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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 25, 2019 7:08:22 GMT
We are exactly where the owners can afford to be, they cannot afford for us to go higher, personally I think they are playing a dangerous game in thinking that they will always generate good crowds but there is a big chance that a lot of fans will get tired quickly an look elsewhere for Saturday afternoon football fix. We are a club on the edge of trouble bigger than a lot of people imagined. More money is needed into the club sooner rather than later. More assumptions spouted out as the truth. We can afford to be in the NL, like some of the smaller teams that are in it. You have control of you own budget and so we can spend as much or as little as you like. Just need the right players and management of those players.
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Post by 61666 on Nov 25, 2019 9:05:49 GMT
No team has a 'right' to be anywhere. Looking across the leagues, we find Bournemouth (ground capacity less than 10k) coping well in the Premier League, but the likes of Coventry and Sunderland (to name but two) scratching around in lower leagues, despite being big city clubs. Meanwhile FGR are doing well in L2, despite being in little more than a large village. On that basis, Maidstone COULD be in L2 or L1, but we are not, because football is a curious blend of resources and skill, in both management and players, with the right blend difficult to find. Let's face it, if it was easy, all teams would win every game. Supporting your local team is about putting up with all the ups and downs. While we are having a few of the latter recently, we are still in the FA cup and FAT; were we to win our game in hand, we would be in a play off position. There have probably been more goals and wins at home thus far that the whole of last season and maybe the one before too. So, could do better, but it ain't that bad. Is it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 9:44:40 GMT
We are exactly where the owners can afford to be, they cannot afford for us to go higher, personally I think they are playing a dangerous game in thinking that they will always generate good crowds but there is a big chance that a lot of fans will get tired quickly an look elsewhere for Saturday afternoon football fix. We are a club on the edge of trouble bigger than a lot of people imagined. More money is needed into the club sooner rather than later. "playing a dangerous game..." If they wanted to play a dangerous game they would spunk money they and the club cannot afford on players who will get us promoted, and take us down the tree lined cul-de-sac to bankruptcy. We started this season quite poorly, but it has got better. If it wasn't for the conceding of a few late goals we'd be in the play-off's, and yet here we are with people dooming the owners, management, players and everything else to hell. It really isn't that bad. It is only November. We have to cut out giving away silly goals - that is literally the only thing stopping us from winning most of our games at the moment. Problems with certain individual players will be sorted by John and Hak, even if that means moving them on. Seriously, we will be okay. We might not get promoted this season - it isn't the end of the world. A lot of people come to The Gallagher to watch because it is a nice little stadium, very conveniently located, and they get to support their local team. Who really wants to go travelling miles to watch a team you don't support just because you think they might play a bit better? Yes I know, some will do that, but not as many as you are implying.
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Post by Dan on Nov 25, 2019 16:03:10 GMT
Well said Jayser !
Really surprised by jakeyboi's comments about the owners 'playing a dangerous game' and 'being on the edge of trouble bigger than people imagine'.
Now those statements are rubbish and total scaremongering.
Imo, our owners manage the club brilliantly, they minimise risks, take sensible financial management decisions and always put the stability and security of the club first.
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Post by yorkshirestone on Nov 25, 2019 16:03:39 GMT
Having actually managed to get to a game at the Gallagher for the first time in yonks I was really disappointed in the lack of consistency showed by the Stones. Not enough movement off the ball, the Darts to their credit always seemed to have someone ready to snaffle up the wayward passes when they inevitably happened.
That said I really enjoyed the afternoon, and even got a titter of approval from some young fans when the ref was seen to hear me question whether or not he was getting a lift home on the Dart's bus.
Spitfire lounge was a beer desert though. Not a drop of bitter to be had. 2/10 (very nice lady served me) but must try harder with stock control.
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Post by shamstone on Nov 25, 2019 16:15:57 GMT
Well said Jayser ! Really surprised by jakeyboi's comments about the owners 'playing a dangerous game' and 'being on the edge of trouble bigger than people imagine'. Now those statements are rubbish and total scaremongering. Imo, our owners manage the club brilliantly, they minimise risks, take sensible financial management decisions and always put the stability and security of the club first. Just his passion coming through I guess. Nothing wrong with that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 16:45:57 GMT
Well said Jayser ! Really surprised by jakeyboi's comments about the owners 'playing a dangerous game' and 'being on the edge of trouble bigger than people imagine'. Now those statements are rubbish and total scaremongering. Imo, our owners manage the club brilliantly, they minimise risks, take sensible financial management decisions and always put the stability and security of the club first. Just his passion coming through I guess. Nothing wrong with that No, nothing wrong with being passionate but just as he is allowed to be forthright with his views, some of us are allowed to disagree with them.
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Post by shamstone on Nov 25, 2019 16:46:58 GMT
Just his passion coming through I guess. Nothing wrong with that No, nothing wrong with being passionate but just as he is allowed to be forthright with his views, some of us are allowed to disagree with them. Of course
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Post by sword65 on Nov 25, 2019 17:22:50 GMT
Well said Jayser ! Really surprised by jakeyboi's comments about the owners 'playing a dangerous game' and 'being on the edge of trouble bigger than people imagine'. Now those statements are rubbish and total scaremongering. Imo, our owners manage the club brilliantly, they minimise risks, take sensible financial management decisions and always put the stability and security of the club first. We hope!
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Post by sword65 on Nov 25, 2019 17:26:52 GMT
Having actually managed to get to a game at the Gallagher for the first time in yonks I was really disappointed in the lack of consistency showed by the Stones. Not enough movement off the ball, the Darts to their credit always seemed to have someone ready to snaffle up the wayward passes when they inevitably happened. That said I really enjoyed the afternoon, and even got a titter of approval from some young fans when the ref was seen to hear me question whether or not he was getting a lift home on the Dart's bus. Spitfire lounge was a beer desert though. Not a drop of bitter to be had. 2/10 (very nice lady served me) but must try harder with stock control. The spitfire lounge is a typical Shepherd Neame dive and less and less people are using it especially after the game when all they are interested in is getting rid of you quickly. The beer is overpriced Sheps rubbish and I only have one whilst watching the results.
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 25, 2019 18:43:59 GMT
Well said Jayser ! Really surprised by jakeyboi's comments about the owners 'playing a dangerous game' and 'being on the edge of trouble bigger than people imagine'. Now those statements are rubbish and total scaremongering. Imo, our owners manage the club brilliantly, they minimise risks, take sensible financial management decisions and always put the stability and security of the club first. Bick last summer I had a very deep conversation with Terry away from the ground he openly admitted that they cost of the club being in the National league is beyond there budget they simply cannot afford for the club to be there hence the need for another investor, when I say that it becomes a danger is what happens towards the end of the season when let,s imagine the club are on the brink of promotion an another expense both Terry an Oliver cannot afford what will happen then? As football fans we have to have our dreams each season on what we may or may not achieve so now we wait for an investor, an along with that comes risks, IMO I cannot imagine anyone investing millions without equal power to the other two, so it is riddled with risks an dangers. Never have I said that Terry anOliver have not done a great job but they have reached that point where they have no where else to go time will tell I hope I,m wrong an someone comes along with lots of cash available an they have no desire to have any input into the club other than cash. And theres hundreds of clubs looking for owners like that.
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 25, 2019 18:45:45 GMT
Having actually managed to get to a game at the Gallagher for the first time in yonks I was really disappointed in the lack of consistency showed by the Stones. Not enough movement off the ball, the Darts to their credit always seemed to have someone ready to snaffle up the wayward passes when they inevitably happened. That said I really enjoyed the afternoon, and even got a titter of approval from some young fans when the ref was seen to hear me question whether or not he was getting a lift home on the Dart's bus. Spitfire lounge was a beer desert though. Not a drop of bitter to be had. 2/10 (very nice lady served me) but must try harder with stock control. The spitfire lounge is a typical Shepherd Neame dive and less and less people are using it especially after the game when all they are interested in is getting rid of you quickly. The beer is overpriced Sheps rubbish and I only have one whilst watching the results. It,s been ages since I,ve been in the lounge an had to wait to get served place always seems empty an as for the beer I reserve judgment.
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 25, 2019 18:48:36 GMT
We are exactly where the owners can afford to be, they cannot afford for us to go higher, personally I think they are playing a dangerous game in thinking that they will always generate good crowds but there is a big chance that a lot of fans will get tired quickly an look elsewhere for Saturday afternoon football fix. We are a club on the edge of trouble bigger than a lot of people imagined. More money is needed into the club sooner rather than later. More assumptions spouted out as the truth. We can afford to be in the NL, like some of the smaller teams that are in it. You have control of you own budget and so we can spend as much or as little as you like. Just need the right players and management of those players. I suggest you ask the question to Terry if the club can afford to be in the National league because it was he who told me they simply cannot affoed the expense of that league so seeing as it,s money from his bank account he would know better than you or I.
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Post by daveu on Nov 25, 2019 20:48:43 GMT
More assumptions spouted out as the truth. We can afford to be in the NL, like some of the smaller teams that are in it. You have control of you own budget and so we can spend as much or as little as you like. Just need the right players and management of those players. I suggest you ask the question to Terry if the club can afford to be in the National league because it was he who told me they simply cannot affoed the expense of that league so seeing as it,s money from his bank account he would know better than you or I. They afforded it OK for the first two years. What he probably meant was that they couldn't afford to compete in the top half. But you put whatever negative spin on it you like. Some of us prefer to be a bit more optimistic.
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Post by jakeyboi on Nov 25, 2019 21:06:52 GMT
I suggest you ask the question to Terry if the club can afford to be in the National league because it was he who told me they simply cannot affoed the expense of that league so seeing as it,s money from his bank account he would know better than you or I. They afforded it OK for the first two years. What he probably meant was that they couldn't afford to compete in the top half. But you put whatever negative spin on it you like. Some of us prefer to be a bit more optimistic. Dave I am telling it exactly how it was told to me I have no need nor desire to add any negative spin at all, Terry said they could not afford to stay in that league an he wanted the club to stay at this level an not go any higher, now if you think I have put a negative spin on that then thats your right, I,d be more than happy to stand in front of Terry an call him a damn liar if he said anything any different. To me the only people that suffer in situations like this are the fans an that is what happens at clubs all over the world. Time will tell but I stand by what he said to me.
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