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Post by headstone on Mar 28, 2020 10:37:25 GMT
They haven't worked out if we develop immunity yet so the jury is, as you allude to, out on that one. The South Korean approach seems to have worked the best, which has involved mass testing and isolation of those testing positive. Our government seems to be coming to that party too late with large swathes of the population already infected and still no test kits in sight. We knew this thing was out there because we saw the news from China yet we were so ill-prepared and have been left scrabbling and fire-fighting. To me, years of funding things that are unimportant (tax cuts to skew wealth even more etc) and underfunding things that are important, like health, is the obvious reason we find ourselves in this position. The government only seemed to start taking things seriously when they realised how much of the economy could be wiped out through this. Well they told us this was a war, and we've started dealing with it in exactly the way we started WW2 ie no preparation, no investment in modern equipment, ignoring what was happening elsewhere, making policy on the hoof, and hoping it wouldn't happen here. Someone once said something sage about this, like we are forever repeating the mistakes of history and expecting a different outcome. Still, from April 2nd we can watch National Theatre Live online, starting with One Man Two Guvnors, which is a damn sight more entertaining than Vera Lynn!
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Post by 61666 on Mar 28, 2020 12:56:21 GMT
There is an article on the BBC football thread about previous suspensions of football, namely the two wars, plus the winters of 47 and 62, when games were off for weeks. During the wars, there were no leagues as such for three and seven years, yet clubs somehow survived. However, things were different then of course with lower wages and no doubt fewer overheads. Equally, there was no TV money, so how did clubs survive?
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Post by rollingstone on Mar 28, 2020 13:19:33 GMT
Wasn't there no games played in Northern Ireland during the troubles too? I seem to recall watching a programme where they showed derry football ground and said it was closed for 15 years?
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Post by jdl on Mar 28, 2020 14:15:00 GMT
There is an article on the BBC football thread about previous suspensions of football, namely the two wars, plus the winters of 47 and 62, when games were off for weeks. During the wars, there were no leagues as such for three and seven years, yet clubs somehow survived. However, things were different then of course with lower wages and no doubt fewer overheads. Equally, there was no TV money, so how did clubs survive? I assume they just shut up shop and got by with minimum maintenance for the duration. Players were paid peanuts in those days and grounds were very basic, needing very little money spent on them. We could (and many clubs will) do much the same this time, but fans may have to adjust their expectations when it all starts up again. Which might well be a good thing.
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Post by sword65 on Mar 28, 2020 15:29:57 GMT
There is an article on the BBC football thread about previous suspensions of football, namely the two wars, plus the winters of 47 and 62, when games were off for weeks. During the wars, there were no leagues as such for three and seven years, yet clubs somehow survived. However, things were different then of course with lower wages and no doubt fewer overheads. Equally, there was no TV money, so how did clubs survive? I assume they just shut up shop and got by with minimum maintenance for the duration. Players were paid peanuts in those days and grounds were very basic, needing very little money spent on them. We could (and many clubs will) do much the same this time, but fans may have to adjust their expectations when it all starts up again. Which might well be a good thing. No might about it. It will be a good thing. To the best of my knowledge there is no shortage of peanuts so let's resume matters with that currency across non league football.
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Post by jakeyboi on Mar 28, 2020 16:20:55 GMT
This whole situation will change football forever, well until greed finally finds its way back in to it. I read today that Dover have told there players they have no money available for wages,sure many other clubs will follow suit. Lets just hope that our club an as many others as possible survive this crisis.I,m sure if the club needs volunteers to do basic maintainence on the buildings an grounds there is enough of us to help.No one really knows what will eventually happen because in most households football is currently not a priority.
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Post by jdh80 on Mar 28, 2020 16:44:52 GMT
There is an article on the BBC football thread about previous suspensions of football, namely the two wars, plus the winters of 47 and 62, when games were off for weeks. During the wars, there were no leagues as such for three and seven years, yet clubs somehow survived. However, things were different then of course with lower wages and no doubt fewer overheads. Equally, there was no TV money, so how did clubs survive? During the war years there was still football, not the national game that they had before and after but there was still football, there is a fascinating paperback book by jack rollin called "the forgotten London league and cups - wartime football in London". A lot of clubs hired their grounds out for armed services exhibition games as well to generate some income. During that 62/63 season some teams did arrange friendlies against local teams as national travel was a no go. Spurs and arsenal played 2 friendlies on the same day, one was for first team players the other was reserves although a couple played both games, next to no crowd though. Season still ended in May with last league games looking to have been played 20/May (no playoffs back then). The 46/47 season didn't finish league games until 7/June and this is the latest league games have taken place since the end if ww2, back then reserve games also got very good attendances especially at the top level where crowds of 3000+ for reserve games were not uncommon. If we comply with the full lock down protocol that would be three months taking us to the end of june/July most players in championship downwards will be out of contract (some premiership players as well), most teams have 9 games left in the premier league but when do they plan to start the new season they can't delay it due to all the international tournaments moved to next summer. They already complain about too many games in short spaces of time, there doesn't seem to be the availability to complete last season in terms of leagues etc (you could probably fit in completing the fa cup, vase and trophy before the new season starts). You can't scrap the whole of the 20/21 season just so that you can fit in 9 games left from the previous year the impact that will have on clubs financially (suggestion by some people but not on here). It's unlikely that European football will be back up and running so champions league and Europa league and even all the big money friendlies that the prem teams usually do abroad will not likely go ahead probably be a lot less air travel as well as those companies face collapse, so no need for them to jockey for positions to finish top 4/5. If European football doesn't go ahead next season then man city could accept the 2 year ban and only miss out on Europe in the 21/22 season, as the wording from UEFA is a two year European ban, not a two season.
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