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Post by Tstone on Apr 26, 2020 8:27:50 GMT
Fischer's are delivering 18 or 36 pint polypins of all their range. I haven't used this as it's a bit much for me to get through. I've had Fischer's from Alex in the rifle and it's a good service/beer. The cellars are doing a collection service. Pre order and pick up Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. 5-7 except Saturday 4-6. Check the Facebook page for the range of cans, draught and keg. And contact details. They are a bit pricier but good.
Are they serving it Ice Cold?
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Post by pedant on Apr 26, 2020 10:45:47 GMT
Whilst appreciating times are tough for these businesses its difficult to see how collecting alcohol from a licenced premises fits with any of the four reasons currently allowed for leaving your house. It has been clarified that purchasing alcohol is acceptable. You personally may disagree but you are not the rule maker. Also off licences are allowed to be open so the premises are operating as such. They are also imposing strict'social distancing' protocols, certainly stricter than any of the supermarkets I've been to. Also only one of the ones I mentioned are doing collections the others are delivering. I deliberately avoided referring to any of the specific businesses you referred to.
My point was more an observation that "we" seem to be moving more towards how the 'rules' can be stretched to justify our decisions rather than following the overarching message to stay at home except for essential trips.
For the vast majority a trip to an off licence or equivalent is no more justifiable than a trip to a local 'mini-supermarket' to buy a bunch of bananas.
The Government message is that you don't stay safe, and keep the lockdown to as short as possible, by not minimising contact.
Just because B&Q is allowed to be open doesn't make shopping there for home decorating supplies an essential trip.
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Post by jdl on Apr 26, 2020 11:09:35 GMT
People are missing the point - following the 'rules' to the letter, rather than doing what the rules set out to get us to do.
The basic aim is to stop the spread of the virus by avoiding situations where people are closer together than 2m (although in the States it's 6', and in other countries it's 1.5m or even 1m). That, coupled with basic hygiene (hand washing, etc), should stop the virus being transmitted.
But it doesn't really matter where you are going, or what you're going there for (one man's 'essentials' are another man's 'luxuries'), as long as you keep away from others, don't touch your face, and wash your hands. The decision to close some shops and not others was almost entirely arbitrary, and has caused untold damage to business and the economy - not to mention loss of income for millions. If Sainsbury's can function under the current restrictions, why can't B&Q?
We are left with the crazy situation where I can buy plants and DIY stuff in the Range or Wilkinson's, but not in B&Q or Wickes, I can buy books in WH Smiths, but not in Waterstones, and stationery in Smiths, but not in The Works or Ryman's. Smiths appears to be open because it has the Post Office at one end, so, en-route, you can buy anything else you want, but, although M&S is open because it sells food, you can't buy any of the clothes you walk past to get to the food bit!
The whole thing wasn't thought through at all, and has caused no end of completely unnecessary damage as a result. It has also created a situation where it will be a lot more difficult to maintain than if it had been implemented sensibly.
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Post by pedant on Apr 26, 2020 12:40:44 GMT
People are missing the point - following the 'rules' to the letter, rather than doing what the rules set out to get us to do. The basic aim is to stop the spread of the virus by avoiding situations where people are closer together than 2m (although in the States it's 6', and in other countries it's 1.5m or even 1m). That, coupled with basic hygiene (hand washing, etc), should stop the virus being transmitted. But it doesn't really matter where you are going, or what you're going there for (one man's 'essentials' are another man's 'luxuries'), as long as you keep away from others, don't touch your face, and wash your hands. The decision to close some shops and not others was almost entirely arbitrary, and has caused untold damage to business and the economy - not to mention loss of income for millions. If Sainsbury's can function under the current restrictions, why can't B&Q? We are left with the crazy situation where I can buy plants and DIY stuff in the Range or Wilkinson's, but not in B&Q or Wickes, I can buy books in WH Smiths, but not in Waterstones, and stationery in Smiths, but not in The Works or Ryman's. Smiths appears to be open because it has the Post Office at one end, so, en-route, you can buy anything else you want, but, although M&S is open because it sells food, you can't buy any of the clothes you walk past to get to the food bit! The whole thing wasn't thought through at all, and has caused no end of completely unnecessary damage as a result. It has also created a situation where it will be a lot more difficult to maintain than if it had been implemented sensibly. That's certainly one view of "the point".
I'd agree if you'd said: "The basic aim is to stop the spread of the virus by avoiding situations where people are together."
The distance apart aspect I believe was intended where people being together was unavoidable. The actual distance being science led but with no clear 'science' this has been interpreted differently by different countries.
I believe you're factually mistaken on both B&Q and Wickes. Both are able to open under the current restrictions and sell all of their range. I believe both B&Q and Wickes then chose to close all their stores to safeguard their workers although B&Q have reopened over 150 stores in the last few days.
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Post by jakeyboi on Apr 26, 2020 12:53:13 GMT
People are missing the point - following the 'rules' to the letter, rather than doing what the rules set out to get us to do. The basic aim is to stop the spread of the virus by avoiding situations where people are closer together than 2m (although in the States it's 6', and in other countries it's 1.5m or even 1m). That, coupled with basic hygiene (hand washing, etc), should stop the virus being transmitted. But it doesn't really matter where you are going, or what you're going there for (one man's 'essentials' are another man's 'luxuries'), as long as you keep away from others, don't touch your face, and wash your hands. The decision to close some shops and not others was almost entirely arbitrary, and has caused untold damage to business and the economy - not to mention loss of income for millions. If Sainsbury's can function under the current restrictions, why can't B&Q? We are left with the crazy situation where I can buy plants and DIY stuff in the Range or Wilkinson's, but not in B&Q or Wickes, I can buy books in WH Smiths, but not in Waterstones, and stationery in Smiths, but not in The Works or Ryman's. Smiths appears to be open because it has the Post Office at one end, so, en-route, you can buy anything else you want, but, although M&S is open because it sells food, you can't buy any of the clothes you walk past to get to the food bit! The whole thing wasn't thought through at all, and has caused no end of completely unnecessary damage as a result. It has also created a situation where it will be a lot more difficult to maintain than if it had been implemented sensibly. Yet you can go to other food outlets an buy non food items, Asda are selling all clothes an non food stuff but have shut there Asda Living stores. Exactly the same with Tesco,s an Sainsbury,s you can buy all non food items from there bigger stores. Trouble with all this is that there was no time to sit an work out who can or cannot do certain things. But hopefully we are nearing the end an soon go back to being a rude un-caring nation.
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Post by daveu on Apr 26, 2020 14:09:41 GMT
People are missing the point - following the 'rules' to the letter, rather than doing what the rules set out to get us to do. The basic aim is to stop the spread of the virus by avoiding situations where people are closer together than 2m (although in the States it's 6', and in other countries it's 1.5m or even 1m). That, coupled with basic hygiene (hand washing, etc), should stop the virus being transmitted. But it doesn't really matter where you are going, or what you're going there for (one man's 'essentials' are another man's 'luxuries'), as long as you keep away from others, don't touch your face, and wash your hands. The decision to close some shops and not others was almost entirely arbitrary, and has caused untold damage to business and the economy - not to mention loss of income for millions. If Sainsbury's can function under the current restrictions, why can't B&Q? We are left with the crazy situation where I can buy plants and DIY stuff in the Range or Wilkinson's, but not in B&Q or Wickes, I can buy books in WH Smiths, but not in Waterstones, and stationery in Smiths, but not in The Works or Ryman's. Smiths appears to be open because it has the Post Office at one end, so, en-route, you can buy anything else you want, but, although M&S is open because it sells food, you can't buy any of the clothes you walk past to get to the food bit! The whole thing wasn't thought through at all, and has caused no end of completely unnecessary damage as a result. It has also created a situation where it will be a lot more difficult to maintain than if it had been implemented sensibly. Yet you can go to other food outlets an buy non food items, Asda are selling all clothes an non food stuff but have shut there Asda Living stores. Exactly the same with Tesco,s an Sainsbury,s you can buy all non food items from there bigger stores. Trouble with all this is that there was no time to sit an work out who can or cannot do certain things. But hopefully we are nearing the end an soon go back to being a rude un-caring nation. The government said sometime last week that any shops that were allowed to open could sell anything they had in stock, hence big supermarkets continuing to sell clothes, gardening stuff and many other things that specialist shops can't.
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Post by 61666 on Apr 27, 2020 8:12:49 GMT
There seems to be many anomalies, like the guidance that it was ok to drive out for a walk, as long as the walk was longer than the drive. So it was ok to go to a beauty spot? Hardly, when national parks and the like, plus seaside resorts were all saying stay away, plus many car parks closed anyway. France meanwhile have been decidedly Draconian. To be out, you need to have filled in an online form giving reasons why. If stopped by the police failure to produce said form results in a fine, while taking your tortoise for a walk was not seen as a valid reason. True. Here, indeed everywhere, the basic facts are that, at best, only 5% of the population have been infected and even then this is no guarantee of future immunity. However, we can't stay indoors for two years until an effective treatment/vaccine is found, so the government have to devise ways of opening things up before the world goes bankrupt. Sharing ideas and proposals is important for all sorts of reasons. It promotes discussion, gives people hope and should encourage folk to stick with whatever the regulations are because without that knowledge people WILL find ways to bend the rules. If the powers that be think that current lockdown needs to go on for longer, then they need to say so, because with other places starting to ease thing, folk here will get increasingly restless and we could yet find ourselves in French or Spanish style rules.
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Post by Bernie on Apr 29, 2020 17:27:35 GMT
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Post by pedant on Apr 29, 2020 17:37:09 GMT
I've been wrong before but think there's more chance of us being given an automatic promotion to the National League for a 2020-21 season than pubs being allowed to open in June.
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Post by sword65 on Apr 29, 2020 18:13:57 GMT
I've been wrong before but think there's more chance of us being given an automatic promotion to the National League for a 2020-21 season than pubs being allowed to open in June. Landlord at the Royal Oak Tonbridge has been told by the brewery to prepare for a June reopening.
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Post by Bernie on Apr 29, 2020 18:22:35 GMT
Wetherspoons would be my last choice of pub. But they do have the app and space. How it would work in a typical local. Masks for staff? Limit numbers? Use outside areas in summer?
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Post by Sennockian69 on Apr 29, 2020 22:06:38 GMT
Only way pubs will open is if we have limited numbers and social distancing on steroids.
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Post by hongkongstone on Apr 30, 2020 4:52:38 GMT
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Post by 61666 on Apr 30, 2020 5:53:57 GMT
How do you drink a pint while wearing a mask? Straws?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 9:14:02 GMT
How do you drink a pint while wearing a mask? Straws? Ask Trump, he'd tell you to inject it.
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