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Post by 61666 on Sept 15, 2017 6:15:59 GMT
Presumably, the new stand can be segregated proportionally, based on likely number of away fans attending? A space about three metres square for BWood, up to a full third for Orient and the like? However, behind adjacent to our Kop is much more intimidating that being at the other end of the ground so ultimately the Town End should be the away end and the sooner a proper study is done on how to make that happen, the better.
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Post by davec on Sept 15, 2017 6:36:02 GMT
How about having a special shitgibbon enclosure outside the ground We already have that it,s called "The Main Stand" That would be the Main Stand that pays £200k up front to fund the club
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Post by Bernie on Sept 15, 2017 7:02:19 GMT
Presumably, the new stand can be segregated proportionally, based on likely number of away fans attending? A space about three metres square for BWood, up to a full third for Orient and the like? However, behind adjacent to our Kop is much more intimidating that being at the other end of the ground so ultimately the Town End should be the away end and the sooner a proper study is done on how to make that happen, the better. Put barriers between the toilets and sweet shop, and in the Town End towards the Spitfire Lounge. If necessary, also give visiting fans the Riverside towards the halfway line.
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Post by daveu on Sept 15, 2017 7:51:53 GMT
Presumably, the new stand can be segregated proportionally, based on likely number of away fans attending? A space about three metres square for BWood, up to a full third for Orient and the like? However, behind adjacent to our Kop is much more intimidating that being at the other end of the ground so ultimately the Town End should be the away end and the sooner a proper study is done on how to make that happen, the better. Put barriers between the toilets and sweet shop, and in the Town End towards the Spitfire Lounge. If necessary, also give visiting fans the Riverside towards the halfway line. Look, it just ain't gonna happen. For one thing we are obliged to offer at least some seats to away support, and for another, the new stand was designed to be segregated. I'm fed up with hearing all this wah wah wah we're gonna give up some of the new stand. Just bloody stop whining and get over it.
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Post by steveh21 on Sept 15, 2017 7:53:33 GMT
So we are all to be dictated to by a handful of idiots I am very disappointed I am still unclear why the club cannot continue to make these decisions on a match by match basis. Surely the way to operate at non-league level is to remove the people causing the trouble if it happens (which is very very rare). Are we going to segregate when we play a Ryman South team in the FA Cup Fourth Qualifying Round?
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Post by senna34165 on Sept 15, 2017 8:02:10 GMT
So we are all to be dictated to by a handful of idiots I am very disappointed Afraid so. I believe alot of those who cause issues can be identified the club but they don't want to and don't seem to want to address. As an example, swearing and abusive language is banned under ground rules, however radiates from a consistent number of fans in consistent locations and overlooked. However as soon as a comment is made by an isolated fan, and ironically not foul or abusive or a beach of regulations, then said person is jumped on. Woking fans are totally wrong for their behaviour and should go to court. I believe that as soon as fans start chanting swearing goading at each other then action should be taken at that stage )there is an escalation, warning process) as this is what escalates to crowd trouble as we saw. As such, without changes in the approach to stewarding, the risks remain not withstanding segregation.
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Post by senna34165 on Sept 15, 2017 8:05:07 GMT
How about having a special shitgibbon enclosure outside the ground We already have that it,s called "The Main Stand" Is that chip on your shoulder heavy jackeyboi 😉
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Post by senna34165 on Sept 15, 2017 8:08:58 GMT
Inevitable, I suppose, but very, very sad. The end of the non-league era. I'd like to have seen more effort and imagination put into finding ways of continuing non-segregation instead, rather than just taking the 'easy' way out. Most visiting supporters don't give us any trouble, and of those few clubs who do, the trouble makers are a tiny minority, who could easily be dealt with. Instead of showing the rest of football how it could be done, how it can be different, we've just given in and accepted that visiting fans are trouble. We are now 'them and us' - that is not football supporting as we have always known it. On a more practical note - now that this has happened and games will be forever segregated, the club needs to give serious thought to how this is to be managed. The current arrangements were a stop-gap and not at all satisfactory. Our biggest asset, the Elvis End stand, will now always be unavailable to us in full, the away supporters who can't fit in their EE allocation will continue to get a crap experience, stuck in that corner, and the main standers will continue to be cut off from their nearest exits and half-time food and drink. If you were planning the stadium from the start with segregation in mind, this is not how you would do it. Until such time as the TE is replaced by a new stand, it should clearly be the away end - a much better experience for the away support, more safely and easily segregated (with no loss of terrace/seats,)the full EE available for the Ultra Bouncers, and a much better arrangement/experience for the main standers. This is all well and good saying this but you haven't thought about what will happen after the games. It will mean home & away fans mixing as they are let out of the stadium which, if there has been provocation during the game, will then spill out into the car park and surrounding areas. This could result in children being caught up in any fracas and the potential to damage cars.
agree although police are in the immediste vicinity.l after games. See my last post, jump on incitement at the cause, remove from ground and if they hang about looking for trouble, police arrest.
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Post by senna34165 on Sept 15, 2017 8:11:49 GMT
Put barriers between the toilets and sweet shop, and in the Town End towards the Spitfire Lounge. If necessary, also give visiting fans the Riverside towards the halfway line. Look, it just ain't gonna happen. For one thing we are obliged to offer at least some seats to away support, and for another, the new stand was designed to be segregated. I'm fed up with hearing all this wah wah wah we're gonna give up some of the new stand. Just bloody stop whining and get over it. You can always choose not to read it DaveU? And if you are going to be melodramatic, we insist on a digital / on line "flick"of the hair please 😊
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Post by senna34165 on Sept 15, 2017 8:18:07 GMT
So we are all to be dictated to by a handful of idiots I am very disappointed I am still unclear why the club cannot continue to make these decisions on a match by match basis. Surely the way to operate at non-league level is to remove the people causing the trouble if it happens (which is very very rare). Are we going to segregate when we play a Ryman South team in the FA Cup Fourth Qualifying Round? See my post two down from this original.
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Post by tim on Sept 15, 2017 8:34:03 GMT
Presumably, the new stand can be segregated proportionally, based on likely number of away fans attending? A space about three metres square for BWood, up to a full third for Orient and the like? However, behind adjacent to our Kop is much more intimidating that being at the other end of the ground so ultimately the Town End should be the away end and the sooner a proper study is done on how to make that happen, the better. Put barriers between the toilets and sweet shop, and in the Town End towards the Spitfire Lounge. If necessary, also give visiting fans the Riverside towards the halfway line. The problem with that I believe, is if the home fans cant enter/exit on the river side, the capacity of the ground is drastically reduced on safety grounds, as the gap between the main stand and pitch is too narrow! I'm sorry I'm with Dave on this, it's a non runner!
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Post by overthehillstone on Sept 15, 2017 9:13:27 GMT
So the moron's screw it up for everyone else, only exit out of the ground is the town end gate, brilliant!!
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Post by jakeyboi on Sept 15, 2017 9:19:15 GMT
We already have that it,s called "The Main Stand" Is that chip on your shoulder heavy jackeyboi 😉 I quite like carrying around, in fact on match day,s I only carry it for about 85mins rather than the full 90
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Sept 15, 2017 9:23:34 GMT
It's understandable as many Stones fan as possible want to use this amazing stunning new stand! And to make way for various numbers of away fans and forcing many use the substandard town end with such poor views does seem a little unfair especially on lager away followings. The stand was probably built at the wrong end of the ground! So now if there is any way however difficult of keeping the elvis end only for Stones fans only maybe it should be looked at.
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Post by jt on Sept 15, 2017 9:56:50 GMT
We could give borehamwood half of the family enclosure
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