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Post by porkystone on Jan 27, 2013 11:25:07 GMT
Gotta feel sorry for the Dulwich fans, travelling all that way, paying their well earned money, just to have the game abandoned. I hope Helmetman wasn't one of them. Still bitter. surely the best post ever. This is indeed a superb post. Dear old porkystone was reading this and taking it seriously until I twigged that it was in jest and started giggling........... Good job joshstone. A much better class of post than one referring to Binsey's belches......
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Post by tim on Jan 28, 2013 13:49:40 GMT
Have to say I have a huge degree of sympathy for Dulwich here, they were 2 up with 5mins to go and it was apparently the Leatherhead players (in particular their no 9...you know much we loved him when we went there) who wanted it abandoned. Whilst I agree this is an outstanding piece of optimism which has paid off, I find it particularly unsporting to walk off the pitch, pumping the air in celebration, when quite clearly they were about to lose.Not ever a pleasant experience going to Leatherhead. I also have sympathy for last week as well as when I arrived at the ground it was clear so much hard work had been put in to try and get the game on we all wanted to see. Let's not become arrogant like the afc dons of this world who were just "passing through" Dulwich deserve the respect as they have been beaten in the play off final for the last 2 seasons and are quite clearly a good side (they play some of the best football in he league on one of the worst pitches......arguably) I've got a lot of sympathy for Dulwich, ontheup. Sure, last week was a fiasco at Dulwich and porky is feeling smug because he bailed out of the trip early. However: a) I understand that Dulwich are in deep deep trouble financially, so can understand their desire for a payday. Ok, whilst having sympathy for the fans that cleared the pitch last week, and yes I was up there at the time it was called off I do have an issue with your point a) If they are in 'deep deep' financial trouble, then maybe they should 'cut their cloth' and reduce a budget which I am reliably informed is higher than ours! After all, I doubt Ellis comes cheap!
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Post by StonedProf on Jan 28, 2013 14:15:04 GMT
I've got a lot of sympathy for Dulwich, ontheup. Sure, last week was a fiasco at Dulwich and porky is feeling smug because he bailed out of the trip early. However: a) I understand that Dulwich are in deep deep trouble financially, so can understand their desire for a payday. Ok, whilst having sympathy for the fans that cleared the pitch last week, and yes I was up there at the time it was called off I do have an issue with your point a) If they are in 'deep deep' financial trouble, then maybe they should 'cut their cloth' and reduce a budget which I am reliably informed is higher than ours! From what I've read, while the club itself has some debts, the major problem is that the company that owns the ground went into administration last summer, and hence their future at Champion Hill is very uncertain. Cutting the playing budget won't help the ground situation as it would never save enough money to make any difference, and attendances would be likely to fall. Thankfully, there is some sort of planning protection on the site which may save them, but of course these can be overturned if you know who to talk to. I was told, in the bar at Champion Hill, that their playing budget is lower than ours. Obviously, I can't testify to the truth of either version.
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Post by tim on Jan 28, 2013 14:57:31 GMT
Well on the subject of playing budgets Steve, if you would like to debate your bar conversation with the very nice man that told me, I'll point you in the right direction!
Good luck! ;D
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Post by tim on Jan 28, 2013 15:03:15 GMT
But if cutting the playing budget wouldn't help their situation, how would getting another 300 punters on one Saturday rather than a Tuesday night help?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2013 16:33:10 GMT
But if cutting the playing budget wouldn't help their situation, how would getting another 300 punters on one Saturday rather than a Tuesday night help? Touché and checkmate
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Post by StonedProf on Jan 28, 2013 19:09:19 GMT
But if cutting the playing budget wouldn't help their situation, how would getting another 300 punters on one Saturday rather than a Tuesday night help? I never said it would - that was porkystone (admittedly a username that could somewhat be applied to me, but alas, is not). Of course, the money would help them in general, as it would any club (remember the game vs. Dover in 2006 which was played on a mudbath at Bourne Park? - I can't help thinking that we might have encouraged the referee to call such a big game on more enthusiastically than we would have against any other opponent). I doubt it would make much difference to their ground situation at the moment - they're not behind on rent or anything as far as I know, it's just that they don't know who's going to own the ground in the near future and what any new owner will want to do with the place. Your post has confirmed my suspicions to the identity of your source, and no, I don't want to argue it, I was just repeating what I was told. As I said, I cannot testify to anything as I haven't seen the accounts of either club, let alone both. No, 'antstone, it was merely check. Checkmate will be much harder to achieve against a mastermind such as myself. ;D
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Post by farawaystone on Jan 28, 2013 19:44:40 GMT
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Post by nws on Jan 28, 2013 20:45:31 GMT
Checkmate will be much harder to achieve against a mastermind such as myself. ;D You wrote defense instead of defence the other week. Checkmate
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Post by toonarmy on Jan 28, 2013 20:53:02 GMT
that sounds like he is blaming the Dulwich fans and not the well built wall that succumbed to those vandals from Duwich and yes I am taking the p*ss
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Post by StonedProf on Jan 28, 2013 22:28:09 GMT
Checkmate will be much harder to achieve against a mastermind such as myself. ;D You wrote defense instead of defence the other week. Checkmate To continue the chess analogy, a simple typing error which did not obscure the meaning of my post is more akin to losing a tempo, not the entire game.
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Post by nws on Jan 28, 2013 22:47:44 GMT
I can remember the error but have long since forgotten the post so checkmate
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Post by pinkpanther on Jan 29, 2013 10:47:50 GMT
If they are in 'deep deep' financial trouble, then maybe they should 'cut their cloth' and reduce a budget which I am reliably informed is higher than ours! After all, I doubt Ellis comes cheap! I think you're jumping to conclusions Tim. Our club does cut its cloth and reduced the playing budget last summer. As far as I'm aware the football club itself is essentially debt-free, but there's no sponsor or sugar daddy pumping in money for players like there is at various clubs with far less support, e.g. Whitehawk. The football club is subsidised by "Hamlets Health Club", which runs the bar, gymnasium above the clubhouse, and 7-a-side leagues on the floodlit artificial pitch behind the main ground. When we get a run of postponements we encounter cashflow problems and are dependent upon Hamlet's Heath Club and/or the club owner to pay the bills for a week or two, so it's a bit of a hand-to-mouth existence, but we're not spending beyond our means. As suggested by Stoned Prof, the main problem seems to be uncertainty over the ground. The company that owns the freehold (DHPD) is a bit mysterious and it's been rumoured that they are in, or on the verge of, administration. There's a meeting at the club following our home game on Saturday week at which we hope to have the situation clarified for the benefit of supporters. I've no idea what Maidstone's weekly wage budget is but I believe ours in in the region of £1,500. (Yours ought to be lot higher than ours when your crowds are five times the size, then again I don't know whether you're still paying off the cost of building the ground, or saving for further ground improvements.) Again, no idea what Ellis Green gets paid, but as he came though our Youth Team nearly a decade ago (which was managed at the time by current First Team management duo of Gavin Rose & Junior Kadi) I imagine he lives locally. Therefore the convenience of playing for a local club rather than Maidstone or Eastleigh, and playing with his mates he's known for years, probably compensates at least in part for getting paid less money.
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Post by porkystone on Jan 29, 2013 11:01:35 GMT
Good post Pinkpanther & good luck to you for the season ( well, apart from on 19 Feb ............... ).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 11:08:55 GMT
Good post Pinkpanther & good luck to you for the season ( well, apart from on 19 Feb ............... ). Sorry, but we can't be wishing them luck for the season. If they get the luck, they get the title. "Good luck for the playoffs"
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