Bromleys Fortress Stadium and ours with a view to expansion

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The exact reasoning was given at the meeting. Something to do with the water company need 24/7 access incase of emergency. If it's blocked they can rip up whatever is in the way. Worry is they'd trash stand / step / whatever then dump it on pitch & ruin that rather than taking time to unbolt and place carefully etc. Something along those lines.

Although I was only half listening at this point.

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So are you saying that's it due to an UNDERGROUND Water main?

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Damn you and damn my sausage fingers JT

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A f**king GREAT WATER MAIN infact

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Water main or not, it is obvious that the river side of the ground is too narrow for terracing as deep as that at Bromley. At best you could only have two tiers, given the fact you would also want to maintain a path at the front for those just passing through. Anyhow, as it appears we can't do that anyway, it's not worth discussing further.

The FA Cup game showed that above circa 2,000 - 2,100 supporters, there is a problem in that there isn't enough rail space for all fans to get a good view. I had a good view on Saturday until I went with my mate to get a burger at half time; we lost our space and ended up peering between other people for the entire second half, BUT aside from big cup games, and when we play the likes of Margate at home, we don't get crowds that big on normal match days. The additional seating planned will shunt the problem on down the road for a bit in my view and so I think the directors have got it about right at the moment.

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So during a game a large group of ground workers could enter the ground, with out notice or without paying with diggers and dumpers and start digging up the pathway and ripping everthing apart, while using the pitch as a dump, not even given us the time to push away an possible small units on wheels is that the gest of it how have I missed something ?

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Almost correct actually! They have 24/7 access to maintain or renew their main so if something's in the way it would be moved. However they cannot cause wilful/ unnecessary damage whilst they do this.
Same scenario as when they dig up the road for emergency repair I guess.

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But the only thing that would be in the way on a non first team match time is pathway and the dugouts or possibly the outer fence or pitch perimeter, but with short notice the pitch perimeter and dugouts could be moved I believe.
Very small wheel in wheel out units with only two or three steps might only be there three hours per week during a game then nicely packed away out of any harm seems logically to me.

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The concern was always that they could damage the pitch because if you we're to move any object down that side there isn't anywhere else to dump it!
If the pitch was damaged there'd be no view for anyone

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Why keep arguing about it. It's been answered. The club has looked into it and it isn't a goer, otherwise they would have done it. If I remember correctly, it was all looked into at the end of our first season home, at the same time that the two ends were extended.

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When permission for the ground was given that NOTHING can be placed on the riverside except a layer of tarmac or paving fpr the required hardstanding unless the water main is moved first.
Oliver and the building consultants pointed out that any steps temporary or otherwise would be a minefield due to current health and safety and give very little gain as they believe that extending the main stand and possibly the town end will give extra view places for 500 people alleviating the problems around the sides we currently experience.
This is a first stage in a four stage plan that will increase capacity up to acceptable levels for league football.
The capacity will not be increased by this first stage due to rules over turnstiles required however should we win promotion this will change. ( 1 Turnstile per 600 supporters are the requirement and segregation has to be possible). Future development phases will see development of North then South and then finally the riverside.

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Nov 1, 2014 7:38:04 GMT tim said:

The concern was always that they could damage the pitch because if you we're to move any object down that side there isn't anywhere else to dump it!
If the pitch was damaged there'd be no view for anyone

As usual very good points there mate I would rather not see the pitch at all then have no football.

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Nov 1, 2014 7:43:23 GMT @mellow said:

When permission for the ground was given that NOTHING can be placed on the riverside except a layer of tarmac or paving fpr the required hardstanding unless the water main is moved first.
Oliver and the building consultants pointed out that any steps temporary or otherwise would be a minefield due to current health and safety and give very little gain as they believe that extending the main stand and possibly the town end will give extra view places for 500 people alleviating the problems around the sides we currently experience.
This is a first stage in a four stage plan that will increase capacity up to acceptable levels for league football.
The capacity will not be increased by this first stage due to rules over turnstiles required however should we win promotion this will change. ( 1 Turnstile per 600 supporters are the requirement and segregation has to be possible). Future development phases will see development of North then South and then finally the riverside.

That's what I understood, an extra 350 seats and extra terracing at Town End will make a very big improvement on the most popular match days. I don't think anybody at the club says they haveall the answers. They'll listen to any sensible ideas we come up with.
sAs i write this they probably have a team of enginneers working on a 40 meter set of steps on wheels or perhaps steps with an inflatable surround like a hover craft so the steps can be floated away if needed or maybe some with a self-destruct button so they can be cleanly destroyed without damaging the pitch if the water main springs a leak? ( or if the crowd gets rowdy...)

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Nov 1, 2014 7:40:52 GMT daveu said:

Why keep arguing about it. It's been answered. The club has looked into it and it isn't a goer, otherwise they would have done it. If I remember correctly, it was all looked into at the end of our first season home, at the same time that the two ends were extended.

Crowd's have dropped off the only reason for that is many family's have stopped coming.
The owners have been amazing and I for one love them for what thay have given us and also for what is planed.
But try to instead of looking at the match day experience from a middle aged long haired guy with a reserved space in a sold out stand.
A try to put your in the position of a younger guy say with a six and eight year old sons both who love football but not yet got a love for any one team, you were at the GS last weekend but the boys dident want to stand on the pitch rail for over and hour before kick off and you can't get a seat and you dont feel safe in the town end so are you bringing the boys again today?
The new stand is most welcome addition as long it is Not all sold to season tickets holders who then dont use them, why not use the whole stand to OAPs or families who only pay on the day it might stop family's going to london games as extending the town end won't help families with little one's.

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Ob1, I'm well aware that the view isn't great if we get more than about 1600 in. That's not the point I'm making. What I'm saying is that keep asking the same thing over and over again just because you don't like the answer won't make any difference.