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Post by jdl on Sept 9, 2020 11:51:30 GMT
Sorry to put this here, but I need people to actually read it!
My lad has just started at MGS and is playing both rugby and football - so needs boots for both.
In my day (Bronze Age), rugby and football boots were quite different, and you got bollocked for playing in the wrong ones, but the advice these days seems to be that it doesn't matter much, especially at his age.
We've ordered several pair of boots, but my wife (who ordered them) is unsure which is which! I thought I'd be able to tell, but I am totally confused.
My original ideas were that rugby boots are higher round the ankles to give more support, higher heels to give more grip in scrums, etc, and more studs to give more grip in general. (In my day, I'm sure they had much longer laces as well.) But the boots we have are a right mixture - for instance, the ones with the raised heels have very low-cut backs, and much longer laces - football or rugby?? As for studs, there seems to be a tremedous variety - from plastic (4 straight or triangular at the back and 6 round at the front), to all round metal, unscrewable, ones (4 at the front and just 2 at the back - and vicious looking too, I wouldn't want them scraped down my leg!).
Does he really need different boots, and, if so, what are the differences?
Cheers.
(And, yes, I have looked online, but it wasn't much help.)
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Post by sword65 on Sept 9, 2020 13:09:34 GMT
Sorry to put this here, but I need people to actually read it! My lad has just started at MGS and is playing both rugby and football - so needs boots for both. In my day (Bronze Age), rugby and football boots were quite different, and you got bollocked for playing in the wrong ones, but the advice these days seems to be that it doesn't matter much, especially at his age. We've ordered several pair of boots, but my wife (who ordered them) is unsure which is which! I thought I'd be able to tell, but I am totally confused. My original ideas were that rugby boots are higher round the ankles to give more support, higher heels to give more grip in scrums, etc, and more studs to give more grip in general. (In my day, I'm sure they had much longer laces as well.) But the boots we have are a right mixture - for instance, the ones with the raised heels have very low-cut backs, and much longer laces - football or rugby?? As for studs, there seems to be a tremedous variety - from plastic (4 straight or triangular at the back and 6 round at the front), to all round metal, unscrewable, ones (4 at the front and just 2 at the back - and vicious looking too, I wouldn't want them scraped down my leg!). Does he really need different boots, and, if so, what are the differences? Cheers. (And, yes, I have looked online, but it wasn't much help.) I too am confused,why has your boy just started at Maidstone Girls School? And playing rugby in high heels was not recommended at my school, an ankle breaker for sure. If it helps I used to wear steel toe caps for Holmesdale school rugby team come to think of it I had steel toe caps and a knuckle duster in my role as chess captain. |
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Post by headstone on Sept 9, 2020 15:03:13 GMT
I was a founder member of the Soccer Society at MGS (why couldn't we think of a better name?), which took us to a couple of England matches at Wembley (England 2 - 2 Russia and England 3 - 1 Sweden), and also allowed me to kick the ankle of my form master. I've no idea if it survived our leaving in 1968, or the change of headmaster, but it appears from JDL's post that the school have indeed embraced the beautiful game.
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Post by distantfan on Sept 9, 2020 15:20:24 GMT
From being forced to play rugby at MGS many moons ago I think rugby boots have higher toes as there's no need to chip the ball. Rugby boots have longer studs so you can rip the shit out of the grass to stop football being played on the pitch and also so you can stand up in the scrums and mauls.
In those days rugby at MGS felt like class war. The ex-private schoolboys knew the rules and got away with murder. We retaliated, outside the laws of the game apparently, and would get sent off.
If only it had been Maidstone Girls School I'd have taken more interest in the scrums.
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Post by haggis on Sept 9, 2020 15:30:27 GMT
Sorry to put this here, but I need people to actually read it! My lad has just started at MGS and is playing both rugby and football - so needs boots for both. In my day (Bronze Age), rugby and football boots were quite different, and you got bollocked for playing in the wrong ones, but the advice these days seems to be that it doesn't matter much, especially at his age. We've ordered several pair of boots, but my wife (who ordered them) is unsure which is which! I thought I'd be able to tell, but I am totally confused. My original ideas were that rugby boots are higher round the ankles to give more support, higher heels to give more grip in scrums, etc, and more studs to give more grip in general. (In my day, I'm sure they had much longer laces as well.) But the boots we have are a right mixture - for instance, the ones with the raised heels have very low-cut backs, and much longer laces - football or rugby?? As for studs, there seems to be a tremedous variety - from plastic (4 straight or triangular at the back and 6 round at the front), to all round metal, unscrewable, ones (4 at the front and just 2 at the back - and vicious looking too, I wouldn't want them scraped down my leg!). Does he really need different boots, and, if so, what are the differences? Cheers. (And, yes, I have looked online, but it wasn't much help.) There are differences, I’ve found this online, I hope it helps you. footballbootsguru.com/2016/03/21/can-use-football-boots-rugby/ |
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Post by jdl on Sept 10, 2020 0:21:17 GMT
Sorry to put this here, but I need people to actually read it! My lad has just started at MGS and is playing both rugby and football - so needs boots for both. In my day (Bronze Age), rugby and football boots were quite different, and you got bollocked for playing in the wrong ones, but the advice these days seems to be that it doesn't matter much, especially at his age. We've ordered several pair of boots, but my wife (who ordered them) is unsure which is which! I thought I'd be able to tell, but I am totally confused. My original ideas were that rugby boots are higher round the ankles to give more support, higher heels to give more grip in scrums, etc, and more studs to give more grip in general. (In my day, I'm sure they had much longer laces as well.) But the boots we have are a right mixture - for instance, the ones with the raised heels have very low-cut backs, and much longer laces - football or rugby?? As for studs, there seems to be a tremedous variety - from plastic (4 straight or triangular at the back and 6 round at the front), to all round metal, unscrewable, ones (4 at the front and just 2 at the back - and vicious looking too, I wouldn't want them scraped down my leg!). Does he really need different boots, and, if so, what are the differences? Cheers. (And, yes, I have looked online, but it wasn't much help.) There are differences, I’ve found this online, I hope it helps you. footballbootsguru.com/2016/03/21/can-use-football-boots-rugby/Excellent! Many thanks. |
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Post by jdl on Sept 10, 2020 0:24:09 GMT
Sorry to put this here, but I need people to actually read it! My lad has just started at MGS and is playing both rugby and football - so needs boots for both. In my day (Bronze Age), rugby and football boots were quite different, and you got bollocked for playing in the wrong ones, but the advice these days seems to be that it doesn't matter much, especially at his age. We've ordered several pair of boots, but my wife (who ordered them) is unsure which is which! I thought I'd be able to tell, but I am totally confused. My original ideas were that rugby boots are higher round the ankles to give more support, higher heels to give more grip in scrums, etc, and more studs to give more grip in general. (In my day, I'm sure they had much longer laces as well.) But the boots we have are a right mixture - for instance, the ones with the raised heels have very low-cut backs, and much longer laces - football or rugby?? As for studs, there seems to be a tremedous variety - from plastic (4 straight or triangular at the back and 6 round at the front), to all round metal, unscrewable, ones (4 at the front and just 2 at the back - and vicious looking too, I wouldn't want them scraped down my leg!). Does he really need different boots, and, if so, what are the differences? Cheers. (And, yes, I have looked online, but it wasn't much help.) I too am confused,why has your boy just started at Maidstone Girls School? And playing rugby in high heels was not recommended at my school, an ankle breaker for sure. If it helps I used to wear steel toe caps for Holmesdale school rugby team come to think of it I had steel toe caps and a knuckle duster in my role as chess captain. You're missing quite an important second 'G'... But, anyway, there's no way any son of mine would wear BROWN! |
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Post by jdl on Sept 10, 2020 0:27:15 GMT
I was a founder member of the Soccer Society at MGS (why couldn't we think of a better name?), which took us to a couple of England matches at Wembley (England 2 - 2 Russia and England 3 - 1 Sweden), and also allowed me to kick the ankle of my form master. I've no idea if it survived our leaving in 1968, or the change of headmaster, but it appears from JDL's post that the school have indeed embraced the beautiful game. Things have moved on slightly - it's still mostly Latin and Rugby... My grammar school back in the 60s only played rugby (and, of course, cricket). Football was only ever played on the playground at lunchtime. |
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Post by sword65 on Sept 10, 2020 1:44:04 GMT
I was a founder member of the Soccer Society at MGS (why couldn't we think of a better name?), which took us to a couple of England matches at Wembley (England 2 - 2 Russia and England 3 - 1 Sweden), and also allowed me to kick the ankle of my form master. I've no idea if it survived our leaving in 1968, or the change of headmaster, but it appears from JDL's post that the school have indeed embraced the beautiful game. Things have moved on slightly - it's still mostly Latin and Rugby... My grammar school back in the 60s only played rugby (and, of course, cricket). Football was only ever played on the playground at lunchtime. Our sports at Holmesdale were limited to in house games after we received a Kent wide 3 year ban for competing with other schools in any sport after torching Maplesden Noakes brand new minibus for having the audacity to thrash us at cricket. I didnt help matters by lamping the Faversham school for boys chess captain after he beat me, though I did win the only game in our 53-1 defeat. Happy days🤣 |
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Post by headstone on Sept 10, 2020 7:23:43 GMT
I don't know why I'm laughing, that is disgraceful, Sword!
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Post by jdl on Sept 10, 2020 9:00:37 GMT
Things have moved on slightly - it's still mostly Latin and Rugby... My grammar school back in the 60s only played rugby (and, of course, cricket). Football was only ever played on the playground at lunchtime. Our sports at Holmesdale were limited to in house games after we received a Kent wide 3 year ban for competing with other schools in any sport after torching Maplesden Noakes brand new minibus for having the audacity to thrash us at cricket. I didnt help matters by lamping the Faversham school for boys chess captain after he beat me, though I did win the only game in our 53-1 defeat. Happy days🤣 There's always one school like that in any town! Where I grew up there was one school - Ambleside - that you didn't even want to walk past in term time, and schools lived in fear of getting drawn against them in cups. But many years later we had a serious problem with one of our legacy systems at work, and had to call in an expert to fix it. I was chatting to this guy at lunchtime and it turned out we'd grown up in the same area - but whilst I was just a computer operator, he had a big house down in the West Country and owned a chain of hotels, as well as earning a fortune fixing legacy systems. He even had his own plane, and had flown into Rochester Airport that morning from Exeter. He was the same age as me, so I assumed he'd been to same school as me, but I couldn't remember him. It turned out (of course) that he hadn't been at my school - he'd failed the 11+ and gone to Ambleside instead! |
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Post by sword65 on Sept 10, 2020 9:58:13 GMT
I don't know why I'm laughing, that is disgraceful, Sword! What do you expect when a school is run by a headmaster who stood on top of the hall roof and urinated on the parents queueing up to gain entrance to the school play. He made it into the Sun newspaper for that little stunt. |
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