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Post by 61666 on Apr 1, 2020 11:52:27 GMT
BBC News - Premier League clubs in 'moral vacuum' and players should sacrifice salary - politicians www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52120578This really sucks. The report shows that there are clubs who have furloughed non playing staff, but are continuing to pay players £70k a week or more. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 12:16:23 GMT
It's surely no surprise to all but the most superficial football fan that many clubs are, as the report says, 'morally bankrupt'. The thing that gets me is that they're exploiting a scheme intended to help those who can't deal with the sudden crisis without some sort of financial assistance, yet still paying the world's thickest millionaires tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of pounds a week. And who's going to be footing the bill? The good ole tax-payer. No problem with helping the people who need help, of course not, but this doesn't feel like it is what the scheme was intended for.
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Post by 61666 on Apr 3, 2020 7:42:58 GMT
On the World Service football half hour last night, Pat Nevin had an interesting take on why clubs continue to pay players wages, but are furloughing other staff.
Because the players are under contract, failure to pay wages is a breach of that and they have the right to walk away. Given that even an average PL first teamer is worth tens of millions of pounds, clubs are fearful of losing that investment.
Nevin used to be chairman of the PFA, so presumably knows what he is talking about, so essentially, it is down to the players themselves, with Barcelona showing the way. So far here, we have Eddie Howe at Bournemouth and not much else. Let's hope we start to see some positive responses soon, especially as many of the front line workers are on not much more than minimal wage.
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Post by headstone on Apr 3, 2020 8:36:28 GMT
We discovered an interesting detail last night, while banging saucepan lids in the street. Our neighbour's daughter (let's call her Zoe - because that's her name) is cabin crew for BA. She is currently working on the rescue flights, but then she'll be furloughed, and on the government's 80% of basic pay. Her problem is that her basic pay is only £12,000 pa - she makes up her income normally because she gets £3 per hour (or something like that) for being in the air, plus subsistence allowance. But at least she still has a job.
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Post by 61666 on Apr 3, 2020 9:38:15 GMT
Probably getting ahead of ourselves here, but all this is going to have to be paid for somehow. Having bailed the banks out last time, they can start by repaying the favour. Taxes must rise, but please, only for those that can afford it. Means testing winter fuel payments and licence fees another? Know someone who's pension is around £85k, but still gets winter fuel payment, which can't be right, can it?
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Post by Sennockian69 on Apr 3, 2020 17:25:12 GMT
If we can test those who have antibodies we must eventually see football again?
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Post by jdl on Apr 4, 2020 1:14:14 GMT
Probably getting ahead of ourselves here, but all this is going to have to be paid for somehow. Having bailed the banks out last time, they can start by repaying the favour. Taxes must rise, but please, only for those that can afford it. Means testing winter fuel payments and licence fees another? Know someone who's pension is around £85k, but still gets winter fuel payment, which can't be right, can it? I fear that paying for all this, and the other consequences of the shutdown (plus, of course, the whole Bexit madness) will make the Wu Flu 'crisis' look like a picnic. As for the winter fuel payment, the costs of means testing would far outweigh the savings of not paying the better-off. And not paying it at all would litterally kill many poorer pensioners. But there is a simple solution: it comes as a separate payment, so is quite obvious - just give it away if you don't need it. It was £200 this year, so I just gave £50 each to four homeless charities. |
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Post by headstone on Apr 4, 2020 9:25:42 GMT
See, nws, this is virtue signalling with (some) justification!
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Post by jdl on Apr 4, 2020 11:12:49 GMT
See, nws, this is virtue signalling with (some) justification! I can't see nws, as I have him blocked, but if you are implying I'm "virtue signalling" (whatever that is), this is actually the first time I have told anyone about my donations - even my wife doesn't know (she would probably disapprove). I only, reluctantly, mentioned it on here to encourage others to do the same. |
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Post by Tstone on Apr 4, 2020 15:51:14 GMT
See, nws, this is virtue signalling with (some) justification! I can't see nws, as I have him blocked, but if you are implying I'm "virtue signalling" (whatever that is), this is actually the first time I have told anyone about my donations - even my wife doesn't know (she would probably disapprove). I only, reluctantly, mentioned it on here to encourage others to do the same.
What! Keep secrets from the wife?
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Post by sword65 on Apr 4, 2020 16:27:25 GMT
Just read on the non league paper web site that the Premier league is giving £125 million to be shared by clubs in the EFL and National Leagues but nothing for steps 3-7. It doesnt say how much we might get but I doubt it'll be anything to get excited about but I suppose every penny counts.
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Post by 61666 on Apr 5, 2020 9:38:46 GMT
Not sure how to take yesterday's statement from PL players: cutting their wages by 60% denies money to the taxman, which then hits the NHS.
In one sense, that is true, with at least 40% of their income going to the taxman, but as an excuse not to cut their wages? Methinks it needs to be backed up by something substantial, like they are all going to give £1 million each to good causes, otherwise, it just looks like a lame excuse to hang on to their money.
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Post by jdl on Apr 5, 2020 10:58:50 GMT
Not sure how to take yesterday's statement from PL players: cutting their wages by 60% denies money to the taxman, which then hits the NHS. In one sense, that is true, with at least 40% of their income going to the taxman, but as an excuse not to cut their wages? Methinks it needs to be backed up by something substantial, like they are all going to give £1 million each to good causes, otherwise, it just looks like a lame excuse to hang on to their money. Perfectly logical - let's all demand huge salary increases, so that we pay more tax and save the NHS. |
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Post by hongkongstone on Apr 6, 2020 4:29:39 GMT
Just read on the non league paper web site that the Premier league is giving £125 million to be shared by clubs in the EFL and National Leagues but nothing for steps 3-7. It doesnt say how much we might get but I doubt it'll be anything to get excited about but I suppose every penny counts. Can't find whre I read it now but I believe it was only advancing cash that is routinely paid in August anyway. For the 68 NL teams this amounted to around £20m |
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Post by sword65 on Apr 6, 2020 4:38:52 GMT
Just read on the non league paper web site that the Premier league is giving £125 million to be shared by clubs in the EFL and National Leagues but nothing for steps 3-7. It doesnt say how much we might get but I doubt it'll be anything to get excited about but I suppose every penny counts. Can't find whre I read it now but I believe it was only advancing cash that is routinely paid in August anyway. For the 68 NL teams this amounted to around £20m Tight fisted fuckers. |
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