they pleased. We had to be careful accessing the car top etc to make lock adjustments or do maintenance routines. It wasn’t a problem but you just knew not to engage , in case it didn’t end well for a number of reasons! I regularly worked in a Jewish residential home in Golders Green- a few times I was asked by residents to fix toilets or bells that didn’t work etc. I just ignored it, reset the lift and left pronto. One time I had to do some welding- that was worrying as we had no protection from the arc other that the head shield I wore. This would have been 70’s early 80’s. Jeez... We led very different lives in the 80s...
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