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Post by roystyboy on Mar 16, 2014 20:12:54 GMT
As mentioned in another thread i think the club may need to sort out some kind of area for away fans for this game.W e really dont need any more beer throwing incidents over away fans and also run the risk of trouble as not all supporters are as good as the ones who visited from Dulwich this is not saying the Bognor fans would cause any problems.Lets just be sensible and prepared
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Post by medestan on Mar 16, 2014 21:31:59 GMT
I don,t think the bognor fans covered themselves in glory at dulwich the other week , letting stink bombs off in the bar , ripping up advertising hoardings and homophobic chants .so it might pay to , dare I say , for us to consider segregation , especially what could hinge on the result of the game and the size of the crowd and we ourselves attract a small minority of idiots at the big games
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Post by southwick1 on Mar 16, 2014 22:00:42 GMT
I don,t think the bognor fans covered themselves in glory at dulwich the other week , letting stink bombs off in the bar , ripping up advertising hoardings and homophobic chants .so it might pay to , dare I say , for us to consider segregation , especially what could hinge on the result of the game and the size of the crowd and we ourselves attract a small minority of idiots at the big games Bognor fans are OK in my experience.They certainly are not another Wealdstone Mob out for a fight.They sometimes get a bit silly on the train home though!! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 22:28:05 GMT
No need for segregation. Last year we had more away fans at the Gallagher and the only incident we had was against Leatherhead. We even hosted a Sittigbourne derby match on New Year's Day/Boxing Day and nothing at all happened.
The point I'm trying to get at, is the fact it's the teams we are playing now have a lot more 'die hard' fans, and if it's going to 'kick-off' they aren't going to back down. It's a learning curve for the Stones.
But yeah, no need for segregation. Hopefully we can wipe their smug faces (Bognor) off when they actually realise, that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get our entire home crowd behind one goal.
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Post by nws on Mar 16, 2014 22:28:21 GMT
As mentioned in another thread i think the club may need to sort out some kind of area for away fans for this game. W e really dont need any more beer throwing incidents over away fans and also run the risk of trouble as not all supporters are as good as the ones who visited from Dulwich this is not saying the Bognor fans would cause any problems.Lets just be sensible and prepared Oh dear, Roysty, now Oxfordinmaid will have to hate you as well |
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Post by ontheup on Mar 17, 2014 11:55:59 GMT
Interesting one, and whilst I'm all for the non league ethic of fans "mixing" I do think we need to be able to provide a comfortable experience for away fans.
In certain quarters there is a lot of talk about how we don't change ends etc etc which goes against the traditions of non league football, I've even seen it being described as "weird".....it's simple, we have a ground that holds just over 2k people, and when the ground is full, it's not really possible to have the majority of the 2k crowd at one end or the other.
Bognor are expecting to bring about 200, (I reckon Dulwich had more) and to stop this over exaggeration of flashpoints surely segregation is the only option? This of course will mean the away fans will have to stay at the same end for both halves.
Beer throwing seems to be a "flashpoint" we need to address, and whilst I don't honestly think beer is thrown at away fans (although I wouldn't put my mortgage on it) it does seem that some people prefer not to hold onto their drink when we score and so launch it into the air (or in the direction of away fans)...there was a photo of Dan Parkinson celebrating with the Town End yesterday and in the background there was a Stone's fan gallantly clinging onto his beer (it can be done)
Perhaps banning beer in the Springfield end is an option, but then you may have to ban it from the other end as well?
For the 2nd half on Saturday I was stood behind the goal Dulwich were shooting into and there was only one minor flashpoint and that was an irate fan who though Worgs had taken Clunis out (ie punching him) when challenging for the ball......this fan (who was of a mature age) sent a volley of abuse which included reference to Worgs birthplace (he'd clearly done his homework on Worgs) and the f and c words.
The retaliation from a couple of stones fans was a suggestion he needed new glasses.....
I politely asked the gentleman to refrain from using such language in front of my children to which he apologised and carried on his rant (Worgs blew him a kiss)......Dulwich fans should been given credit for their contribution to the atmosphere.
The point I'm trying to make is this could have been blown out of all proportion, and could have been classed as racist, foul and abusive etc etc......but in reality, this was a Dulwich fan who was passionate about his club and voicing an opinion.....
I understand there were a few other incidents and given we may be playing Tonbridge Angels next season, for which segregation will be a necessity, surely we can't just ignore these incidents and so for the big games we just need to segregate, simple as that.
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Post by oxfordinmaid on Mar 17, 2014 12:18:32 GMT
As mentioned in another thread i think the club may need to sort out some kind of area for away fans for this game.W e really dont need any more beer throwing incidents over away fans and also run the risk of trouble as not all supporters are as good as the ones who visited from Dulwich this is not saying the Bognor fans would cause any problems.Lets just be sensible and prepared Well put Bognor have caused problems in the past some very recent ! The fact that 40+ are staying over should start alarm bells ! ( But what do I know being one short of a full load etc )  |
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Post by ontheup on Mar 17, 2014 12:45:53 GMT
Well, I believe the recent incidents at Dulwich were caused by a group of lads on a stag do, so you could argue that was "high jinx"....and I'd prefer to not tar all Bognor fans with the same brush, in the same way I'd prefer we weren't all put in the same category.
However, I do think we need to segregate to hopefully avoid any future issues.....and for the record, I'd have no issue with us being segregated at an away game as it would put us all in the same place and ensure we made some noise.
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Post by daveu on Mar 17, 2014 13:00:43 GMT
Interesting one, and whilst I'm all for the non league ethic of fans "mixing" I do think we need to be able to provide a comfortable experience for away fans. I'd hardly call the facilities we provided Wealdstone when they were segregated comfortable. No access to hot food or a bar and only a tiny refreshment counter set up in the groundsman's hut. If we're gonna segregate we need to do a lot better than that. |
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Post by islandstone on Mar 17, 2014 13:02:39 GMT
Ban away fans.
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Post by ontheup on Mar 17, 2014 13:16:37 GMT
Interesting one, and whilst I'm all for the non league ethic of fans "mixing" I do think we need to be able to provide a comfortable experience for away fans. I'd hardly call the facilities we provided Wealdstone when they were segregated comfortable. No access to hot food or a bar and only a tiny refreshment counter set up in the groundsman's hut. If we're gonna segregate we need to do a lot better than that. Agreed, and whilst that was done at short notice we do, as a club, need to look at this and find a more accomodating solution. |
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Post by toonarmy on Mar 17, 2014 16:15:55 GMT
We have a handful of idiots who seem hell bent on causing trouble at some of our games, these people must be known to somebody, if they are known they should be reported, it simply isn't fair to tarnish everybody in the Townend due to the actions of a few idiots who in all honesty aren't Maidstone supporters, I know quite a few people who stand in the Townend and they are first class and people who I am happy to have a pint with.....COYS
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Post by ads1708 on Mar 17, 2014 17:55:26 GMT
I would also suggest the bars start asking for ID cos their was schoolboys drinking in the end I was and one of them kept using c word and lobbed a beer
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Post by trolley59 on Mar 17, 2014 19:04:46 GMT
in my opinion, if we are expecting a large gate with an expected decent away support we have to afford our guests their own part of the Gallagher, for a safer, more enjoyable day for everybody,
its just such a shame that after a cracking game Saturday, if you take a look at both forums its all about beer throwing or poor stewarding, and not the game,
in truth a couple of isolated incidence that have grabbed every one's attention,
But with 2500 people crammed into the Gallagher, it only takes one idiot to start, and then potentially we a Wealdstone type scenario
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Post by nws on Mar 17, 2014 20:45:45 GMT
We have a handful of idiots who seem hell bent on causing trouble at some of our games, these people must be known to somebody, if they are known they should be reported, it simply isn't fair to tarnish everybody in the Townend due to the actions of a few idiots who in all honesty aren't Maidstone supporters, I know quite a few people who stand in the Townend and they are first class and people who I am happy to have a pint with.....COYS If nobody knows who they are then how do you know they aren't Maidstone fans? Aha...Toonster...caught out by Inspector NWS |
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