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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on May 26, 2020 20:08:24 GMT
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Post by jdl on May 27, 2020 0:27:08 GMT
Lovely stuff. Must have felt good to get all that stuff down on paper.
Me? I've started talking to plants.
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May 27, 2020 7:57:25 GMT
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Post by 61666 on May 27, 2020 7:57:25 GMT
A little ray of light in dark times! Sod being PC. Just go for it.
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Post by headstone on May 27, 2020 10:00:31 GMT
While PP is at it -
Sword65 quoted earlier today - "I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital, he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding."
That needs investigation, if only to ensure the daily Covid death statistic issued by the government (I use the term loosely) is taken with a big pinch of salt.
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Post by Fed up with PC views only on May 27, 2020 11:15:45 GMT
While PP is at it - Sword65 quoted earlier today - "I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital, he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding." That needs investigation, if only to ensure the daily Covid death statistic issued by the government (I use the term loosely) is taken with a big pinch of salt. Exactly. The world is not what it seems. Coronavirus is real, and it kills, but the extent of its actual killing and the truth about the global house arrest of an entire world population and enforced suspension of all civil and personal liberties that is lockdown based upon a viral, irrational fear poured out by a biased media on dodgy illogical statistics engineered to give credence to that fear (as above) absolutely stinks, and needs to be challenged, questioned and resisted by anyone who still has free will and a thinking brain. I, too, experienced distant acquaintances forced onto Covid wards when they didn't have it just because they coughed, others who died DURING the crisis being forced to have Covid as the cause whether they had it or not, and others denied (serious) healthcare due to 40% of hospitals closed to such healthcare due to being on standby for a flood of Covid cases that never came. I say distant acquaintances as I don't know of anyone that actually died of it. My daughter knows of one distant acquaintance of hers (over 60) who had Covid 19 and also had congenital longstanding heart problems and so his death certificate says he died of Covid 19 but the hospital cannot say for sure that his Covid caused the heart failure, just that he had both at the same time. However, he is in the stats as a Coronavirus death. Something stinks. And before you go blaming Boris, or Trump, this is happening in every country in the world, not just ours. In Romania, with a far, far less infection rate and death rate than ours, they have only just started letting them go to the supermarket! It stinks much.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on May 27, 2020 11:30:16 GMT
While PP is at it - Sword65 quoted earlier today - "I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital, he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding." That needs investigation, if only to ensure the daily Covid death statistic issued by the government (I use the term loosely) is taken with a big pinch of salt. Exactly. The world is not what it seems. Coronavirus is real, and it kills, but the extent of its actual killing and the truth about the global house arrest of an entire world population and enforced suspension of all civil and personal liberties that is lockdown based upon a viral, irrational fear poured out by a biased media on dodgy illogical statistics engineered to give credence to that fear (as above) absolutely stinks, and needs to be challenged, questioned and resisted by anyone who still has free will and a thinking brain. I, too, experienced distant acquaintances forced onto Covid wards when they didn't have it just because they coughed, others who died DURING the crisis being forced to have Covid as the cause whether they had it or not, and others denied (serious) healthcare due to 40% of hospitals closed to such healthcare due to being on standby for a flood of Covid cases that never came. I say distant acquaintances as I don't know of anyone that actually died of it. My daughter knows of one distant acquaintance of hers (over 60) who had Covid 19 and also had congenital longstanding heart problems and so his death certificate says he died of Covid 19 but the hospital cannot say for sure that his Covid caused the heart failure, just that he had both at the same time. However, he is in the stats as a Coronavirus death. Something stinks. And before you go blaming Boris, or Trump, this is happening in every country in the world, not just ours. In Romania, with a far, far less infection rate and death rate than ours, they have only just started letting them go to the supermarket! It stinks much. I literally don't know where to start with that one. Biased media ... free will and a thinking brain ... before you go blaming Boris and Trump... F*** my hat.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on May 27, 2020 11:42:04 GMT
While PP is at it - Sword65 quoted earlier today - "I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital, he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding." That needs investigation, if only to ensure the daily Covid death statistic issued by the government (I use the term loosely) is taken with a big pinch of salt. I don't give this government credit for a huge amount, but even they aren't insane enough to exaggerate their own death toll.
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Post by 61666 on May 27, 2020 12:15:13 GMT
Probably best to ignore such posts.
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May 27, 2020 14:09:51 GMT
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Post by sword65 on May 27, 2020 14:09:51 GMT
Probably best to ignore such posts. I have no problem with you ignoring my posts but as I have said many times I am not a liar, I give you a fact,a scenario that I believe to be true and I believe hospital management on mega salaries are manipulating government expenditure on this crisis . How long before every patient has Covid 19 as the cause of death?
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Post by daveu on May 27, 2020 18:01:52 GMT
While PP is at it - Sword65 quoted earlier today - "I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital, he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding." That needs investigation, if only to ensure the daily Covid death statistic issued by the government (I use the term loosely) is taken with a big pinch of salt. Exactly. The world is not what it seems. Coronavirus is real, and it kills, but the extent of its actual killing and the truth about the global house arrest of an entire world population and enforced suspension of all civil and personal liberties that is lockdown based upon a viral, irrational fear poured out by a biased media on dodgy illogical statistics engineered to give credence to that fear (as above) absolutely stinks, and needs to be challenged, questioned and resisted by anyone who still has free will and a thinking brain. I, too, experienced distant acquaintances forced onto Covid wards when they didn't have it just because they coughed, others who died DURING the crisis being forced to have Covid as the cause whether they had it or not, and others denied (serious) healthcare due to 40% of hospitals closed to such healthcare due to being on standby for a flood of Covid cases that never came. I say distant acquaintances as I don't know of anyone that actually died of it. My daughter knows of one distant acquaintance of hers (over 60) who had Covid 19 and also had congenital longstanding heart problems and so his death certificate says he died of Covid 19 but the hospital cannot say for sure that his Covid caused the heart failure, just that he had both at the same time. However, he is in the stats as a Coronavirus death. Something stinks. And before you go blaming Boris, or Trump, this is happening in every country in the world, not just ours. In Romania, with a far, far less infection rate and death rate than ours, they have only just started letting them go to the supermarket! It stinks much. Are you a Holocaust denier as well. Covid is real and is a massive problem. Forget what's recorded on death certificates. The most telling statistic is a comparison between the current death rate and the average for the same period over the last 5 years. This year's deaths are over 60,000 up, so around 60,000 likely to have died as a result of the virus. We'll never know the actual number because some deaths will be wrongly attributed, but that works both ways. However you can't argue with the increase in the overall death rate. Too many loony conspiracy theories on the forum. I sometimes think it's been taken over by the flat earth society.
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Post by jdh80 on May 27, 2020 19:33:04 GMT
Exactly. The world is not what it seems. Coronavirus is real, and it kills, but the extent of its actual killing and the truth about the global house arrest of an entire world population and enforced suspension of all civil and personal liberties that is lockdown based upon a viral, irrational fear poured out by a biased media on dodgy illogical statistics engineered to give credence to that fear (as above) absolutely stinks, and needs to be challenged, questioned and resisted by anyone who still has free will and a thinking brain. I, too, experienced distant acquaintances forced onto Covid wards when they didn't have it just because they coughed, others who died DURING the crisis being forced to have Covid as the cause whether they had it or not, and others denied (serious) healthcare due to 40% of hospitals closed to such healthcare due to being on standby for a flood of Covid cases that never came. I say distant acquaintances as I don't know of anyone that actually died of it. My daughter knows of one distant acquaintance of hers (over 60) who had Covid 19 and also had congenital longstanding heart problems and so his death certificate says he died of Covid 19 but the hospital cannot say for sure that his Covid caused the heart failure, just that he had both at the same time. However, he is in the stats as a Coronavirus death. Something stinks. And before you go blaming Boris, or Trump, this is happening in every country in the world, not just ours. In Romania, with a far, far less infection rate and death rate than ours, they have only just started letting them go to the supermarket! It stinks much. Are you a Holocaust denier as well. Covid is real and is a massive problem. Forget what's recorded on death certificates. The most telling statistic is a comparison between the current death rate and the average for the same period over the last 5 years. This year's deaths are over 60,000 up, so around 60,000 likely to have died as a result of the virus. We'll never know the actual number because some deaths will be wrongly attributed, but that works both ways. However you can't argue with the increase in the overall death rate. Too many loony conspiracy theories on the forum. I sometimes think it's been taken over by the flat earth society. I'm just waiting for him to blame this all on Terry and Oliver as they sacked a certain manager.
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Post by soulstone on May 27, 2020 20:44:38 GMT
[/quote]Are you a Holocaust denier as well. Covid is real and is a massive problem. Forget what's recorded on death certificates. The most telling statistic is a comparison between the current death rate and the average for the same period over the last 5 years. This year's deaths are over 60,000 up, so around 60,000 likely to have died as a result of the virus. We'll never know the actual number because some deaths will be wrongly attributed, but that works both ways. However you can't argue with the increase in the overall death rate. Too many loony conspiracy theories on the forum. I sometimes think it's been taken over by the flat earth society.[/quote]
Not strictly true daveu
While agreeing that Covid is real just because there may have been 60,000 extra deaths that does not mean they have all died of covid. Cancer treatment in hospitals has all but stopped and so have operations on a number of other things leading to deaths which make covid look worse. Take it from someone who has done work in hospitals during the pandemic.
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Post by 61666 on May 28, 2020 7:29:10 GMT
Elvis lives, the moon is made of green cheese and man never walked on it as it was all a Hollywood stunt. And Donald Trump is a really nice man who is not in anyway selfish or self centred. Maybe...
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Post by sword65 on May 28, 2020 10:44:47 GMT
While PP is at it - Sword65 quoted earlier today - "I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital, he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding." That needs investigation, if only to ensure the daily Covid death statistic issued by the government (I use the term loosely) is taken with a big pinch of salt. I don't give this government credit for a huge amount, but even they aren't insane enough to exaggerate their own death toll. It's not the government that are exaggerating the figures its health care management whi are filling their coffers with money that they are not entitled to,not that I mind them getting more money but they should do it through proper channels not by lying to mp's and the country as a whole. You have nurses working 13.5 hour shifts for a small wage whilst lying bosses are fleecing the taxpayers to earn their £300,000 per year. When this crisis is over you can expect a lot of managerial exits with huge severance bonuses,that is all wrong.
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Post by nws on May 28, 2020 12:12:10 GMT
I don't give this government credit for a huge amount, but even they aren't insane enough to exaggerate their own death toll. It's not the government that are exaggerating the figures its health care management whi are filling their coffers with money that they are not entitled to,not that I mind them getting more money but they should do it through proper channels not by lying to mp's and the country as a whole. You have nurses working 13.5 hour shifts for a small wage whilst lying bosses are fleecing the taxpayers to earn their £300,000 per year. When this crisis is over you can expect a lot of managerial exits with huge severance bonuses,that is all wrong. If this is happening on a wide scale it would call into question the whole internal market method of funding
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