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Post by Adie Ohruru on Jan 29, 2013 7:32:41 GMT
I realise your comment was probably tongue in cheek well I hope so as I believe there is no such thing as new supporters, we are all supporters of this fine club whether you have watched and supported them for 30 years or 6 months, we are one club who are United in our support of the team, COYS MEGA FAIL!!2008's twelve-year-olds have called, they want their insult back.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 8:41:54 GMT
Not sure what's happened to this Board. Over the past few years there has been a bit of harmless mickey taking - but this season there appears to be a clear split between old fans and new. That's a shame since it makes the club as a whole look lesser. I no longer live in Maidstone but I used to go in the 80s - so I have no axe to grind with old or new fans. I just want to see the club do well. I wouldn't worry about it - in another year (/promotion) or two there will be another level of New Fans who won't remember the GS with only one bar / stands and terraces the size they are now / no North West toilet block (I do hope they put it there...) Current "Old Fans" include people who started watching in every decade going back to the 50s probably; Noughties you could divide into those who went to KL games and those who didn't. One season was very different when a bunch of schoolkids came along with their own chants (made idiots of themselves at one game...), now they've gone through university and I hear one of them is even thinking of getting a job. I'm a 70s / 1 game in the 90s / 2000-2009 and now lapsed (busy being a dad) supporter, so I was "new" and not getting the humour on the forum 12 years ago. And we know that there will be dozens of "New" fans who actually were regulars in the 80s and 90s. This season is a culture shock but so was playing at Bourne Park in the KL, felt like the big time. And I don't think the clique is as tight-knit as people think.
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Post by nws on Jan 29, 2013 10:01:59 GMT
Not sure what's happened to this Board. Over the past few years there has been a bit of harmless mickey taking - but this season there appears to be a clear split between old fans and new. That's a shame since it makes the club as a whole look lesser. I no longer live in Maidstone but I used to go in the 80s - so I have no axe to grind with old or new fans. I just want to see the club do well. Personally, I am getting a bit disappointed by people (new and old) suddenly acting like we are soulless Man U fans now we have a new ground and a bigger crowd. Everything is taken literally and woe betide if you try to mickey take or not be serious without putting thirty smiley faces or apologising profusely afterwards.
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Post by russc on Jan 29, 2013 10:09:59 GMT
Not sure what's happened to this Board. Over the past few years there has been a bit of harmless mickey taking - but this season there appears to be a clear split between old fans and new. That's a shame since it makes the club as a whole look lesser. I no longer live in Maidstone but I used to go in the 80s - so I have no axe to grind with old or new fans. I just want to see the club do well. I just don't perceive this at all from our message board. There's a lot of debate about players, facilities, other teams, recent games, but I don't get the impression that so called "long term" supporters think less of those who have become supporters more recently. Where it's mentioned at all it's generally tongue in cheek, and is more likely to take a dig at people who have been on here a while. Naturally there are some in jokes on here from long time posters, that's probably unavoidable. As Toonarmy71 says, "there are no old supporters or new supporters, just Stones supporters". I agree with that, and for my part I am delighted that so many people are coming to games. I'm sure that's the general feeling. I certainly hope so.
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Post by nws on Jan 29, 2013 10:13:13 GMT
I don't care what you say, Russ. You weren't there against Guru Nanak!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 10:17:53 GMT
this season there appears to be a clear split between old fans and new. I no longer live in Maidstone but I used to go in the 80s - so I have no axe to grind with old or new fans. . Impossible I'm afraid, there's no such thing as new fans
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Post by StonedProf on Jan 29, 2013 10:34:46 GMT
I agree with Oxford. You can't just expect over 1,000 new fans to integrate with the 400 or so old fans overnight - such things take time and shared experiences/memories. It's essentially shoving people of different cultures (in this case, match-going non-League and probably armchair top-flight, for the most part) together and expecting there to be no conflict or difference of opinion/values at all. As a relatively new "old fan", I remember that when I and my fellow "schoolkids" started coming along regularly, it took a bit of time for us to accepted as part of the "clique" but we were eventually, especially after getting more involved with things like fundraising (that insane walk to Dover in 2007 being the one that springs to mind). I would also agree that the "old fans' clique" is nowhere near as homogenous a group as people seem to think - in general, there was always division between the people who sat in the Main Stand (moaning old gits), those who stood behind the goal (uncouth rabble) and those fairly anonymous people who stood down the side, and division within those groups as well.
And us "schoolkids" were around for a couple of years at least, and some of us are still at practically every game, although we now seem to be known as the "well-spoken ones" thanks to our tendency to use overly verbose and sesquipedalian language and unusually obscure (for football) words. I'm still waiting for an opportunity to use "gasconade" in a chant.
Anyway, back to the topic of the thread:
8. Always refer to the referee as "Sir" regardless of the insults or obscenities that may make up the rest of the statement/tirade.
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Post by porkystone on Jan 29, 2013 10:52:36 GMT
So my effort to add to the old/new fans debate.
I started watching this in Autumn 2001 - first year in the Kent League & playing at the huge Sittingbourne monster truck dome.
Even then, it was made very clear to me that if I didn't have Kent County League experience I was a much less worthy person.
So if I wan't one of the hardy souls who did Norton Sports away in the KCL and stood in a freezing cold field, and spent half time entertainment interfering with livestock I was much less of a person.
FWIW I agree very much with the Prof's last comment. Things are so much better now in 2013. I think that we are doing so well as a club and that people will come together with one simple aim - onwards & upwards & promotion.
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Post by Adie Ohruru on Jan 29, 2013 10:53:54 GMT
I agree with Oxford. You can't just expect over 1,000 new fans to integrate with the 400 or so old fans overnight - such things take time and shared experiences/memories. It's essentially shoving people of different cultures (in this case, match-going non-League and probably armchair top-flight, for the most part) together and expecting there to be no conflict or difference of opinion/values at all. As a relatively new "old fan", I remember that when I and my fellow "schoolkids" started coming along regularly, it took a bit of time for us to accepted as part of the "clique" but we were eventually, especially after getting more involved with things like fundraising (that insane walk to Dover in 2007 being the one that springs to mind). I would also agree that the "old fans' clique" is nowhere near as homogenous a group as people seem to think - in general, there was always division between the people who sat in the Main Stand (moaning old gits), those who stood behind the goal (uncouth rabble) and those fairly anonymous people who stood down the side, and division within those groups as well. And us "schoolkids" were around for a couple of years at least, and some of us are still at practically every game, although we now seem to be known as the "well-spoken ones" thanks to our tendency to use overly verbose and sesquipedalian language and unusually obscure (for football) words. I'm still waiting for an opportunity to use "gasconade" in a chant. Anyway, back to the topic of the thread: 8. Always refer to the referee as "Sir" regardless of the insults or obscenities that may make up the rest of the statement/tirade. If the use of the word sesquipedalian isn't gasconading, I don't know what is. Sir.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 11:42:29 GMT
Even then, it was made very clear to me that if I didn't have Kent County League experience I was a much less worthy person. So if I wan't one of the hardy souls who did Norton Sports away in the KCL and stood in a freezing cold field, and spent half time entertainment interfering with livestock I was much less of a person. But did you really take such comments seriously? I never encountered that - rather "come and have a beer" after I trained it to a game, one of the last behind MFI, in 2001, and some interest taken in why I was there (Yes, back in the day, people were polite to me)
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Post by nws on Jan 29, 2013 12:26:43 GMT
Porkystone - Missing out on the livestock interference years has cost you dear on so many levels
Oxford - People were polite to you then because they didn't know what a rapscallion you are
I'm now off to look up gasconading
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Post by nws on Jan 29, 2013 12:39:31 GMT
I'm still waiting for an opportunity to use "gasconade" in a chant. We love Ade He makes us gasconade When you give it a punt To Olorunda up front Scoring in our Maidstone wonderland StonedProf is a fool Who's prone to sesquiped-al His opinions are gross His chat is verbose Nattering in his circumlocatory wonderland
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 12:45:15 GMT
Here we go again with the Wonderland songs Flisher, Welford, Kingy, and now Ade.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 13:24:23 GMT
We love Ade He makes us gasconade When you give it a punt Actually, ade is a ... Scoring in our Maidstone wonderland
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Post by stu on Jan 29, 2013 13:27:07 GMT
Just found out I'm not a proper fan cause I don't stand behind the goal we are attacking..... That's shocking, stu, who said that. I'll get 'em for you No worries, I think it's NWS syndrome (ie I'm actually a decent bloke when you really meet me, but on the forum I will wind people up because I think it's funny).
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