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Post by 1018 on Jan 1, 2020 11:25:23 GMT
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Post by porkystone on Jan 1, 2020 11:34:30 GMT
Superb stuff - balanced, realistic & forward looking. Brave to pick his 11 of the decade, that's good for a few pub / terrace / stand debates !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 11:43:05 GMT
not a bad all-time eleven, obviously lots of people won't agree with some of his selections but sometimes it is a personal thing with favourite players. I'd have picked Loza instead of Hines up front, because I thought he was sensational until his ankle injury came back and knackered him. Not too much to argue about with the rest, for me.
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Post by porkystone on Jan 1, 2020 12:28:08 GMT
Interesting that Sonny Miles makes it in. Says a lot for his commitment, spirit & drive off the pitch / behind the scenes as well as his contributions on the pitch.
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Post by daveu on Jan 1, 2020 13:08:04 GMT
Interesting that Sonny Miles makes it in. Says a lot for his commitment, spirit & drive off the pitch / behind the scenes as well as his contributions on the pitch. As posted in another topic, I was surprised we let Miles go after a very good season for us, including a fantastic performance against Stevenage. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2020 22:08:13 GMT
Interesting that Sonny Miles makes it in. Says a lot for his commitment, spirit & drive off the pitch / behind the scenes as well as his contributions on the pitch. As posted in another topic, I was surprised we let Miles go after a very good season for us, including a fantastic performance against Stevenage. He played very well today, was far better than our centre backs. |
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Post by Dan on Jan 1, 2020 22:34:26 GMT
Sonny was released by JS1 because he wasnt considered competitive enough for the NLS.
Mmm !
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Post by hongkongstone on Jan 2, 2020 2:25:15 GMT
Recognising that Oliver is a progressive forward thinking business leader and reflecting on the previous 10 years progress is now not the time to carry out a benchmarking exercise of the MUFC organisation against other similar success stories?
For example Bromley are currently 3rd in the NL with no bigger crowds than us when we were in the same league, but as far as I am aware do not have a 'Sugar Daddy' so what are they doing right and what can we learn from that?
Another one to look at may be Wycombe Wanderers who once were also once a Conference team but now are top of EFL1 and still only have gates of around 5000. Or even Accrington Stanley from the same league?
Just saying.
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Post by hongkongstone on Jan 2, 2020 2:45:15 GMT
Maybe it is just me but was it telling that he made a point of not choosing any players from the last 12 months?
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Post by sword65 on Jan 2, 2020 10:04:54 GMT
Recognising that Oliver is a progressive forward thinking business leader and reflecting on the previous 10 years progress is now not the time to carry out a benchmarking exercise of the MUFC organisation against other similar success stories? For example Bromley are currently 3rd in the NL with no bigger crowds than us when we were in the same league, but as far as I am aware do not have a 'Sugar Daddy' so what are they doing right and what can we learn from that? Another one to look at may be Wycombe Wanderers who once were also once a Conference team but now are top of EFL1 and still only have gates of around 5000. Or even Accrington Stanley from the same league? Just saying. I am not sure if Mark Goldberg is still involved with Bromley but he was seriously minted. In my opinion Bromley are one of the clubs throwing serious money at reaching for the stars and should they make it good luck to them but if they fall short then I fear for their well being in the future. Next year if they are still national league could see the budget scaled down and though Maidstones attendances have held up pretty well I think Bromleys could well nose dive back under the four figure bracket especially if they are not winning. |
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Post by jdl on Jan 2, 2020 11:19:31 GMT
Recognising that Oliver is a progressive forward thinking business leader and reflecting on the previous 10 years progress is now not the time to carry out a benchmarking exercise of the MUFC organisation against other similar success stories? For example Bromley are currently 3rd in the NL with no bigger crowds than us when we were in the same league, but as far as I am aware do not have a 'Sugar Daddy' so what are they doing right and what can we learn from that? Another one to look at may be Wycombe Wanderers who once were also once a Conference team but now are top of EFL1 and still only have gates of around 5000. Or even Accrington Stanley from the same league? Just saying. Thoughtful post. Many on here won't like it because they'll read it as an attack on O&T, but it's actually something any organisation, especially a commercial one, should be doing as routine. There are significant differences between our situation and other local clubs of a similar status - for instance, all our directors' financial input went into building and improving the stadium, whereas most new investors inherit a stadium (or the local authority owns the ground), so they are able to put most of their 'investment' into improving the squad. And, of course, we have a sustainable business model - which prioritises survival over quick success. But still a comparison with clubs like Bromley or Dover - or even Dartford - could reveal lessons we could learn, or things we could do better. I suspect Bromley DO effectively have a sugar daddy, so it would be nice to know exactly how their finances 'work'. And Dover certainly ARE dependent on a regular input of unearned money. Perhaps Dartford are actually the better comparison at the moment? Not everyone expected us to do well this season after last year's trauma, and many will profess themselves happy with a mid-table finish. But how many of them would have expected the New Year to see Dartford deservedly in the playoff place that was ours for the taking yesterday afternoon? |
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Post by hongkongstone on Jan 3, 2020 0:38:24 GMT
@jdl, you are correct that it is not a criticism of O&T, more of a case when a business has stabilised itself (i.e. facilities and support in place), how do we move to the next level? Hence, as businesses do, you benchmark against others (successful ones) to see where you may be able to improve.
@sword, thanks for the explanation about Bromley. I was not aware of that. Either way it was JS1 who said he was impressed with their set up after his brief time there.
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Post by jdh80 on Jan 3, 2020 1:50:15 GMT
Recognising that Oliver is a progressive forward thinking business leader and reflecting on the previous 10 years progress is now not the time to carry out a benchmarking exercise of the MUFC organisation against other similar success stories? For example Bromley are currently 3rd in the NL with no bigger crowds than us when we were in the same league, but as far as I am aware do not have a 'Sugar Daddy' so what are they doing right and what can we learn from that? Another one to look at may be Wycombe Wanderers who once were also once a Conference team but now are top of EFL1 and still only have gates of around 5000. Or even Accrington Stanley from the same league? Just saying. I am not sure if Mark Goldberg is still involved with Bromley but he was seriously minted. In my opinion Bromley are one of the clubs throwing serious money at reaching for the stars and should they make it good luck to them but if they fall short then I fear for their well being in the future. Next year if they are still national league could see the budget scaled down and though Maidstones attendances have held up pretty well I think Bromleys could well nose dive back under the four figure bracket especially if they are not winning. You also have Cray Wanderers and Crystal Palace ladies playing out of Hayes Lane, I'm guessing that this would generate a decent enough income to help as well. |
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Post by Raymondo316 on Jan 3, 2020 2:57:39 GMT
Recognising that Oliver is a progressive forward thinking business leader and reflecting on the previous 10 years progress is now not the time to carry out a benchmarking exercise of the MUFC organisation against other similar success stories? For example Bromley are currently 3rd in the NL with no bigger crowds than us when we were in the same league, but as far as I am aware do not have a 'Sugar Daddy' so what are they doing right and what can we learn from that? Another one to look at may be Wycombe Wanderers who once were also once a Conference team but now are top of EFL1 and still only have gates of around 5000. Or even Accrington Stanley from the same league? Just saying. I am not sure if Mark Goldberg is still involved with Bromley but he was seriously minted. In my opinion Bromley are one of the clubs throwing serious money at reaching for the stars and should they make it good luck to them but if they fall short then I fear for their well being in the future. Next year if they are still national league could see the budget scaled down and though Maidstones attendances have held up pretty well I think Bromleys could well nose dive back under the four figure bracket especially if they are not winning. Mark Goldberg is now the owner & manager of Welling. |
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Post by sword65 on Jan 3, 2020 9:54:30 GMT
I am not sure if Mark Goldberg is still involved with Bromley but he was seriously minted. In my opinion Bromley are one of the clubs throwing serious money at reaching for the stars and should they make it good luck to them but if they fall short then I fear for their well being in the future. Next year if they are still national league could see the budget scaled down and though Maidstones attendances have held up pretty well I think Bromleys could well nose dive back under the four figure bracket especially if they are not winning. Mark Goldberg is now the owner & manager of Welling. Cheers raymondo I didnt know that. |
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