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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 20:12:53 GMT
Interesting thought experiment to imagine an actual British PL - Rangers and Celtic invited in 1st season, then automatic promotion/relegation (non-geographical) from then on. People used to say it wouldn't work because only Celtic and Rangers would be good enough (and it would effectively kill Scottish football). But that was before the massive TV money the PL gets these days. Imagine teams like Hearts and Aberdeen with the prospect of that sort of money... But, of course, Brexit will bugger up any chance of this ever happening... Not the word I would use to describe this thread.   You secretly love it! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 5:49:41 GMT
We shouldn’t have Welsh teams in the English league, never mind advocating Scottish teams
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 10:58:20 GMT
We shouldn’t have Welsh teams in the English league, never mind advocating Scottish teams Yeah and tell Guernsey to bugger off out of the Bostik league as well |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 13:44:56 GMT
Once you've got a spreadsheet...
The first 6 steps of football, based on attendances - and where NL clubs would end up:
PL
Manchester United ( PL 1 ) 74,474
Arsenal ( PL 2 ) 59,937
Tottenham Hotspur ( PL 3 ) 59,651
West Ham United ( PL 4 ) 56,905
Manchester City ( PL 5 ) 53,906
Liverpool ( PL 6 ) 52,596
Newcastle United ( PL 7 ) 51,119
Chelsea ( PL 8 ) 40,486
Everton ( PL 9 ) 38,825
Leeds United ( CH 1 ) 32,630
Aston Villa ( CH 2 ) 32,596
Leicester City ( PL 10 ) 31,944
Wolverhampton Wanderers ( PL 11 ) 31,072
Cardiff City ( PL 12 ) 31,054
Brighton & Hove Albion ( PL 13 ) 30,569
Sunderland ( L1 1 ) 30,128
Southampton ( PL 14 ) 29,630
Nottingham Forest ( CH 3 ) 27,533
Derby County ( CH 4 ) 25,737
Crystal Palace ( PL 15 ) 25,659
CH
Norwich City ( CH 5 ) 25,139
Sheffield United ( CH 6 ) 24,521
Fulham ( PL 16 ) 24,429
Stoke City ( CH 7 ) 24,231
West Bromwich Albion ( CH 8 ) 23,623
Sheffield Wednesday ( CH 9 ) 23,468
Huddersfield Town ( PL 17 ) 22,805
Middlesbrough ( CH 10 ) 22,785
Birmingham City ( CH 11 ) 21,727
Bristol City ( CH 12 ) 21,011
Watford ( PL 18 ) 20,223
Burnley ( PL 19 ) 20,189
Swansea City ( CH 13 ) 19,412
Portsmouth ( L1 2 ) 18,333
Ipswich Town ( CH 14 ) 17,399
Bradford City ( L1 3 ) 16,034
Blackburn Rovers ( CH 15 ) 14,529
Millwall ( CH 16 ) 14,057
Reading ( CH 17 ) 14,047
Bolton Wanderers ( CH 18 ) 14,027
Preston North End ( CH 19 ) 13,329
Queens Park Rangers ( CH 20 ) 13,246
Hull City ( CH 21 ) 12,650
Coventry City ( L1 4 ) 11,712
L1
Barnsley ( L1 5 ) 11,551
Wigan Athletic ( CH 22 ) 11,359
AFC Bournemouth ( PL 20 ) 10,587
Charlton Athletic ( L1 6 ) 10,354
Brentford ( CH 23 ) 10,123
Rotherham United ( CH 24 ) 9,279
Plymouth Argyle ( L1 7 ) 9,231
Luton Town ( L1 8 ) 9,020
Lincoln City ( L2 1 ) 8,741
Bristol Rovers ( L1 9 ) 8,347
Doncaster Rovers ( L1 10 ) 7,913
Milton Keynes Dons ( L2 2 ) 7,205
Peterborough United ( L1 11 ) 7,178
Southend United ( L1 12 ) 6,867
Oxford United ( L1 13 ) 6,857
Swindon Town ( L2 3 ) 6,297
Shrewsbury Town ( L1 14 ) 6,111
Tranmere Rovers ( L2 4 ) 5,998
Notts County ( L2 5 ) 5,890
Gillingham ( L1 15 ) 5,593
Wycombe Wanderers ( L1 16 ) 5,119
Northampton Town ( L2 6 ) 5,006
Leyton Orient ( NL 1 ) 4,980
Wrexham ( NL 2 ) 4,872
L2
Grimsby Town ( L2 7 ) 4,703
Walsall ( L1 17 ) 4,613
Chesterfield ( NL 3 ) 4,572
Port Vale ( L2 8 ) 4,493
Mansfield Town ( L2 9 ) 4,243
AFC Wimbledon ( L1 18 ) 4,213
Oldham Athletic ( L2 10 ) 4,185
Exeter City ( L2 11 ) 4,171
Carlisle United ( L2 12 ) 4,132
Scunthorpe United ( L1 19 ) 4,015
Cambridge United ( L2 13 ) 4,004
Crewe Alexandra ( L2 14 ) 3,799
Blackpool ( L1 20 ) 3,604
Bury ( L2 15 ) 3,454
Fleetwood Town ( L1 21 ) 3,447
Colchester United ( L2 16 ) 3,435
Rochdale ( L1 22 ) 3,394
Hartlepool United ( NL 4 ) 3,243
Newport County ( L2 17 ) 3,211
Burton Albion ( L1 23 ) 3,151
Stockport County ( NN 1 ) 3,149
Yeovil Town ( L2 18 ) 3,099
Cheltenham Town ( L2 19 ) 2,673
Forest Green Rovers ( L2 20 ) 2,655
NL
Salford City ( NL 5 ) 2,589
York City ( NN 2 ) 2,518
Stevenage ( L2 21 ) 2,490
Hereford ( NN 3 ) 2,478
Accrington Stanley ( L1 24 ) 2,428
Maidstone United ( NL 6 ) 2,285
Macclesfield Town ( L2 22 ) 2,148
Crawley Town ( L2 23 ) 2,143
Morecambe ( L2 24 ) 1,874
Sutton United ( NL 7 ) 1,818
Torquay United ( NS 1 ) 1,790
Aldershot Town ( NL 8 ) 1,767
FC United of Manchester ( NN 4 ) 1,765
Eastleigh ( NL 9 ) 1,734
Chester ( NN 5 ) 1,734
Harrogate Town ( NL 10 ) 1,720
FC Halifax Town ( NL 11 ) 1,695
AFC Fylde ( NL 12 ) 1,651
Woking ( NS 2 ) 1,642
Kidderminster Harriers ( NN 6 ) 1,606
Chorley ( NN 7 ) 1,505
Darlington ( NN 8 ) 1,461
Maidenhead United ( NL 13 ) 1,446
Ebbsfleet United ( NL 14 ) 1,436
NN
AFC Telford United ( NN 9 ) 1,407
Barrow ( NL 17 ) 1,296
Boston United ( NN 10 ) 1,137
Altrincham ( NN 11 ) 1,083
Solihull Moors ( NL 20 ) 1,070
Southport ( NN 12 ) 1,034
Spennymoor Town ( NN 13 ) 873
Gateshead ( NL 23 ) 780
St Albans City ( NS 11 ) 702
Guiseley ( NN 14 ) 688
Blyth Spartans ( NN 15 ) 682
Leamington ( NN 16 ) 659
Nuneaton Borough ( NN 17 ) 621
Brackley Town ( NN 18 ) 587
Hemel Hempstead Town ( NS 16 ) 564
Alfreton Town ( NN 19 ) 550
Bradford (Park Avenue) ( NN 20 ) 540
Curzon Ashton ( NN 21 ) 534
Gloucester City ( NS 18 ) 350
Oxford City ( NS 19 ) 349
Hungerford Town ( NS 20 ) 324
Ashton United ( NN 22 ) 314
NS
Bromley ( NL 15 ) 1,432
Havant & Waterlooville ( NL 16 ) 1,331
Dagenham & Redbridge ( NL 18 ) 1,269
Barnet ( NL 19 ) 1,263
Billericay Town ( NS 3 ) 1,214
Dartford ( NS 4 ) 1,111
Dover Athletic ( NL 21 ) 992
Bath City ( NS 5 ) 954
Wealdstone ( NS 6 ) 942
Slough Town ( NS 7 ) 865
Braintree Town ( NL 22 ) 820
Chelmsford City ( NS 8 ) 787
Dulwich Hamlet ( NS 9 ) 770
Weston-super-Mare ( NS 10 ) 735
Welling United ( NS 12 ) 669
Boreham Wood ( NL 24 ) 641
Eastbourne Borough ( NS 13 ) 626
Hampton & Richmond Borough ( NS 14 ) 570
Concord Rangers ( NS 17 ) 477
East Thurrock United ( NS 21 ) 298
Chippenham Town ( NS 15 ) 566
Truro City ( NS 22 ) 166
(I had to play fast and loose with some 'southern' clubs, to get the NN and NS to 22 clubs each.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 19:08:10 GMT
We shouldn’t have Welsh teams in the English league, never mind advocating Scottish teams If Wales had never thrown their lot in with England, I suppose their league Would have been at least as strong as Scotland. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 20:25:36 GMT
I have a vague memory, back in the Alliance/Conference days, of Welsh teams being not allowed to play in English leagues (by order of the WFA?), except those in the PL (then 1st Div). I think Bangor had to leave the Conference because of this?
Anyone else know what I'm on about?!
Presumably this no longer applies today?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 23:01:39 GMT
Not the word I would use to describe this thread. You secretly love it! No. I fight boredom wherever I see it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 23:10:35 GMT
No. I fight boredom wherever I see it. To the inquisitive mind, nothing is boring. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 23:24:56 GMT
No. I fight boredom wherever I see it. To the inquisitive mind, nothing is boring. Wrong again. The inquisitive mind seeks interesting things. The boring mind causes desolation and vast quantities of nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 0:29:15 GMT
To the inquisitive mind, nothing is boring. Wrong again. The inquisitive mind seeks interesting things. The boring mind causes desolation and vast quantities of nothing. Boredom is essentially a construct of the mind - it is not as a result of the environment. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 19:30:59 GMT
Wrong again. The inquisitive mind seeks interesting things. The boring mind causes desolation and vast quantities of nothing. Boredom is essentially a construct of the mind - it is not as a result of the environment. Jesus it's Freud v Jung winner to take on Camus in the final |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 19:41:41 GMT
Boredom is essentially a construct of the mind - it is not as a result of the environment. Jesus it's Freud v Jung winner to take on Camus in the final I hope I'm Jung! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 19:52:39 GMT
Jesus it's Freud v Jung winner to take on Camus in the final I hope I'm Jung! Not as Jung as you used to be😊 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 21:05:34 GMT
I am more in the Freudian corner myself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2018 22:11:10 GMT
Not as Jung as you used to be😊 I set them up, you knock them in! |
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