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Post by pwoodstone on Oct 15, 2020 7:00:33 GMT
Is “letting fans back in” really the right thing to do?
I’d like to think fans could be trusted to social distance but I don’t trust them.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Oct 15, 2020 7:23:55 GMT
Watford Gap is the traditional spot where the north begins isn't it? Unless you're a Dover fan in which case Ashford. Boxley.
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Post by 61666 on Oct 15, 2020 7:26:14 GMT
The petition has achieved its objective in getting a debate, but things have spiralled depressingly downwards, so no chance of getting a positive outcome when the climate is only about closing things down at the moment. The fact that the government doesn't have a medium term plan, let alone a long term one, doesn't help either. It would be helpful for football fans to know what criteria might be required for attending games again, just the general public have no idea why pubs have to shut at 10pm, when the government can't provide any clear evidence for it. Yes, reducing social contact is probably the aim, but there is no sign it is working. If people know that certain targets have to be achieved for certain rewards, then there is something they can work towards. The usual media feeding frenzy doesn't help either - watching the 10pm news is not exactly a recipe for a good night's sleep at the moment. Imposing a French style curfew is an interesting concept. Would give the currently unemployed stewards at the Gallagher something to salivate over!
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Post by porkystone on Oct 15, 2020 8:07:13 GMT
The petition, having achieved over 196,000 signatures is scheduled for debate by parliament on 9th November. You can watch the debate on YouTube: /photo/1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 8:26:47 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54545053 Premier League money for Leagues 1 and 2... there was some nominal amount coming the way of the 3 National league sI think, but a real feeling we're in a dead zone, no fans allowed, little in the way of outside help.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 15, 2020 9:01:30 GMT
Is “letting fans back in” really the right thing to do? I’d like to think fans could be trusted to social distance but I don’t trust them. From some of the pictures and video I've seen of games at step 3-6 there's been very little social distancing enforced and that's with crowds of just 150 to 600. So letting more people into stadiums why the virus is spiralling out of control doesn't exactly seem the greatest idea right now. Heck the North West Counties League are already considering suspending the season www.bbc.com/sport/amp/football/54536961
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Post by sword65 on Oct 15, 2020 9:09:03 GMT
The petition has achieved its objective in getting a debate, but things have spiralled depressingly downwards, so no chance of getting a positive outcome when the climate is only about closing things down at the moment. The fact that the government doesn't have a medium term plan, let alone a long term one, doesn't help either. It would be helpful for football fans to know what criteria might be required for attending games again, just the general public have no idea why pubs have to shut at 10pm, when the government can't provide any clear evidence for it. Yes, reducing social contact is probably the aim, but there is no sign it is working. If people know that certain targets have to be achieved for certain rewards, then there is something they can work towards. The usual media feeding frenzy doesn't help either - watching the 10pm news is not exactly a recipe for a good night's sleep at the moment. Imposing a French style curfew is an interesting concept. Would give the currently unemployed stewards at the Gallagher something to salivate over! Surely a simple solution to the 22.00 closing time is to allow those in the pub at 21.30 to remain until they wish to go home or we reach normal closing time but allow absolutely no-one to enter a pub after 21.30. The pubs I drink in are very strict on social distancing and if a person enters the pub,regardless of the time,and there are no vacant tables then they are apologised to then asked politely to leave.
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Post by Tstone on Oct 15, 2020 9:53:25 GMT
Am I remembering correctly that the first 2 spikes of coronavirus in the UK back in March were due to the Cheltenham Festival and Liverpool hosting Atletico Madrid?
If so a) seems like the scousers have very short memories and b) points to a very good reason not to allow mass gatherings in to (sporting) events.
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Post by sword65 on Oct 15, 2020 11:28:40 GMT
Am I remembering correctly that the first 2 spikes of coronavirus in the UK back in March were due to the Cheltenham Festival and Liverpool hosting Atletico Madrid? If so a) seems like the scousers have very short memories and b) points to a very good reason not to allow mass gatherings in to (sporting) events. As much as I would like fans to be allowed in,its not going to happen this year, January at the earliest but would not he surprised if it's the whole season. This begs the question will the government still bail us out after the initial £10 million has gone in 3 months time?
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Post by 61666 on Oct 16, 2020 7:29:48 GMT
By tinkering and fudging, the government has not only lost the plot, it is losing the confidence of its own supporters and MPs. Regardless of what the evidence might be, can see them being forced along the two week 'circuit breaker' route, including schools too, simply to reset the whole country regardless of how many cases there are. They've also got to find a way of communicating better. The simple public information films are one thing (though like any advert, who pays much attention after the first few times?), but if they want people to comply then they have to get 'local' and highlight what the current case/death/hospital rates are. The information is on the government website, right down to local level so you can compare cases between Medway, Maidstone, Tonbridge etc. Currently, this shows numbers are falling round here, but whether that is due to a reporting lag, or actual cases, it doesn't say. In this information rich age, we should be doing better because there is no point in doing 300,000 tests a day if you don't use the information properly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 8:17:37 GMT
Am I remembering correctly that the first 2 spikes of coronavirus in the UK back in March were due to the Cheltenham Festival and Liverpool hosting Atletico Madrid? No.
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Post by porkystone on Oct 16, 2020 8:33:30 GMT
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Post by 61666 on Oct 16, 2020 10:05:44 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54535938This is exactly the sort of stuff that should be widely shared. People can easily see where the problems are are if sanctions are working. While of UK, not just Scotland doing this, please.
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Post by porkystone on Oct 16, 2020 17:11:49 GMT
First instalment of Government emergency funding to be received next year:
' Ollie Bayliss @ollie_Bayliss · 9m I understand the National League has assured clubs they will receive their first instalment of funding next week.
Clubs will also be given details next week of how the money will be allocated between the teams. '
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 20:58:04 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54535938This is exactly the sort of stuff that should be widely shared. People can easily see where the problems are are if sanctions are working. While of UK, not just Scotland doing this, please. Nope,didn't understand a word of that.
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