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Post by edos78 on Nov 22, 2024 17:02:45 GMT
It’s always George is to blame when it goes wrong and he is lucky when it goes right. You can’t have it both ways. Like with Hak luckily winning the league Not luck - but a team that gelled and had a brilliant season. Not sure he had much to do with that, he just rode the wave. I think any manager who wins the league deserves a huge amount of credit Hak made key changes and signings during that season that made a big difference - there were many times early on when we didn't gel but he got it right. His tactics and in particular squad management were excellent. George needs to show that he can do the same, and consistently |
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Post by jackster on Nov 22, 2024 17:52:49 GMT
Tbf I think Hak was given a bit of a hard time, but I was def in a tiny minority by the time he left.
Some people would have it that our promotion season was pure luck, when of course it wasn't.
Of course there was a shade of fortune that the Spanish God chose that particular period to join the rankings of an immortal.
The NL experience changed everything when so many good NLS players that Hak stayed loyal to, found themselves out of depth.
After that it was all downhill.
But George is his own man, no way will he follow in Hak's image
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Post by theguvnor on Nov 22, 2024 18:13:58 GMT
Georges selection of attacking players, who then score or create goals is pretty woeful. Bentley, Shaq, Reynolds, Ludacris, Sol, just to name a few. He just has got lucky with a few along the way (Levi/Blair) who basically prop everything up to offer the biggest goal threat. Surprised George hasn't had Shamir Mullings back on trial It’s always George is to blame when it goes wrong and he is lucky when it goes right. You can’t have it both ways. Like with Hak luckily winning the league We’ve had some decent results under him, but when it goes wrong he does shoulder a lot and rightly so. He’s the one who’s put the team together, so if we have consistently poor players not returning anything that’s on him. It’s on him when we concede awful goals at set piece time (mostly corners). If we are otherwise playing well and getting results but someone gets sent off, or makes an error leading to a goal, of course he can’t be blamed. But as a collective if he can’t change things up, inspire players, or use sound judgement getting them in, then that’s on him |
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Post by Raymondo316 on Nov 22, 2024 18:53:03 GMT
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Post by okenney on Nov 22, 2024 18:53:53 GMT
Nothing wrong with George requiring his players to be fit, they are professional athletes after all. Thoselong term injured are suffering from foot injuries and nothing to do with being over trained. I don't think we are disadvantaged by our geographic location, We have a catchment area of the whole of London, Essex and Sussex with numerous Premier sides and Championship sides who have to move on players. Money talks but there should be plenty of choice. I agree 100% - look a what Barrow have achieved despite their location Barrow do all their training in Manchester - www.nytimes.com/athletic/3680118/2022/10/21/barrow-efl-train-100-miles-home-ground/ |
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Post by edos78 on Nov 22, 2024 19:15:15 GMT
indeed - they are a great example of what is possible |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 22, 2024 19:43:54 GMT
indeed - they are a great example of what is possible What’s possible with £5.5m pumped in by their owners. Just another club living beyond its means until the money men run out of money or get bored |
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Post by jdl on Nov 22, 2024 19:51:15 GMT
Not luck - but a team that gelled and had a brilliant season. Not sure he had much to do with that, he just rode the wave. Hak made key changes and signings during that season that made a big difference - there were many times early on when we didn't gel but he got it right. His tactics and in particular squad management were excellent. George needs to show that he can do the same, and consistently Perhaps, but what credit does he get for relegating TWO teams the following season, and hitting the heady heights of 11th in the league below us the next one? |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 22, 2024 19:57:29 GMT
I think any manager who wins the league deserves a huge amount of creditHak made key changes and signings during that season that made a big difference - there were many times early on when we didn't gel but he got it right. His tactics and in particular squad management were excellent. George needs to show that he can do the same, and consistently Perhaps, but what credit does he get for relegating TWO teams the following season, and hitting the heady heights of 11th in the league below us the next one? Sacked by us, rightly. Dulwich are very patient. |
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Post by edos78 on Nov 22, 2024 20:02:38 GMT
indeed - they are a great example of what is possible What’s possible with £5.5m pumped in by their owners. Just another club living beyond its means until the money men run out of money or get bored They were competitive long before the money came in but they’ve had investment but used it well, they don’t lose huge amounts my cousin (Guy Heffernan) played for them over 15 years ago and they were on the up then the springboard for them was an FA Cup run - must have been nice |
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Post by edos78 on Nov 22, 2024 20:04:08 GMT
I think any manager who wins the league deserves a huge amount of creditHak made key changes and signings during that season that made a big difference - there were many times early on when we didn't gel but he got it right. His tactics and in particular squad management were excellent. George needs to show that he can do the same, and consistently Perhaps, but what credit does he get for relegating TWO teams the following season, and hitting the heady heights of 11th in the league below us the next one? I don’t think that diminishes his achievement in 2021/22 - he wasn’t the only one to fail the year after |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 22, 2024 20:09:45 GMT
What’s possible with £5.5m pumped in by their owners. Just another club living beyond its means until the money men run out of money or get bored They were competitive long before the money came in but they’ve had investment but used it well, they don’t lose huge amounts my cousin (Guy Heffernan) played for them over 15 years ago and they were on the up then the springboard for them was an FA Cup run - must have been nice Competitive maybe but still £5.5m needed to keep them afloat. They’ve been “on the up” for sure. They were very similar to us in that they’ve been up and down into the NL and back down and have made the leap to the league on the back of a good management appointment and a lot of cash. We could be where they are if we have a £5.5m investment I guess, they’re still not running at break even though I don’t think. They were very similar to us until the cash injection |
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Post by Dweezil on Nov 22, 2024 20:11:22 GMT
Not sure this year but certainly previously Torquay trained near Birmingham, only travelled down matchdays. Big problems recruiting in the South West, especially if part time
I thought Barrow had a benefactor, a local boy made good in the States, who gifts money from his oil wealth. Certainly gave 2M to do the ground up not so long ago
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 22, 2024 20:17:46 GMT
Not sure this year but certainly previously Torquay trained near Birmingham, only travelled down matchdays. Big problems recruiting in the South West, especially if part time I thought Barrow had a benefactor, a local boy made good in the States, who gifts money from his oil wealth. Certainly gave 2M to do the ground up not so long ago Dover trained nearer London as well when doing well |
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Post by Dweezil on Nov 22, 2024 20:26:01 GMT
And closer to home, someone from Worthing was chatting to Mo Faal who stated he was now travelling to Worthing from Swindon. Must be hell of a lot nearer than Maidstone !
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