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Post by jdl on May 15, 2020 21:37:43 GMT
L2 sides vote to end their season (L1 still undecided) - they have also stated that their preference would be for no relegation (EFL ulimately to decide). If this happens, presumably they'll take just one promoted club from the NL.
So, what happens at the other end? With a regionalised second division, they can't promote just one team up to the NL, so does this mean the NL playing with 23 teams next season?
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Post by jdl on May 18, 2020 22:27:08 GMT
Watson leaving Fleet
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Post by jdh80 on May 19, 2020 4:13:19 GMT
L2 sides vote to end their season (L1 still undecided) - they have also stated that their preference would be for no relegation (EFL ulimately to decide). If this happens, presumably they'll take just one promoted club from the NL. So, what happens at the other end? With a regionalised second division, they can't promote just one team up to the NL, so does this mean the NL playing with 23 teams next season? No one knows, but what happens when lge 1 votes for no relegation where do the league 2 Team's go? Everything has a knock on affect from the top down, which is why everything is waiting on the premier league if they choose to relegate teams and accept promoted teams, then this will have a a ripple affect through the leagues, however if they choose not to relegate anyone and choose not to allow a new team to join the the only thing the fa need to worry about is do they replace bury by promoting a nl team, as all the teams will be in the same leagues as they were at the start of the 19/20 season.
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Post by Tstone on May 19, 2020 8:50:43 GMT
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Post by sword65 on May 19, 2020 9:30:07 GMT
L2 sides vote to end their season (L1 still undecided) - they have also stated that their preference would be for no relegation (EFL ulimately to decide). If this happens, presumably they'll take just one promoted club from the NL. So, what happens at the other end? With a regionalised second division, they can't promote just one team up to the NL, so does this mean the NL playing with 23 teams next season? No one knows, but what happens when lge 1 votes for no relegation where do the league 2 Team's go? Everything has a knock on affect from the top down, which is why everything is waiting on the premier league if they choose to relegate teams and accept promoted teams, then this will have a a ripple affect through the leagues, however if they choose not to relegate anyone and choose not to allow a new team to join the the only thing the fa need to worry about is do they replace bury by promoting a nl team, as all the teams will be in the same leagues as they were at the start of the 19/20 season. If,if,if,if,when,when,when,when,why, why,why,why,lawsuit,lawsuit,lawsuit, lawsuit,chaos,chaos,chaos, CHAOS.
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Post by jdl on May 19, 2020 21:35:57 GMT
Cha, cha, cha?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 9:03:59 GMT
How long does it take to get a squad together - couple of months? As things gradually get safer I can envisage something like this:
All clubs, top to bottom of the system, have to confirm readiness to participate in 20/21 season by [for example] 31st July; some will have folded forever, some will want to take a year out (not necessarily to go backpacking though) ; reconstitute leagues accordingly, moving teams upwards on 19/20 PPG; season starts on [for example] 26 Sep or 3 Oct.
I think we'll be in a "stay at home if you feel vulnerable while others get on with it" kind of world by then - not that I'm in any hurry to go to an office or restaurant in particular, but I am missing football and pubs.
There will inevitably be a club somewhere who says they're ready and then can't make it, leaving gaps. 20/21 will be a disjointed, weird season whatever happens.
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Post by jdl on May 20, 2020 10:27:32 GMT
I doubt if anyone has any real idea what's happening at our level. The NL is still waiting on the EFL But if L2 does as it's reported they want to do and finishes the season on PPG, with no relegation, that leaves them in a pickle. Presumably Barrow will go up, but no one else, and no one will go down (as you can't replace one with two). Which leaves us with a 23 team NL.
Beyond that it's anyone's guess. A shorter season? Only play each other once? Split leagues/divisions into smaller regional leagues? Social distancing in the grounds - in which case, what happens to MS ST holders?
But will even those sort of arrangements be enough to keep clubs going? Players will presumably have to accept lower salaries, many will be unable to find clubs. 'Full time' clubs will have to go part-time. Only those with additional 'investment' will be able to do much more - but will they bother, given the uncertainties re promotion, etc?
But, whatever is done, the FA deadline is 25/5, so it has to be sorted out by Monday.
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Post by jdl on May 20, 2020 10:36:02 GMT
What puzzles me most at the moment is the difference in how clubs are reacting. Judging from what little news we're getting, some clubs seem to be operating more or less as normal - sacking/recruiting managers, releasing players, even taking on new players - whilst others, like ours, seem to have gone into hibernation, with no news and nothing appearing to happen.
Presumably, most of the players have gone now, with only 4 or 5 still on contract? And everyone else seems to have gone home!
Hopefully, some sort of planning is being done, and the NL will announce what it's doing for next season this week. And then clubs will follow with announcements of their own - with luck, early next week.
Then, at last, we'll have some idea of what, if any, football we'll be watching next season.
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Post by pwoodstone on May 20, 2020 11:16:32 GMT
I expect the players have all been spoken to and when it comes to planning for a new season the clubs are going to have a blank canvas to build from. I can see a lot of out players wanting to stay as I can’t see too many teams out there paying much for full time players (at this level of player anyway).
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Post by Tstone on May 20, 2020 14:20:17 GMT
I doubt if anyone has any real idea what's happening at our level. The NL is still waiting on the EFL But if L2 does as it's reported they want to do and finishes the season on PPG, with no relegation, that leaves them in a pickle. Presumably Barrow will go up, but no one else, and no one will go down (as you can't replace one with two). Which leaves us with a 23 team NL. Beyond that it's anyone's guess. A shorter season? Only play each other once? Split leagues/divisions into smaller regional leagues? Social distancing in the grounds - in which case, what happens to MS ST holders? But will even those sort of arrangements be enough to keep clubs going? Players will presumably have to accept lower salaries, many will be unable to find clubs. 'Full time' clubs will have to go part-time. Only those with additional 'investment' will be able to do much more - but will they bother, given the uncertainties re promotion, etc? But, whatever is done, the FA deadline is 25/5, so it has to be sorted out by Monday. What if league 1 vote the same way as L2 - yes for promotion to the Chumpionship and no relegation?
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Post by sword65 on May 20, 2020 15:35:42 GMT
I doubt if anyone has any real idea what's happening at our level. The NL is still waiting on the EFL But if L2 does as it's reported they want to do and finishes the season on PPG, with no relegation, that leaves them in a pickle. Presumably Barrow will go up, but no one else, and no one will go down (as you can't replace one with two). Which leaves us with a 23 team NL. Beyond that it's anyone's guess. A shorter season? Only play each other once? Split leagues/divisions into smaller regional leagues? Social distancing in the grounds - in which case, what happens to MS ST holders? But will even those sort of arrangements be enough to keep clubs going? Players will presumably have to accept lower salaries, many will be unable to find clubs. 'Full time' clubs will have to go part-time. Only those with additional 'investment' will be able to do much more - but will they bother, given the uncertainties re promotion, etc? But, whatever is done, the FA deadline is 25/5, so it has to be sorted out by Monday. What if league 1 vote the same way as L2 - yes for promotion to the Chumpionship and no relegation? It doesnt affect us so why worry,be happy😁
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Post by jdh80 on May 20, 2020 19:53:29 GMT
What puzzles me most at the moment is the difference in how clubs are reacting. Judging from what little news we're getting, some clubs seem to be operating more or less as normal - sacking/recruiting managers, releasing players, even taking on new players - whilst others, like ours, seem to have gone into hibernation, with no news and nothing appearing to happen. Presumably, most of the players have gone now, with only 4 or 5 still on contract? And everyone else seems to have gone home! Hopefully, some sort of planning is being done, and the NL will announce what it's doing for next season this week. And then clubs will follow with announcements of their own - with luck, early next week. Then, at last, we'll have some idea of what, if any, football we'll be watching next season. The first paragraph, what makes you think the club have not been working behind the scenes putting into place plan a for this situation or plan b for this situation. Once there is a clear structure in place and we know what is happening then we might get a few updates fairly quickly, the problem is everyone is hanging around waiting for the premier league, as whatever they decide will filter through the leagues...
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Post by sword65 on May 20, 2020 20:17:32 GMT
What puzzles me most at the moment is the difference in how clubs are reacting. Judging from what little news we're getting, some clubs seem to be operating more or less as normal - sacking/recruiting managers, releasing players, even taking on new players - whilst others, like ours, seem to have gone into hibernation, with no news and nothing appearing to happen. Presumably, most of the players have gone now, with only 4 or 5 still on contract? And everyone else seems to have gone home! Hopefully, some sort of planning is being done, and the NL will announce what it's doing for next season this week. And then clubs will follow with announcements of their own - with luck, early next week. Then, at last, we'll have some idea of what, if any, football we'll be watching next season. The first paragraph, what makes you think the club have not been working behind the scenes putting into place plan a for this situation or plan b for this situation. Once there is a clear structure in place and we know what is happening then we might get a few updates fairly quickly, the problem is everyone is hanging around waiting for the premier league, as whatever they decide will filter through the leagues... The Premier league said they will play all remaining games at grounds far away from teams fanbases, so Manchester United will be playing at Old Trafford.
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Post by jdl on May 20, 2020 22:33:41 GMT
I doubt if anyone has any real idea what's happening at our level. The NL is still waiting on the EFL But if L2 does as it's reported they want to do and finishes the season on PPG, with no relegation, that leaves them in a pickle. Presumably Barrow will go up, but no one else, and no one will go down (as you can't replace one with two). Which leaves us with a 23 team NL. Beyond that it's anyone's guess. A shorter season? Only play each other once? Split leagues/divisions into smaller regional leagues? Social distancing in the grounds - in which case, what happens to MS ST holders? But will even those sort of arrangements be enough to keep clubs going? Players will presumably have to accept lower salaries, many will be unable to find clubs. 'Full time' clubs will have to go part-time. Only those with additional 'investment' will be able to do much more - but will they bother, given the uncertainties re promotion, etc? But, whatever is done, the FA deadline is 25/5, so it has to be sorted out by Monday. What if league 1 vote the same way as L2 - yes for promotion to the Chumpionship and no relegation? Doesn't really matter - promotion to L1 and to replace Bury, but no relegation = 23 team L2, or Barrow promoted to make up the numbers and 23 team NL.
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