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Post by daveu on Jan 30, 2020 22:38:20 GMT
How about we let the owners decide what the club needs. If they decide we need the town end development and come up with a way to fund it, that trumps anything you might think we need in my opinion. In what possible way could I not "let the owners decide"?? You could start an argument in an empty room. Because the owners have already said we need the town end, something you obviously disagree with.
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Post by jdl on Jan 30, 2020 23:04:51 GMT
In what possible way could I not "let the owners decide"?? You could start an argument in an empty room. Because the owners have already said we need the town end, something you obviously disagree with. In what way do I disagree with it, exactly? I do wish you would read what I post and not what you assume I mean. In the initial euphoria of getting into the NL, I was one of the posters on here getting carried away and going on about ground development. And, although I can't see any real chance of a financial justification of a big stand at that end, my dream would certainly be a 'proper' stand, with the changing rooms, club offices, etc built into it - and a consequent expansion of the main stand. However, we are where we are, and, at least until we get back into the NL and build our gates up (or the mythical 'new investor' arrives), there is no money for ground improvements - nor the need, as we are already up to NL standard. If anything was to be built, it would probably be the river side stand, as that's the least expensive option, is revenue earning, and we've already bought the land. But I wouldn't expect any progress on that for at least a year or two, possibly longer. The ground as it is will meet our needs for years to come.
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Post by daveu on Jan 30, 2020 23:35:08 GMT
How is "There are lots of things this club needs well before a hugely expensive redevelopment of the TE" not disagreeing.
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Post by sword65 on Jan 30, 2020 23:39:01 GMT
Nothing to do with this thread but I am listening to Rust in Peace by Megadeth and is wish you too would let it rest in peace.
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Post by hongkongstone on Jan 31, 2020 1:49:03 GMT
Whilst matchday attendances are less than 2000 then there is no financial justification for adding to a theoretical 4200 capacity.
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Post by jdl on Jan 31, 2020 8:46:29 GMT
How is "There are lots of things this club needs well before a hugely expensive redevelopment of the TE" not disagreeing. I was disagreeing with the OP, not the owners (or your idea of what the owners think - I'm sure they agree 100% with my statement). And I'm sure you know this. If you want a pointless argument, nws is still lurking here somewhere.
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Post by daveu on Jan 31, 2020 8:59:01 GMT
How is "There are lots of things this club needs well before a hugely expensive redevelopment of the TE" not disagreeing. I was disagreeing with the OP, not the owners (or your idea of what the owners think - I'm sure they agree 100% with my statement). And I'm sure you know this. If you want a pointless argument, nws is still lurking here somewhere. My idea of? It's down in black and white, unlike most of the so called facts that you post.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 11:19:16 GMT
And how about you pay attention because Terry has already said we need a big stand at that end with facilities in the back. What I 'think' we need is what he's already said we need. Even if Terry hadn't said that, you're allowed to express opinions on this forum and it's my view that is the only way we would be able to complete a facility at The Gallagher that would be suitable for the FL. Frankly it's not rocket science to work it out given the site we have. How about you pay attention to what people actually post before getting on your high horse. I was responding to JDL's assertion that there are a lot of things the club needs before the town end, so was effectively saying the same as you. Yes sorry Dave, I did miss-read your post and thought you were having a pop at me. I've dismounted and tied up up the high horse lol
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Post by shamstone on Jan 31, 2020 11:38:54 GMT
How is "There are lots of things this club needs well before a hugely expensive redevelopment of the TE" not disagreeing. I was disagreeing with the OP, not the owners (or your idea of what the owners think - I'm sure they agree 100% with my statement). And I'm sure you know this. If you want a pointless argument, nws is still lurking here somewhere. He has been a bit quiet. Probably planning a Brexit jamboree
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Post by jdl on Jan 31, 2020 14:24:27 GMT
I was disagreeing with the OP, not the owners (or your idea of what the owners think - I'm sure they agree 100% with my statement). And I'm sure you know this. If you want a pointless argument, nws is still lurking here somewhere. My idea of? It's down in black and white, unlike most of the so called facts that you post. OK, one more nws bite, then that's it. It's down in 'black and white' as a very long-term aim, probably/possibly the last bit of development that will happen at JWW, and, reading between the not very difficult lines, very unlikely ever to happen - as it would require at least L1 type revenues and huge 'investment'. Again, I'm sure you know this as well as I do. As for my 'facts' - if people make assumptions about what my posts mean, there's nothing much I can do about it - assumptions are received, not given.
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Post by sword65 on Jan 31, 2020 14:48:45 GMT
My idea of? It's down in black and white, unlike most of the so called facts that you post. OK, one more nws bite, then that's it. It's down in 'black and white' as a very long-term aim, probably/possibly the last bit of development that will happen at JWW, and, reading between the not very difficult lines, very unlikely ever to happen - as it would require at least L1 type revenues and huge 'investment'. Again, I'm sure you know this as well as I do. As for my 'facts' - if people make assumptions about what my posts mean, there's nothing much I can do about it - assumptions are received, not given. Didnt people used to die of assumption years ago!
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Post by daveu on Jan 31, 2020 15:47:20 GMT
My idea of? It's down in black and white, unlike most of the so called facts that you post. OK, one more nws bite, then that's it. It's down in 'black and white' as a very long-term aim, probably/possibly the last bit of development that will happen at JWW, and, reading between the not very difficult lines, very unlikely ever to happen - as it would require at least L1 type revenues and huge 'investment'. Massive assumption posted as fact. There is no evidence to support it being at the end of a very long list, in fact if an investor came in tomorrow it's more likely to be one of the first objectives. I'm not sure what lines you're reading between because it's clear the owners believe it is required to generate more incomeAgain, I'm sure you know this as well as I do. As for my 'facts' - if people make assumptions about what my posts mean, there's nothing much I can do about it - assumptions are received, not given. Perhaps you should make them a bit clearer then. If you say "we don't want promotion" how are we supposed to know that you're not taking about your own opinion.
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