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Post by Fed up with PC views only on Feb 19, 2020 23:03:43 GMT
The thing is bringbackjay, your posts have a very strong tendency to be ultra critical with neverending moaning about John and Hakan. Pretty obvious you want them out and the sooner the better, your agenda from the beginning has been transparent. It's important to have an agenda. I'm backing BringBackJay. Thanks for your support wolvestone but I’ve no idea how to encourage millennial young players who live on their emotions either - that’s why we need a modern coach who does. Happy to be his Director of Football though 😊
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Post by Nick on Feb 19, 2020 23:05:51 GMT
Tbf i've been very supportive of JS2, but even I was shocked to hear John making the case that Ross Marshall can play as a striker. No he can't John. He looks very decent at Centre Back. Please let him play on his best position.
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Post by Fed up with PC views only on Feb 19, 2020 23:07:13 GMT
Tbf i've been very supportive of JS2, but even I was shocked to hear John making the case that Ross Marshall can play as a striker. No he can't John. He looks very decent at Centre Back. Please let him play on his best position. Moan moan moan you are just so critical Nick 😊😊
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Post by Fed up with PC views only on Feb 19, 2020 23:07:43 GMT
Tbf i've been very supportive of JS2, but even I was shocked to hear John making the case that Ross Marshall can play as a striker. No he can't John. He looks very decent at Centre Back. Please let him play on his best position. Moan moan moan you are just so critical Nick 😊😊 You are of course quite right though
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Post by Rob on Feb 19, 2020 23:10:34 GMT
Ahree with nick, Ross Marshall has looked the real deal at centre back. He shouldn"t be mucked about. Why isn't Olutade getting a look in. Whats the point in bringing him back from L'head abd not giving him a chance ?
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 19, 2020 23:16:45 GMT
It's important to have an agenda. I'm backing BringBackJay. Thanks for your support wolvestone but I’ve no idea how to encourage millennial young players who live on their emotions either - that’s why we need a modern coach who does. Happy to be his Director of Football though 😊 I can do that for you. I've been told I'm an excellent people person. I don't even require a wage so I'll do it for nothing.
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Post by Nick on Feb 19, 2020 23:18:06 GMT
Very amusing, but I don't do I ? Just don't get people who do it all the time but whatever makes floats yer boat I guess. Just cant understand why Olutade doesn't get selected ever and yet Marshall is seen as a player who can play off the striker. Fact is Ross has been emerging as a really decent centre back. He is 200% not a striker Whereas Olutade is 200% a striker. Still I must confess I know as much about football management as bringbackjay which is about sweet FA.
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 19, 2020 23:19:10 GMT
Ahree with nick, Ross Marshall has looked the real deal at centre back. He shouldn"t be mucked about. Why isn't Olutade getting a look in. Whats the point in bringing him back from L'head abd not giving him a chance ? Olutade came on at the Oxford game and looked a joke. Missed two sitters, fell over the ball a couple of times and had a fairly interesting row with Elokobi. Surprised he's still at the club after that and the lateness scandal.
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Post by nws on Feb 20, 2020 0:54:26 GMT
You probably said that tongue in cheek, however there is still a decent chunk of our fanbase who want that to happen and no matter who is in charge if they don't win every game then the knives are out. Jay and the owners are imo not likely to work with eachother ever again, even though the incident that caused the issue didn't directly involve jay it cost the club money and a lack of trust in him by the owners. At the moment the club has no direction there are fans who want us in the football league now, fans happy to consolidate in this league and fans who would be happy going down a few leagues. The club needs to find a direction and needs to find a way to pull all the fans together to take the club forward that is the challenge and if they can find a way to do that then we'd be onto a winner problem is being able to find a way to do that. Are there really? Apart from nws and his fantasy 'things were better in the old days' world, I've never heard anyone suggest we go lower than where we are. It would hardly be an expression of ambition! They have said it but that fact doesn't suit your agenda. The best thing about the 90s was the lack of prem-style histrionics amongst the fanbase. It was actually fun. Anyway, whether we are higher or lower or exactly the same doesn't really bother me. I'll come to the odd game here and there. Other days I'll probably prefer a stroll to the park or something with my little ones or just to watch Herne Bay.
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Post by hongkongstone on Feb 20, 2020 2:01:42 GMT
As a loyal supporter I have bitten my tongue over the management debate up until now but just wanted to get this off of my chest, so here goes.....
HH oversaw Braintree''s relegation from the NL in 2017 and left by 'mutual consent'. He was rehired a year later after their promotion back to NL and oversaw them to the bottom of the table before he left to come here to guide us to the bottom, eventually 4 points behind Braintree!
Also look at Dover last year in the NL. Deep in the relegation zone and below us when both teams decided upon a change of management. As much as I know some people here don't like Hessenthaler he did guide them to a mid-table finish using some of our ex-players and they are still thriving this season. IMHO this is proof that it IS about management and unfortunately I can see little evidence of it at MUFC at the moment.
Am I correct in believing that JS2 contract was only up to the end of this season? What about HH?
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Post by hongkongstone on Feb 20, 2020 2:04:46 GMT
We need some life in the club at the moment to lift the atmosphere! Shall I be more contentious and actually start a mock bring back Jay campaign to really get it going? You probably said that tongue in cheek, however there is still a decent chunk of our fanbase who want that to happen and no matter who is in charge if they don't win every game then the knives are out. Jay and the owners are imo not likely to work with eachother ever again, even though the incident that caused the issue didn't directly involve jay it cost the club money and a lack of trust in him by the owners. At the moment the club has no direction there are fans who want us in the football league now, fans happy to consolidate in this league and fans who would be happy going down a few leagues. The club needs to find a direction and needs to find a way to pull all the fans together to take the club forward that is the challenge and if they can find a way to do that then we'd be onto a winner problem is being able to find a way to do that. Can someone enlighten me as to what the 'incident' was?
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Post by jdl on Feb 20, 2020 2:05:48 GMT
As a loyal supporter I have bitten my tongue over the management debate up until now but just wanted to get this off of my chest, so here goes..... HH oversaw Braintree''s relegation from the NL in 2017 and left by 'mutual consent'. He was rehired a year later after their promotion back to NL and oversaw them to the bottom of the table before he left to come here to guide us to the bottom, eventually 4 points behind Braintree! Also look at Dover last year in the NL. Deep in the relegation zone and below us when both teams decided upon a change of management. As much as I know some people here don't like Hessenthaler he did guide them to a mid-table finish using some of our ex-players and they are still thriving this season. IMHO this is proof that it IS about management and unfortunately I can see little evidence of it at MUFC at the moment. Am I correct in believing that JS2 contract was only up to the end of this season? What about HH? Spot on. What's it like over there at the moment - panicky? Hope you're washing your hands!
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Post by Rob on Feb 20, 2020 8:04:29 GMT
Anyone like to start another rumour about 'the incident' ?
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Post by Fed up with PC views only on Feb 20, 2020 9:15:50 GMT
Very amusing, but I don't do I ? Just don't get people who do it all the time but whatever makes floats yer boat I guess. Just cant understand why Olutade doesn't get selected ever and yet Marshall is seen as a player who can play off the striker. Fact is Ross has been emerging as a really decent centre back. He is 200% not a striker Whereas Olutade is 200% a striker. Still I must confess I know as much about football management as bringbackjay which is about sweet FA. At last Nick something we can agree on! The fun is in thinking we do know a bit about football management when it comes to our own team. Its called being a fan, its what we do! The only place we can pretend we know what we are talking about is on a fans forum - we'd just sound stupid anywhere else! (As my wife keeps reminding me whenever I say "we" about MUFC and then pulls my leg about what position Im playing Saturday or when am I taking my place on the bench as Manager lol). Roll on this forum as a fun place to exchange outrageously uneducated opinions about our beloved football team and how we all think it should be run, who should be picked, how cr*p the Manger is, how awful the pies are (They aren't actually, they are lovely) etc etc etc. Isnt that the point of it?
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Post by hongkongstone on Feb 20, 2020 9:49:26 GMT
As a loyal supporter I have bitten my tongue over the management debate up until now but just wanted to get this off of my chest, so here goes..... HH oversaw Braintree''s relegation from the NL in 2017 and left by 'mutual consent'. He was rehired a year later after their promotion back to NL and oversaw them to the bottom of the table before he left to come here to guide us to the bottom, eventually 4 points behind Braintree! Also look at Dover last year in the NL. Deep in the relegation zone and below us when both teams decided upon a change of management. As much as I know some people here don't like Hessenthaler he did guide them to a mid-table finish using some of our ex-players and they are still thriving this season. IMHO this is proof that it IS about management and unfortunately I can see little evidence of it at MUFC at the moment. Am I correct in believing that JS2 contract was only up to the end of this season? What about HH? Spot on. What's it like over there at the moment - panicky? Hope you're washing your hands! Whilst not wishing to digress too far from the core MUFC discussions on this forum, the situation in HK is that everyone is very nervous. We have had 65 confirmed cases of WuFlu here so far and 2 deaths (WTO gave it a name so as not to associate it with the PRC but no-one is fooled). Everyone in the streets is wearing a mask and whilst it may not protect one does it through an act of social solidarity. As you rightly say frequent hand washing is important as virus can live up to 20 minutes outside of the body and so you don't know if that handpole on the bus you just touched was coughed over by someone a few minutes ago.
We have gone through the ridiculous internet rumour inspired run on face masks and toilet rolls in shops which all of the Epsilon's fell for. The major problem is that there is no business going on at the moment as no-one is coming from overseas and I had some business meetings in UK cancelled this month as they did not want to meet HK people. Even locally a lot of people are working from home and so no meetings or decisions are being taken. Hopefully matters will improve next month and am hoping to get back for 2 Saturday and a Tuesday game during March.
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