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Post by jackster on Apr 6, 2020 10:31:03 GMT
Strange one swampy, Elliot Romain always looked a decent player for us except he could not do what he was paid, like sticking the ball in the onion bag. He had chances enough but always found ways of missing the target. No logic, he has had a very fair season with Dartford, good luck to him.
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Post by jakeyboi on Apr 6, 2020 12:24:21 GMT
I know Bbj says in Hak we trust, but no confirmation as of yet if he will still be here next season.But no matter who,s in charge or who,s pulling on the kit every match day only thing that,s certain is that we will still be cheering them on week after week, so lets not sit here moaning about who,s going to play or are we best playing F/T or P/T let,s get through this an see what happens. COYS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2020 12:55:20 GMT
So where is the logic in Eillott Romain? Signs for us when we are Full Time and didn't score 1 League Goal. Signs for Dartford as Part Time and is amongst the leading scorers in Division. Maybe not as Black & White as some are suggesting. There is often no logic as to why certain players do brilliantly at one club and poorly at another. Look at Ken Charlery - he was superb for every club he played for (including us), except Watford. Ask Watford supporters what they think of him and they'll tell you he was crap. To Peterborough supporters he is a God (they were in the same division at the time).
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Post by nws on Apr 6, 2020 13:49:27 GMT
We have had loads of good players since we went full time, starting with Stu Lewis and quite a few more besides. But we have supporters convinced that there are just as good part time footballers doing other full time jobs that happen to live close enough. Who are they ? It should be simple enough to name 11 part players living in Kent that would form the nucleus of a promotion seeking squad. Fill yer boots. They don't need to name names, it's enough to keep sowing the seeds. And if you have the nerve to point out that the part time players that got us promoted haven't exactly set the world alight since, they claim that it's irrelevant. The PT players got us promoted and to 9th in the table. The FT players got us relegated and to mid table NLS. Please tell me what logic makes FT better, given such facts? Oh and the players that elected to stay PT were not going higher because they elected to be PT.
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Post by Bernie on Apr 6, 2020 13:56:42 GMT
From now on, part/full time will be decided by which league we are in. Doesn't really matter what we think, or how many pages we devote to the subject on here. A few years profit in the National South and maybe another new stand will magically appear on Maidstone's skyline, next to all the ugly new skyscrapers.
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Post by nws on Apr 6, 2020 14:04:00 GMT
From now on, part/full time will be decided by which league we are in. Doesn't really matter what we think, or how many pages we devote to the subject on here. A few years profit in the National South and maybe another new stand will magically appear on Maidstone's skyline, next to all the ugly new skyscrapers. Yes. Go PT and get a stadium equivalent to the san siroπππ
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Post by Nick on Apr 6, 2020 14:06:01 GMT
You know very well nws that you can 'select' facts to back up your prejudices. You obviously take the view that recruiting part timers to train a couple of evenings a week is a recipe for success and you have the facts on your side. Time will tell. Imo it is going to take some canny management next season to recruit a new crop of part time players that will improve on the current batch. What I hope for and what I expect are not the same.
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Post by swampy on Apr 6, 2020 14:45:13 GMT
So where is the logic in Eillott Romain? Signs for us when we are Full Time and didn't score 1 League Goal. Signs for Dartford as Part Time and is amongst the leading scorers in Division. Maybe not as Black & White as some are suggesting. There is often no logic as to why certain players do brilliantly at one club and poorly at another. Look at Ken Charlery - he was superb for every club he played for (including us), except Watford. Ask Watford supporters what they think of him and they'll tell you he was crap. To Peterborough supporters he is a God (they were in the same division at the time). That's my point though often the success of a player comes down the relationship with the Manager and the tactics and formation the team play. Not weather the club is Full time or Part time.
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Post by Fed up with PC views only on Apr 6, 2020 17:44:28 GMT
I know Bbj says in Hak we trust, but no confirmation as of yet if he will still be here next season.But no matter who,s in charge or who,s pulling on the kit every match day only thing that,s certain is that we will still be cheering them on week after week, so lets not sit here moaning about who,s going to play or are we best playing F/T or P/T let,s get through this an see what happens. COYS. I know, JB, I agree, we may not even be able to afford Hak and he may not be able to afford to work here anymore, but for now he is still the Manager, so we will have to give him, and whoever he gets to pull on the black and amber on the restart, a chance, is all I am saying. I think you are saying the same. This crisis has been a great leveller in lot of ways. Even nws and I seem to be agreeing lately! There is more to life than football, despite what Shankly said.
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Post by Nick on Apr 6, 2020 21:39:04 GMT
Don't worry bbj, it won't last ! (agreeing the nws)
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Post by nws on Apr 6, 2020 22:56:44 GMT
You know very well nws that you can 'select' facts to back up your prejudices. You can, if you are so inclined. People with an opposing view can do so as well.You obviously take the view that recruiting part timers to train a couple of evenings a week is a recipe for success and you have the facts on your side. I don't but your are welcome to continue in your misconception, based, I believe, on my answer to Dave U (I was, actually, merely pointing out logic to him)Time will tell. It will. Is there anything it will tell us that you are particularly interested in?Imo it is going to take some canny management next season to recruit a new crop of part time players that will improve on the current batch. OK. Thanks for that. I shall bear that in mind over the next few months.What I hope for and what I expect are not the same. As with previous answer above.
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Post by nws on Apr 6, 2020 23:00:45 GMT
Don't worry bbj, it won't last ! (agreeing the nws) Especially if you disagree (as you seem to be above) on a point I haven't made and a belief I haven't expressed and don't care enough to have an opinion on.
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Post by hongkongstone on Apr 7, 2020 4:59:18 GMT
We have had loads of good players since we went full time, starting with Stu Lewis and quite a few more besides. But we have supporters convinced that there are just as good part time footballers doing other full time jobs that happen to live close enough. Who are they ? It should be simple enough to name 11 part players living in Kent that would form the nucleus of a promotion seeking squad. Fill yer boots. You are talking about better quality players who were with us when we were in the National League. That is not the same thing as trying to be full-time in the division below. I am of the mind that you need to be full-time in the National League, but we're not in that division, are we? Players like Lewis, Joe Piggot, Zav Hines etc. would never have signed for us, and certainly not on the money that would have been offered, if we'd been in this division. Your comparison is, therefore, totally irrelevant. Stuart Lewis played for Northfleet in the NLS.
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Post by Nick on Apr 7, 2020 6:48:43 GMT
But we are told there are no benefits to being full time and paying the market rate for accomplished players. The owners took a calculated risk this season, remaining full time in order to give our management team the best chance of putting a squad together to drive the club back to the National League. It is not Terry and Oliver's fault that their gamble didn't succeed. John and Hakan underperformed, too many of the players they recruited didn't live up to expectations. Finances have forced the club to revert to part time but the idea that this will automatically result in better players, better team spirit and the rest is bonkers.
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Post by steveh21 on Apr 7, 2020 7:24:11 GMT
Well im willing to say that I think our PT team next season will produce better football, better results, better fan/player relationships and a better league position than we have seen for a few years.
I'm no mystic Meg but just going on nearly 40 years watching this great club.
..let's see how it all pans out.
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