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Post by jdh80 on Jun 24, 2020 16:11:17 GMT
So who's planning on getting straight down the pub on 4 July? I'm going to leave it until the following week, let the initial rush happen. Maybe as soon as Monday 6th. One advantage of working from home is not having to drive to an office and feel hung-over, so school-night drinking is in... I have already booked my table for 1100 hrs and preordered my beer and I still have Β£89.76 behind the bar so I dont have to find any money,happy days.ππΊππΊππΊππΊπ Ahh swordyman buying us all a round of drinks mighty kind of you good sir..
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Post by 61666 on Jun 24, 2020 16:16:22 GMT
Everyone should be scared of Covid19. As for pubs, if some folk get off on shouting at each other in confined spaces, more fool them. At least football is outside. On a similar theme, went to Rye today, which was very quiet and prettier than ever. The queue for Camber Sands however started at the town centre, all the way to the junction for the minor road to the resort, itself still several miles away. Even though it was clear that traffic was at a standstill, cars still opted to join the queue. Why, FFS? It was obviously going to take at least an hour to get there, yet elsewhere the roads were clear and no doubt Dymchurch, with an equally fine beach, was much easier to get to. For me, those that insist on following the herd as just as dangerous as the virus itself and twice as stupid. For anyone who happens to live in Camber, it must be a real pisser.
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Post by sword65 on Jun 24, 2020 17:08:06 GMT
I have already booked my table for 1100 hrs and preordered my beer and I still have Β£89.76 behind the bar so I dont have to find any money,happy days.ππΊππΊππΊππΊπ Ahh swordyman buying us all a round of drinks mighty kind of you good sir.. I am not telling you what pub it is though but if you can find me I will happily buy you a drink.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Jun 24, 2020 19:10:07 GMT
Shouting out in a pub is exactly want the honey badger virus wants. I won't go to pubs indoors until there is a cure. So presumably you never go in a pub in winter, in flu season (flu kills thousands every year in the UK - I think it was 23000 5 years ago)? And you'll have had your heart checked regularly (450 deaths a day) and all the checks for different types of cancer (another 450 deaths a day)? Or are you exclusively scared of COVID? Have you seen the damage this virus does to your lungs? It wins 6 0 6 0 and effs you up forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 7:48:08 GMT
... in about 1/4 of hospitalised cases, ie a tiny proportion.
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Post by pedant on Jun 25, 2020 9:59:51 GMT
... in about 1/4 of hospitalised cases, ie a tiny proportion. ..... but the real number of hospitalised cases is now, relatively, low because the majority of people are rightly wary/scared enough of it to be cautious.
Pubs, social interaction etc haven't become safe. They're just safer than they would have been without any restrictions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 10:49:28 GMT
Just one of many dangers in life and very variable in different places - coronavirus.data.gov.uk/#category=ltlas&map=rate Maidstone about 50% more cases per head than Tonbridge, my part of Oxon somewhere between the 2 but City of Oxford much higher. Of my little drinking group, one person will be hammering on the door of the pub on July 4, the other 3 (me included) happy to wait a few days and then go somewhere with a big garden. Did anyone notice that localised outbreaks in USA, Germany and Anglesey all happened in meat-packing factories? Shudder to think what that says about the working conditions in those places.
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Post by headstone on Jun 25, 2020 11:07:56 GMT
Months ago, we booked two nights in a b & b in Hythe. We are due to arrive on 5th July, what timing! And if the restaurants there can't cope (either with too many customers or not enough precautions), we can always drive home to eat.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 12:59:16 GMT
Enjoy yourselves. I'm waiting another month and another pay cheque before maybe looking at booking a B&B or going camping. Plus we'll know by then whether July 4 measures have backfired or not. I'll put myself at about 70% optimistic on that.
I find it quite sweet how Nicola Sturgeon proves her worth by doing something different from England at every turn; though admittedly "not doing what Boris does" is a good rule of thumb. Similar in Wales. I suppose Chester players aren't allowed to jog round their ground as that would involve going into Wales and out again?
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Post by jdl on Jun 26, 2020 0:41:27 GMT
The virus is still out there, still just as infectious, and still just as nasty. We are nowhere near 'herd immunity' (in fact, we are more or less as far away from it as we were back in February). The reason the infection rate has come down is purely because the lockdown and social distancing has worked. But the infection rate is still quite high (2,000+ cases a day - no one seems to know the exact figure!), and the infamous R value is stubbornly stuck at 0.7 - 0.9 (which is politician-speak for 'just under 1 - we hope'.
In other words, there is no scientific justification for easing the lockdown, or reducing social distancing - it is being done on purely economic and political grounds. We are effectively being used as guinea pigs to see how many deaths and how much suffering we can take in order to reduce unemployment, have a holiday and go for a drink.
There is, of course, merit in the economic argument, after all, there is no point in everyone being safe if the money runs out. But we could at least have waited until the R value was well under 1 and the test, track and trace system was working properly - then we might have had some chance of catching and controlling any outbreaks before it become epidemic again. But, if it does become epidemic again (and how much do you trust Johnson and his bunch of clowns to get this right?), there'll have to be another lockdown. And f**k alone knows what that will do to the economy.
We are donkeys being led by mules.
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Post by 61666 on Jun 26, 2020 7:41:24 GMT
If Bournemouth yesterday is anything to go by, more like lemmings than donkeys! If they were just locals, then you could, sort of, understand it - but folk were driving from far and wide, with the consequence of not just creating local outbreaks, but fuelling national ones again. There really is no need, when we have plenty of beaches and beauty spots within half an hour or so of anywhere in this country. Add in the illegal raves breaking out all over the place and you can only wonder at the head up the arse mentality of so many and from all walks of life. Stick few beers inside them next weekend and gawd knows what the consequences will be.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 8:01:03 GMT
Yet there has been no spike from 4 weeks ago when people went to beaches / on demos. I think I heard a Japanese study reckons you're 20 times more likely to catch it indoors (enclosed space). Workers all returning to offices on the same Monday would be much more devastating. I'm likely to be working from home until Christmas at the earliest.
Why people all flock to the same beach (and then according to reports, shit on it and leave their litter all over it) beggars belief. what 61666 said above. A psychologist would point out that as non-league fans we're crowd-shunners anyway - how many of us have been to a top-flight game and not enjoyed it as much as a National South game?
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Post by sword65 on Jun 26, 2020 8:27:30 GMT
The virus is still out there, still just as infectious, and still just as nasty. We are nowhere near 'herd immunity' (in fact, we are more or less as far away from it as we were back in February). The reason the infection rate has come down is purely because the lockdown and social distancing has worked. But the infection rate is still quite high (2,000+ cases a day - no one seems to know the exact figure!), and the infamous R value is stubbornly stuck at 0.7 - 0.9 (which is politician-speak for 'just under 1 - we hope'. In other words, there is no scientific justification for easing the lockdown, or reducing social distancing - it is being done on purely economic and political grounds. We are effectively being used as guinea pigs to see how many deaths and how much suffering we can take in order to reduce unemployment, have a holiday and go for a drink. There is, of course, merit in the economic argument, after all, there is no point in everyone being safe if the money runs out. But we could at least have waited until the R value was well under 1 and the test, track and trace system was working properly - then we might have had some chance of catching and controlling any outbreaks before it become epidemic again. But, if it does become epidemic again (and how much do you trust Johnson and his bunch of clowns to get this right?), there'll have to be another lockdown. And f**k alone knows what that will do to the economy. We are donkeys being led by mules. Stop being an ass π
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Post by sword65 on Jun 26, 2020 8:31:46 GMT
Yet there has been no spike from 4 weeks ago when people went to beaches / on demos. I think I heard a Japanese study reckons you're 20 times more likely to catch it indoors (enclosed space). Workers all returning to offices on the same Monday would be much more devastating. I'm likely to be working from home until Christmas at the earliest. Why people all flock to the same beach (and then according to reports, shit on it and leave their litter all over it) beggars belief. what 61666 said above. A psychologist would point out that as non-league fans we're crowd-shunners anyway - how many of us have been to a top-flight game and not enjoyed it as much as a National South game? I could be completely wrong but did I not read months ago that COVID 19 dies at 27Β°c ,if true then nobody on the beaches were in any danger as the temperature was 30Β°c. They are still idiots though.
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Post by Bernie on Jun 26, 2020 9:20:29 GMT
The funny thing is, I donβt miss the pub much, which is the danger for any industry recovery.
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