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Post by jackster on Mar 15, 2020 8:54:20 GMT
That makes sense - cancel/postpone what hasn't started, to give the leagues a chance. Will players moan about missing their summer break? Maybe cup competitions should be severely pruned next season, to allow a later start? That means everything apart from the FA Cups, so all levels get one opportunity. At our level, keep league sizes as they are. Not that long ago some footballers played county cricket in the summer. Impossible now, given the length of the season. Cut out the non essential competitions and it will create time to finish this season's league matches, maybe not starting next season till September. Probably the best way foward proposal Ive heard. Sounds very sensible and realistic. Hence not much chance.
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Post by jdl on Mar 15, 2020 10:02:22 GMT
I can't see any 'solution' to the Wu Flu/football problem that isn't going to upset almost everyone. Declare the season over now and the current table as 'final' and you'll upset the teams that might have made promotion and who might have avoided relegation (never mind those with loads of games in hand!). Declare the season void and Liverpool fans will moan from now to eternity (what's new?). Not to mention Wealdstone fans, while they watch from the mid-table as H&W storm the table next season... Run some sort of playoffs to sort out promotion and relegation, once the panic is over? Can't wait to see how they are going to do that! Impossible situation. I think the only thing they can do is declare the season void, whatever problems that causes. And Liverpool? Well, now perhaps they'll understand what it felt like to be a Hammer the last time we qualified for Europe, but couldn't take our place because English teams were banned because of Liverpool fans' behaviour. Bitter, moi? Hammers fans have nothing to moan about in comparison to Everton fans who were denied 2 entries to the European Cup after winning the league. Yeah, but Everton fans are used to winning things, being in Europe, etc...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 10:56:51 GMT
I remember being totally bemused, around 1995, when English clubs were not taking their places in the Intertoto Cup, or just putting out the reserves (including Wimbledon for whom this was the first and last shot at Europe). In France they took it seriously; Strasbourg got through to the last 32 of the UEFA Cup v Milan, and village side Guingamp drew Inter Milan. Short sighted British attitude to European benefits? Well I never!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 11:24:09 GMT
That makes sense - cancel/postpone what hasn't started, to give the leagues a chance. Will players moan about missing their summer break? Maybe cup competitions should be severely pruned next season, to allow a later start? That means everything apart from the FA Cups, so all levels get one opportunity. At our level, keep league sizes as they are. Not that long ago some footballers played county cricket in the summer. Impossible now, given the length of the season. Cut out the non essential competitions and it will create time to finish this season's league matches, maybe not starting next season till September. Probably the best way foward proposal Ive heard. Sounds very sensible and realistic. Hence not much chance. Voice of reason Wayne Rooney writes: "We're happy to play until September if the season extends to then, if that's how it has to be. That's our job. As long as we know we're safe to play and it's a safe environment for spectators, we'll play. The next World Cup is in November and December 2022, so you could actually use this situation as an opportunity and say we're going to finish the 2019-20 season later this year, then prepare for 2022 by having the next two seasons starting in winter."
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Post by nws on Mar 15, 2020 13:13:13 GMT
The ideas are great. If the problem is under control by the summer
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Post by jdh80 on Mar 15, 2020 20:16:00 GMT
Probably the best way foward proposal Ive heard. Sounds very sensible and realistic. Hence not much chance. Voice of reason Wayne Rooney writes: "We're happy to play until September if the season extends to then, if that's how it has to be. That's our job. As long as we know we're safe to play and it's a safe environment for spectators, we'll play. The next World Cup is in November and December 2022, so you could actually use this situation as an opportunity and say we're going to finish the 2019-20 season later this year, then prepare for 2022 by having the next two seasons starting in winter." Yeah that's alright for Rooney whole get his money no matter what but what about the other players at teams who need the income over the next few months. What about the players who have work etc planned over the summer months. What happens to player contracts that end in may/june how will clubs be able to afford that, very unlikely so the premier league and championship might be able to continue but a lot of other clubs would be screwed. (no income during the time that there are no games but still having to pay their players, then when the games start back up pray that they get good crowds to fend off the debt that they have accumulated).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 20:19:00 GMT
Fair point, no easy solution is there.
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Post by jdl on Mar 15, 2020 20:24:14 GMT
Still no announcement from the NL, and we've got a game in two days (or not).
It's like waiting the the proverbial 'other shoe' to drop.
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Post by jdl on Mar 15, 2020 20:27:26 GMT
Thinking about what happens when/if the NL does abandon the season - what do we do with the players? Send them home and just let them have the rest of the season off, or get them in for training as normal? Seems a bit daft training players for nonexistant games, but, on the other hand, it's in our interests (with some players at least) to keep them fit - and presumably the players will want to train as well?
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Post by 61666 on Mar 15, 2020 20:27:53 GMT
A lot of people are going to be affected by this crisis. How many pubs, bars, cafes etc are going to close permanently. Have noticed that Best Western hotels are offering themselves as emergency hospitals - good business methinks as they are not going to see many other guests. Airlines are likewise starting to look very vulnerable, so travel companies will be too. I suppose those who can still work might actually build up savings so holidays will be very popular again when it blows over. As for actual countries, who will likewise rapidly find themselves skint, where/who do they borrow from?
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Post by rollingstone on Mar 15, 2020 20:33:56 GMT
When i passed Hayes travel in the chequers yesterday, they had no customers
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Post by jakeyboi on Mar 15, 2020 20:35:53 GMT
Thinking about what happens when/if the NL does abandon the season - what do we do with the players? Send them home and just let them have the rest of the season off, or get them in for training as normal? Seems a bit daft training players for nonexistant games, but, on the other hand, it's in our interests (with some players at least) to keep them fit - and presumably the players will want to train as well? But what will they be training for? The biggest problem I think is that no one knows how long this virus will last for. Maybe the best solution will be to end the season now, have no relegations but promote the top two teams from each league and then next season have 2 extra relegation places to bring the leagues back to normality. But what the hell do I know.
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Post by jdl on Mar 15, 2020 20:37:18 GMT
Well, we've only got enough bog rolls to last about 10 days, so it better be over by then!
No pain killers in the shops either. Of all the things to not have emergency plans for when you've had over 2 months notice, that seems the daftest.
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Post by jdl on Mar 15, 2020 20:59:20 GMT
Apologies for nws-style multiple posts, but it occurs to me that, if this seaon is cut short, it's actually a bonus for us. It effectively gives us a training season - a chance to rebuild and prepare before our real first season back in the NL. The owners have had a good chance to see how the management and players have performed at NS level, and how their plans have worked out, and how the fans have responded.
But have they learnt from this? Will we start next season by hitting the ground running, not still rebuilding the team, as we did this one? Will we have a definite target, which we'll pull out all the stops to go for, instead of just being happy to end up anywhere above mid-table?
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Post by jdh80 on Mar 15, 2020 23:15:32 GMT
Thinking about what happens when/if the NL does abandon the season - what do we do with the players? Send them home and just let them have the rest of the season off, or get them in for training as normal? Seems a bit daft training players for nonexistant games, but, on the other hand, it's in our interests (with some players at least) to keep them fit - and presumably the players will want to train as well? But what will they be training for? The biggest problem I think is that no one knows how long this virus will last for. Maybe the best solution will be to end the season now, have no relegations but promote the top two teams from each league and then next season have 2 extra relegation places to bring the leagues back to normality. But what the hell do I know. Can't see the premier league wanting that there are enough managers in the top six bitching and moaning about the amount of games they have to play and that would mean that they have an extra four can't see that being agreed to at all. As the premier league won't do it can't see the other leagues doing it and what do you do in the league one to league two issue where bury were expelled leaving league one with 23 and not 24 teams, if you promote two teams it will still be odd numbers so promote three, then promote three from the national league then 1 from each of the nls and nln and then who would be the third team you promote. As i said elsewhere some teams and fans will be majorly pissed off regardless of what happens and the ramifications will be felt in courtrooms as there is just not going to be a solution which will make everyone happy.
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