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Weymuff
Aug 3, 2019 22:21:09 GMT
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Post by jdl on Aug 3, 2019 22:21:09 GMT
We haven't been good at set pieces for ages. Years even. Was disappointed to see corners v Southend not only being over hit, but nobody beyond the far post to take any advantage from it. To me, this is basic common sense and either the wing back or opposite wing should be waiting beyond the far side of the goal area to knock the ball back in again if it is either overhit or flicked away by a defender. That we don't do it now, didn't last season, nor even in Jay's time I find extraordinary. Be fair though, it's not as if it's something you can practise during training.
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Post by unturnedstone on Aug 3, 2019 22:30:59 GMT
We haven't been good at set pieces for ages. Years even. Was disappointed to see corners v Southend not only being over hit, but nobody beyond the far post to take any advantage from it. To me, this is basic common sense and either the wing back or opposite wing should be waiting beyond the far side of the goal area to knock the ball back in again if it is either overhit or flicked away by a defender. That we don't do it now, didn't last season, nor even in Jay's time I find extraordinary. Be fair though, it's not as if it's something you can practise during training. In fairness our pitch is pretty narrow. A corner towards the back post at the Gallagher is the equivalent of the near post at some grounds.
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Post by HartleyHare on Aug 3, 2019 22:37:13 GMT
Be fair though, it's not as if it's something you can practise during training. In fairness our pitch is pretty narrow. A corner towards the back post at the Gallagher is the equivalent of the near post at some grounds. Surely a quick glance towards the goal / area to aim for is all that’s required there though ? I mean, to be able to gauge the distance from corner flag to goal and decide how hard you’re going to need to kick the ball ?
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Weymuff
Aug 3, 2019 22:39:57 GMT
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Post by binsey on Aug 3, 2019 22:39:57 GMT
What season we in ? Hard to tell same bollocks
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Post by unturnedstone on Aug 3, 2019 22:48:52 GMT
In fairness our pitch is pretty narrow. A corner towards the back post at the Gallagher is the equivalent of the near post at some grounds. Surely a quick glance towards the goal / area to aim for is all that’s required there though ? I mean, to be able to gauge the distance from corner flag to goal and decide how hard you’re going to need to kick the ball ? You'd think so. Plenty of time to get it right.
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Weymuff
Aug 3, 2019 23:24:05 GMT
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Post by sword65 on Aug 3, 2019 23:24:05 GMT
Well I have just got in from the magnificent Duvet Dogs gig and I have had time to digest our performance today. First of all I am still getting used to who is who so I maybe a little bit wrong. So let's start with the keeper who done very little wrong and didn't have much chance with either goal the only downside imo is I do not like keepers who like to continually fist the ball. Onto the defence ,Pennel at left back looked out of his depth and will need to improve. George was pretty solid but was at fault for the first. The big lunk with the pony tail looked ok but Hoyte was not much I am afraid. He did manage a few heads on goal so there is hope he can eventually get one on target. Midfield no.7 may as well have been on the bench for what good he done. No.8 Khan? I thought looked quite useful and I think he will improve with time. Corner was I am sorry to say quite hopeless especially taking corners. Amaluzor is class and will score a hatful of goals before we lose him in January. The 10. Allen? has got something about him and will be more than useful. Our centre forward name unknown by me was totally unfit and so hard to judge him as yet. There were times when we attacked down the wing we looked awesome but there was no end product. My immediate feeling is that we should sign Mclure and play him for Corne. Overall I think Weymouths settled side looked a lot better than us. We deserved to lose but I saw quite a few positives to give us hope in the coming months
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Post by nws on Aug 3, 2019 23:37:46 GMT
The definition of stupidity is doing basically the same wrong thing twice. Yet time and time again he came on and basically hoofed it with no direction. You can’t refer to the previous regime, none of them were here. Call me old fashioned but if I have a player who in 45 minutes showed enough of himself at set pieces he was awful I wouldn’t play him again. Aren't you referring to Einstein? That was the definition of insanity and it was doing the same thing over and over again not just twice.
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Post by nws on Aug 3, 2019 23:39:16 GMT
Well. I am just back from a 2-1 away win...except I was in the away end at Blackburn v Charlton. A much happier day for me by the sounds of it. Still, I'm sure it will get better...Dave U has said it will.
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Post by 1018 on Aug 4, 2019 8:45:25 GMT
I thought that the sides were evenly matched until we scored. I then expected the promised (by JS2) fitness & stamina to kick in and that we would hold out for a win & maybe add another goal. Exactly the opposite happened as Weymouth appeared to be the fitter & more motivated team. Edwards should have been subbed immediately after we scored as he looked to be out on his feet after about 60 minutes.
Impressed by 5 players - Cole, Johnson, Elokobi, Allen & Amaluzor. The rest have something to prove. As others have said, our dead-ball play was awful, wasted free-kicks and over-hit corners. I think some players struggle with the narrow pitch and unusual bounce of the artificial surface.
If their Centre-Forward had been playing for us then the result would have been reversed as we still don't have a genuine striker. I note that Pigott, Wraight, Pavey & Cassidy all scored yesterday.
The next two games are going to be a real test.
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Weymuff
Aug 4, 2019 8:49:57 GMT
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Post by Nick on Aug 4, 2019 8:49:57 GMT
Dave U is well known for his wildly optimistic and rose tinted views about all things MUFC. After all what could be better than losing our first home match this season at Fortress Gallagher. Seems like Saturday was a mix of promising and disappointing performances from individuals, often described by supporters by the number they wore on their shirts. Hopefully anonymity will soon disappear to be replaced by something more personal to the player. Welling away looks tougher than Weymouth at home. Thinks I need to borrow some of Dave's positive thinking.
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Weymuff
Aug 4, 2019 9:08:34 GMT
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Post by hammerstone on Aug 4, 2019 9:08:34 GMT
The definition of stupidity is doing basically the same wrong thing twice. Yet time and time again he came on and basically hoofed it with no direction. You can’t refer to the previous regime, none of them were here. Call me old fashioned but if I have a player who in 45 minutes showed enough of himself at set pieces he was awful I wouldn’t play him again. Aren't you referring to Einstein? That was the definition of insanity and it was doing the same thing over and over again not just twice. Probably! I don’t think even Einstein could plot a trajectory for Corne to follow for his set pieces though
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Post by softlad on Aug 4, 2019 9:26:19 GMT
Don’t get to many games any more but was there yesterday. Having heard about the limited time together, and being a natural pessimist I predicted a 1-1 before kick off. Best though, not to read too much into early games with a new team. Norwich were awful for the first few weeks of last season and they managed to sort themselves out.
Cole looked ok but he doesn’t see the whole pitch. Time and again in the first half when pressed from their right flank, if he’d opened up his body, he had a simple ball out to Hoyte but with his blinkers on he hit long balls out to the left, often into touch.
It looked like the team have done ‘shape’ work, which in practice means defensive shape work. The trouble was, they had difficulty in transitions both to and from attack.
The front three behind Edwards went wide in attack so the full backs weren’t sure whether to push on and the two sitting midfielders got stuck in no-mans land. JS2 spent a lot of time trying to tell them where to be. At half time, they clearly worked on this and Corne found better positions in the half spaces on the left at the start of he second half.
We seemed to tire badly in the second half whereas Weymouth brought on fresh legs and tweaked their formation to gain control of midfield and we had no answer. To be fair, their goal was a fantastic bit of striking.
Amaluzor had a good game and Allen looked decent. Edwards worked hard without reward but was done after an hour. The centre backs marshalled well but lack of pace could be an issue. Khan showed glimpses of what he might be, but I suspect would be better as an 8 in a three.
Overall, we need to find a way if moving from defence to attack without pinging poor balls to a front man half the size of the centre backs. And a bigger squad if we are too frightened to make subs at the moment.
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Weymuff
Aug 4, 2019 13:46:08 GMT
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Post by jdl on Aug 4, 2019 13:46:08 GMT
It could be worse...
Anyone looking for an off-piste positive to take from yesterday might like to glance at the NL.
Fleet had a player sent off after 9 mins and lost 4-1 at home. And are currently bottom of the table.
(Cue the usual cries of "I don't give a f**k about anyone else other than Maidstone"...)
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Weymuff
Aug 4, 2019 13:52:13 GMT
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Post by Nick on Aug 4, 2019 13:52:13 GMT
Did Jonathan Edwards miss a load of pre season training ? Why was he knackered after 60 minutes ?
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Weymuff
Aug 4, 2019 14:15:30 GMT
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Post by sword65 on Aug 4, 2019 14:15:30 GMT
Did Jonathan Edwards miss a load of pre season training ? Why was he knackered after 60 minutes ? Have we signed a forward who is crocked or a crock of shit ,time will tell
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