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Post by moley on Mar 14, 2019 20:24:06 GMT
If only one American would stop enjoying Twitter, that could only be good for the world! Robert Mueller might call it evidence
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Post by jdl on Mar 14, 2019 23:04:37 GMT
There used to be a football ground somewhere in the south-east called The Athletic Ground. Never known any athletic meetings being held there but they did hold the odd greyhound race meeting. Now if I could only remember where. JDL? Was that anywhere near the Rugby League ground? Were there plans to have American Football there as well, or did I dream that? Lots of strange things went on in the JT years...
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Post by sword65 on Mar 15, 2019 2:29:55 GMT
Although we won't have so many segregated games, I think the club will carry on in much the same way, with the 'barrier' still there and away fans housed in that end of the EE. Too much hassle to change established procedures and working methods - and we're unlikely to need the whole EE, after all. Still, I'm looking forward to being able to use the back exit (fnar, fnar), and having a loo within Old Man's Bladder distance. It may vary according to police advice. If the Mangels get promoted for example, I think segregation will be a certainty! The Mangels aren't good enough to come up this year but you are right they would definitely be segregated as a fair percentage of their fans like to cause trouble for the sake of it. A couple of weeks ago I saw them play Merstham and twice stewards were called in to lead Tonbridge fans to a different part of the ground.
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Post by Scot Stone on Mar 15, 2019 2:53:47 GMT
Was that anywhere near the Rugby League ground? The first team to hold a season-long tenancy at the Athletic Ground was the splinter group Maidstone RFC (MRFC) in 1895/96 – their 2nd season as a separate entity from Maidstone FC (MFC). By the end of that season, the former MFC rugby captain, Kenneth McAlpine, by then chairman of Mote Cricket Club, had offered a tenancy to MRFC at Mote Park.
MFC, at their post-season EGM & knowing that they would become insolvent if they continued playing [soccer], voted to quit & be wound-up. An audit found that they were still solvent so the assets were re-merged with MRFC to, once again, form a rugby playing entity called Maidstone FC but from now on based at Mote Park. MFC, having finished bottom of the inaugural season of the Kent League (in which they had used the moniker ‘United’ in an attempt to entice support from the players of the junior status clubs),were replaced in the senior ranks by both Maidstone Invicta & Maidstone Church Institute – both to play in the newly formed 2nd division of the KL but both retaining their playing membership in the Maidstone & District League. Neither performed well in KL2 with Invicta being the stronger. With that situation continuing into the following season, on Sat 14th November 1896, after beating West End 5-0 in the M&D, “a very animated discussion at the Brewer St. Working Men’s Club” resulted in a decision to turn professional with immediate effect – thus forcing a withdrawal from the strictly amateur M&D. At the end of that 1896/97 season Maidstone Invicta changed their name to Maidstone United. MUFC moved to the Athletic Ground in September 1898 – had they not done so it had already been announced that the ground would have closed. Sat 10th September 1898 being the first match, a 3-0 defeat of Swanscombe (the reigning champions) in the KL.
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Post by jdl on Mar 15, 2019 12:12:14 GMT
Was that anywhere near the Rugby League ground? The first team to hold a season-long tenancy at the Athletic Ground was the splinter group Maidstone RFC (MRFC) in 1895/96 – their 2nd season as a separate entity from Maidstone FC (MFC). By the end of that season, the former MFC rugby captain, Kenneth McAlpine, by then chairman of Mote Cricket Club, had offered a tenancy to MRFC at Mote Park. MFC, at their post-season EGM & knowing that they would become insolvent if they continued playing [soccer], voted to quit & be wound-up. An audit found that they were still solvent so the assets were re-merged with MRFC to, once again, form a rugby playing entity called Maidstone FC but from now on based at Mote Park. MFC, having finished bottom of the inaugural season of the Kent League (in which they had used the moniker ‘United’ in an attempt to entice support from the players of the junior status clubs),were replaced in the senior ranks by both Maidstone Invicta & Maidstone Church Institute – both to play in the newly formed 2nd division of the KL but both retaining their playing membership in the Maidstone & District League. Neither performed well in KL2 with Invicta being the stronger. With that situation continuing into the following season, on Sat 14th November 1896, after beating West End 5-0 in the M&D, “a very animated discussion at the Brewer St. Working Men’s Club” resulted in a decision to turn professional with immediate effect – thus forcing a withdrawal from the strictly amateur M&D. At the end of that 1896/97 season Maidstone Invicta changed their name to Maidstone United. MUFC moved to the Athletic Ground in September 1898 – had they not done so it had already been announced that the ground would have closed. Sat 10th September 1898 being the first match, a 3-0 defeat of Swanscombe (the reigning champions) in the KL. Interesting stuff - where did you find that?
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Post by hammerstone on Mar 15, 2019 12:43:15 GMT
When I saw this thread I thought it was to congratulate me on developing the ground in football manager, up to 9k capacity now.
I have also renamed the ground the Wetherspoons arena, but struggling to balance the books losing about 7m a month.
Tough at the top
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 13:02:08 GMT
It may vary according to police advice. If the Mangels get promoted for example, I think segregation will be a certainty! The Mangels aren't good enough to come up this year but you are right they would definitely be segregated as a fair percentage of their fans like to cause trouble for the sake of it. A couple of weeks ago I saw them play Merstham and twice stewards were called in to lead Tonbridge fans to a different part of the ground. Well if you say so, but as it stands they're looking strong enough for a play-off place.
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Post by jdh80 on Mar 15, 2019 19:35:13 GMT
When I saw this thread I thought it was to congratulate me on developing the ground in football manager, up to 9k capacity now. I have also renamed the ground the Wetherspoons arena, but struggling to balance the books losing about 7m a month. Tough at the top You're really Glen Tamplin, i wish to claim my prize..
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Post by moley on Mar 15, 2019 20:24:04 GMT
Was that anywhere near the Rugby League ground? The first team to hold a season-long tenancy at the Athletic Ground was the splinter group Maidstone RFC (MRFC) in 1895/96 – their 2nd season as a separate entity from Maidstone FC (MFC). By the end of that season, the former MFC rugby captain, Kenneth McAlpine, by then chairman of Mote Cricket Club, had offered a tenancy to MRFC at Mote Park. MFC, at their post-season EGM & knowing that they would become insolvent if they continued playing [soccer], voted to quit & be wound-up. An audit found that they were still solvent so the assets were re-merged with MRFC to, once again, form a rugby playing entity called Maidstone FC but from now on based at Mote Park. MFC, having finished bottom of the inaugural season of the Kent League (in which they had used the moniker ‘United’ in an attempt to entice support from the players of the junior status clubs),were replaced in the senior ranks by both Maidstone Invicta & Maidstone Church Institute – both to play in the newly formed 2nd division of the KL but both retaining their playing membership in the Maidstone & District League. Neither performed well in KL2 with Invicta being the stronger. With that situation continuing into the following season, on Sat 14th November 1896, after beating West End 5-0 in the M&D, “a very animated discussion at the Brewer St. Working Men’s Club” resulted in a decision to turn professional with immediate effect – thus forcing a withdrawal from the strictly amateur M&D. At the end of that 1896/97 season Maidstone Invicta changed their name to Maidstone United. MUFC moved to the Athletic Ground in September 1898 – had they not done so it had already been announced that the ground would have closed. Sat 10th September 1898 being the first match, a 3-0 defeat of Swanscombe (the reigning champions) in the KL. I was making facetious reference to Kent Invicta RLFC, but many thanks for the history lesson
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Post by hammerstone on Mar 15, 2019 20:36:16 GMT
When I saw this thread I thought it was to congratulate me on developing the ground in football manager, up to 9k capacity now. I have also renamed the ground the Wetherspoons arena, but struggling to balance the books losing about 7m a month. Tough at the top You're really Glen Tamplin, i wish to claim my prize.. Third in the championship in 2022 so far. Got a 35 year old Mark Noble and David Liuz pulling the strings, about the only fun I’ve the last few months seeing the black and amber running about!
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Post by jdh80 on Mar 15, 2019 21:30:46 GMT
You're really Glen Tamplin, i wish to claim my prize.. Third in the championship in 2022 so far. Got a 35 year old Mark Noble and David Liuz pulling the strings, about the only fun I’ve the last few months seeing the black and amber running about! I was referring to the amount of debt you were racking up, 9k capacity and over 7mill debt, is Diane Abbott your teams accountant??
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Post by hammerstone on Mar 16, 2019 7:56:59 GMT
Third in the championship in 2022 so far. Got a 35 year old Mark Noble and David Liuz pulling the strings, about the only fun I’ve the last few months seeing the black and amber running about! I was referring to the amount of debt you were racking up, 9k capacity and over 7mill debt, is Diane Abbott your teams accountant?? I think we’ve exceeded the FFP by some distance and the club as a result are under a transfer embargo, it goes bad to worse. I take full responsibility, it’s mostly wages which are about 4m a week. Stephane ElSharraway and Iheanacho are the clubs top earners in about 90k a week each
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Post by Scot Stone on Mar 18, 2019 13:12:37 GMT
I was making facetious reference to Kent Invicta RLFC, but many thanks for the history lesson Yes Moley, I was well aware that you were referring to the rugby league side - I do remember them appearing on Grandstand in t' Challenge Cup against Castleford in '84
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Post by Scot Stone on Mar 18, 2019 13:18:37 GMT
The first team to hold a season-long tenancy at the Athletic Ground was the splinter group Maidstone RFC (MRFC) in 1895/96 – their 2nd season as a separate entity from Maidstone FC (MFC). ... Interesting stuff - where did you find that? Info from the contemporary newspapers: Maidstone & Kentish Journal [openly conservative leaning] Kent & Sussex Courier both from a subscription website with access to the British Library digitised newspapers collection & free subscription (once registered) from ukpressonline.co.uk South Eastern Gazette [as Maidstone Gazette until 1851] Sadly, I don't have access to the Kent Messenger & Maidstone Telegraph [est 1859 as Maidstone Telegraph & openly liberal leaning, as KM & MT from 1871] which might prove more fertile for the early history of our club whose supporters were decidedly liberal leaning - for those with access to a working TARDIS, the 1889 Kent Junior Cup tie on Penenden Heath against MCI is certainly one not to be missed! (if only StonesTV had the footage) [will have to post the reports of that 1889 encounter on a separate thread]
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Post by stainese on Mar 18, 2019 14:31:37 GMT
The Athletic Ground That was a venue for the All England tennis championship before it moved to Wimbledon
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