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Post by Nick on Oct 21, 2020 12:54:01 GMT
Most National League club representatives live in a bubble of hypocrisy, double dealing and greed. Nothing they do surprises me any more
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Post by yorkshirestone on Oct 21, 2020 12:55:45 GMT
Apparently the 5 being reported on the BBC website are Maidstone, Dulwich Hamlet, York, Chester and Hereford. Four ex-FL clubs plus Dulwich who did have really decent crowds last season. Looks a very amateurish approach to dishing out the funding.
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Post by deadly on Oct 21, 2020 12:55:57 GMT
Money talks. That's where the lottery bail out has gone
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Post by porkystone on Oct 21, 2020 14:23:28 GMT
SHAFTED ! To see how much we've been shafted, check out this blokes twitter thread ( @pompeydunc ) and open the excel file referenced tiny.cc/subsidyNLGreat piece of work Sir & cc'd to Oliver Ash.
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Post by 61666 on Oct 21, 2020 15:30:35 GMT
Don't understand the figures in the column 'total corrected subsidy'. As for the rest, seems we have been given £36k per month, along with Dulwich, while everyone else in our league gets £30k. Not sure how that divides things up fairly? However, £36k for in effect two home games works out at £18k per game. Add on income from Stonestv and no doubt somebody will be able to tell us how that compares with what we might expect from a home crowd of 1776. Please ...
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Post by daveu on Oct 21, 2020 16:14:12 GMT
By a quick and dirty calculation Boreham Wood will be receiving 66% more than their average gate receipts.
85k / 800 fans is just over £100 per fan. Allowing (generously) for 3 home games a month at £20 per fan that equates to £40 extra against an expected total of £60.
Anyway you look at it, profiteering from government/lottery handouts sounds like fraud to me.
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Post by Rob on Oct 21, 2020 16:33:01 GMT
It's just totally bonkers
Makes you want to weep
This lottery funding was intended to help off-set the losses incurred by not having spectators at matches
It simply doesn't do it and doesn't even pretend to do it (see porkystone link)
Why the hell should Boring Wood and other similar clubs get a financial reward for being poorly supported ?
Just totally shameful of the National League - What a pig trough !
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 21, 2020 17:11:13 GMT
He wasn't wrong when he said Boreham Wood would benefit from this
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Post by jdl on Oct 21, 2020 17:28:52 GMT
SHAFTED ! To see how much we've been shafted, check out this blokes twitter thread ( @pompeydunc ) and open the excel file referenced tiny.cc/subsidyNLGreat piece of work Sir & cc'd to Oliver Ash. What does he mean by 'Total Corrected Subsidy'?
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Post by jdl on Oct 21, 2020 17:43:50 GMT
Don't understand the figures in the column 'total corrected subsidy'. As for the rest, seems we have been given £36k per month, along with Dulwich, while everyone else in our league gets £30k. Not sure how that divides things up fairly? However, £36k for in effect two home games works out at £18k per game. Add on income from Stonestv and no doubt somebody will be able to tell us how that compares with what we might expect from a home crowd of 1776. Please ... At a (very) rough guess our income per game - with last season's av attendance - must be around the £30k mark, possibly more. So, we are short by around £16k/game (£36k a month, 8 month season, 20 home games = £14.4k/game). Taking into account ST income (guessed at £110k - £5.5k/game) and STV's income (excluding ST holders, I would guess at around £4.5k/game), balances things up a bit, but still leaves us short by £6k a home game (£120k for the season). NB: these are all guesses, based on incomplete information, and a lot of assumptions, so could be wide of the mark. But I wouldn't be surprised if the general conclusion (that the subsidy will fall substanially short of our losses) turns out to be correct.
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Post by jdl on Oct 21, 2020 17:56:58 GMT
He weren't wrong when he said Boreham Wood would benefit from this You lick my arse, I'll lick yours...
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Post by sword65 on Oct 21, 2020 18:35:37 GMT
Don't understand the figures in the column 'total corrected subsidy'. As for the rest, seems we have been given £36k per month, along with Dulwich, while everyone else in our league gets £30k. Not sure how that divides things up fairly? However, £36k for in effect two home games works out at £18k per game. Add on income from Stonestv and no doubt somebody will be able to tell us how that compares with what we might expect from a home crowd of 1776. Please ... At a (very) rough guess our income per game - with last season's av attendance - must be around the £30k mark, possibly more. So, we are short by around £16k/game (£36k a month, 8 month season, 20 home games = £14.4k/game). Taking into account ST income (guessed at £110k - £5.5k/game) and STV's income (excluding ST holders, I would guess at around £4.5k/game), balances things up a bit, but still leaves us short by £6k a home game (£120k for the season). NB: these are all guesses, based on incomplete information, and a lot of assumptions, so could be wide of the mark. But I wouldn't be surprised if the general conclusion (that the subsidy will fall substanially short of our losses) turns out to be correct.Add all that to the loss of food and drink revenue and it paints a really tough picture which will hurt us very badly. The lesser supported teams in our league probably benefit from the amounts given so I would be surprised if we get any support from them in appealing. Maidstone and Dulwich and possibly H & W have been shafted big time.
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Post by swampy on Oct 21, 2020 19:14:59 GMT
At a (very) rough guess our income per game - with last season's av attendance - must be around the £30k mark, possibly more. So, we are short by around £16k/game (£36k a month, 8 month season, 20 home games = £14.4k/game). Taking into account ST income (guessed at £110k - £5.5k/game) and STV's income (excluding ST holders, I would guess at around £4.5k/game), balances things up a bit, but still leaves us short by £6k a home game (£120k for the season). NB: these are all guesses, based on incomplete information, and a lot of assumptions, so could be wide of the mark. But I wouldn't be surprised if the general conclusion (that the subsidy will fall substanially short of our losses) turns out to be correct.Add all that to the loss of food and drink revenue and it paints a really tough picture which will hurt us very badly. The lesser supported teams in our league probably benefit from the amounts given so I would be surprised if we get any support from them in appealing. Maidstone and Dulwich and possibly H & W have been shafted big time. Within an hour of the announcement this morning Concord Rangers were refunding season tickets. To them it must seam like they have quite literally won the lottery.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 21, 2020 20:03:08 GMT
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Post by deadly on Oct 21, 2020 21:09:09 GMT
Simply obscene !
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