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Post by stonesforlife on Jan 29, 2024 22:15:08 GMT
My thoughts are I’m just glad to have a club to support in town, that have made a profit ten years in a row, while expanding the stadium three times, and enjoying a ridiculously amazing cup run. If I could run the club better than the owners, I’d be the owner instead of the owners. Agree I'm happy, my one wish would be we could get in the national league and stay there. But that is a big ask and needs constant investment, which we don't have. Hopefully this cup run will bring new interest from new supporters. Big game this Saturday could be a good crowd hopefully |
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Post by jdl on Jan 29, 2024 23:12:12 GMT
My thoughts are I’m just glad to have a club to support in town, that have made a profit ten years in a row, while expanding the stadium three times, and enjoying a ridiculously amazing cup run. If I could run the club better than the owners, I’d be the owner instead of the owners. Agree I'm happy, my one wish would be we could get in the national league and stay there. But that is a big ask and needs constant investment, which we don't have. Hopefully this cup run will bring new interest from new supporters. Big game this Saturday could be a good crowd hopefully Sorry to be a Sword, but post-Cup crash more like it. How many times have we expected great things/big crowds coming off the back of a success? Does it ever happen? |
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Post by sword65 on Jan 30, 2024 3:45:45 GMT
I thought we was led to believe the club was run sensibly, new pitch is 250k, have they really lost that much money, or they taking back money for themselves? I've no idea what to think, what are peoples thoughts on that. Attendances have fallen and greedy players wages have gone up add this to the frivolous gold coated coach they travel to away games in and its not hard to see why the club is losing money.I don't think they would put it back into their own pockets it's just the ridiculous price you pay for being a professional club which in my opinion is our biggest mistake. We are now caught in the trap of reaching for the stars but more likely to crash on the moon. |
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Post by sword65 on Jan 30, 2024 3:50:26 GMT
Agree I'm happy, my one wish would be we could get in the national league and stay there. But that is a big ask and needs constant investment, which we don't have. Hopefully this cup run will bring new interest from new supporters. Big game this Saturday could be a good crowd hopefully Sorry to be a Sword, but post-Cup crash more like it. How many times have we expected great things/big crowds coming off the back of a success? Does it ever happen? Exactly! I remember when Whitley Bay won the FA Vase with 10,000 travelling fans and I went to the first game the season after and the crowd was 117. |
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Post by 61666 on Jan 30, 2024 8:37:33 GMT
We are home to Yeovil and Torquay in our next two games - after Punjab, of course. Torquay won't bring many on a Tuesday night, but the Gallagher ought to be buzzing on Saturday for the visit of the league leaders.
Whether is is or not is another matter...
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Post by aristotle38 on Jan 30, 2024 18:46:44 GMT
My thoughts are I’m just glad to have a club to support in town, that have made a profit ten years in a row, while expanding the stadium three times, and enjoying a ridiculously amazing cup run. If I could run the club better than the owners, I’d be the owner instead of the owners. Agree I'm happy, my one wish would be we could get in the national league and stay there. But that is a big ask and needs constant investment, which we don't have. Hopefully this cup run will bring new interest from new supporters. Big game this Saturday could be a good crowd hopefully I wonder how Maidenhead have managed to position themselves at that level-although talking to a home fan when we played there, it seems like unearthing and then selling of one “gem” a season keeps them going. That said, their ground can best be described as “quaint” and could do with a facelift. But that grumpy git Devonshire seems to work magic every season! |
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Post by sword65 on Jan 30, 2024 19:26:52 GMT
Agree I'm happy, my one wish would be we could get in the national league and stay there. But that is a big ask and needs constant investment, which we don't have. Hopefully this cup run will bring new interest from new supporters. Big game this Saturday could be a good crowd hopefully I wonder how Maidenhead have managed to position themselves at that level-although talking to a home fan when we played there, it seems like unearthing and then selling of one “gem” a season keeps them going. That said, their ground can best be described as “quaint” and could do with a facelift. But that grumpy git Devonshire seems to work magic every season! They are not professional for a start so ultra silly wages aren't a problem like what we have. |
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Post by pwoodstone on Jan 30, 2024 19:38:12 GMT
I wonder how Maidenhead have managed to position themselves at that level-although talking to a home fan when we played there, it seems like unearthing and then selling of one “gem” a season keeps them going. That said, their ground can best be described as “quaint” and could do with a facelift. But that grumpy git Devonshire seems to work magic every season! They are not professional for a start so ultra silly wages aren't a problem like what we have. We get that you don’t approve of being full time Swordy!! Maidenhead have a good manager. They buy well. They are organised. They succeed just how we did under Jay. They don’t have too many fans who are expecting them to get to the EFL so the pressure is solely on staying up. They are always odds in to go down and haven’t yet! If we would have kept the faith with Jay the first time around and given him the tools, I reckon we might still be there. The trick is going up with a squad that has the basis of a team good enough to finish 5th bottom. You don’t want to have to make wholesale changes to a promotion winning squad but you have to realise that you might have to |
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Post by jdl on Jan 30, 2024 20:44:07 GMT
The owners have only made three mistakes: sacking Jay, employing the Clown, and not sacking Hak a lot earlier.
But, as we're in the FA Cup FIFTH round, and (somehow) still in the NS playoffs, I'll let them off...
You don't get a crack at promotion and to play in the last 16 of the FA Cup that often, after all.
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Post by Tony G on Jan 30, 2024 22:19:26 GMT
Agree I'm happy, my one wish would be we could get in the national league and stay there. But that is a big ask and needs constant investment, which we don't have. Hopefully this cup run will bring new interest from new supporters. Big game this Saturday could be a good crowd hopefully I wonder how Maidenhead have managed to position themselves at that level-although talking to a home fan when we played there, it seems like unearthing and then selling of one “gem” a season keeps them going. That said, their ground can best be described as “quaint” and could do with a facelift. Maidenhead United (York Road) is acknowledged by The Football Association and FIFA to be the oldest continuously-used senior association football ground in the world by the same club, having been home to the club since 1871. |
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Post by pigbag on Jan 30, 2024 22:39:44 GMT
Swordy is wrong if he thinks our players are greedy and the club is paying over the odds. We are a part time side, not fully professional. We train 3 days a week during the day time. football is the players main source of income but many have part time jobs.
Other teams call themselves semi professional as they have day time jobs as a main source of income and train in the evening.
If you want to attract young players who make their way into the professional league which team will they choose? If you want a player who is used to training full time which will he choose?
If the support is there why not attract the best you can afford? With only one season in the last ten when we did not make a profit I would suggest the management has struck the right balance.
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Post by sword65 on Jan 31, 2024 3:23:29 GMT
Swordy is wrong if he thinks our players are greedy and the club is paying over the odds. We are a part time side, not fully professional. We train 3 days a week during the day time. football is the players main source of income but many have part time jobs. Other teams call themselves semi professional as they have day time jobs as a main source of income and train in the evening. If you want to attract young players who make their way into the professional league which team will they choose? If you want a player who is used to training full time which will he choose? If the support is there why not attract the best you can afford? With only one season in the last ten when we did not make a profit I would suggest the management has struck the right balance. The whole point is that Oliver said at this time we are running at a loss,though probably not now, and one reason for this loss is players wages which we are struggling to afford because of falling attendances. If we are only semi professional why are we paying professional wages. This FA Cup run has dug us out of a hole with a substantial loss on the cards without it,but what happens next season if we get knocked out early and the crowds have not improved? I genuinely believe we are trying to be a bigger club than we are and how long before small losses turn into big ones chasing a dream that we are nowhere near ready for. The FA Cup money could have gone some way towards building the Riverside stand and may still do but is it right to postpone such a development to line the pockets of players who would leave us at a drop of a hat.Money is slowly destroying football at all levels barring the super greed league that is the premier league but the financial problems of certain clubs are slowly catching up with them as Everton,Forest and eventually Man City are finding. Just how long until money causes our undoing as well. |
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Post by grovergreenstone on Jan 31, 2024 8:15:05 GMT
So what the club is cuirrently doing is spending money we dont have. Then you hear people saying how well the club is run and glad were not like teams above and around us who spend money they havent got. Its starting to look like we are no different.
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Post by regentstone on Jan 31, 2024 8:43:20 GMT
So what the club is cuirrently doing is spending money we dont have. Then you hear people saying how well the club is run and glad were not like teams above and around us who spend money they havent got. Its starting to look like we are no different. This article by Oliver suggests that the club is in safe hands and that the FA Cup windfall will be spent prudently, the Ash out brigade probably won't like it. |
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Post by 61666 on Jan 31, 2024 8:54:30 GMT
We did very well as a semi pro side, training in the evenings. Ultimately our home support and other income meant we could pay top, semi pro wages and attract decent semi pro players. Part of me thinks this is still the way to go, because I believe that there are plenty of semi pro players who are better footballers, but choose (like Tom Mills and Alex Fisher) to put long term career prospects ahead of short to medium term gain.
However, youngsters get signed up by the big clubs while still at primary school and even though most don't make it, it means smaller clubs are increasingly denied the pool of talent they used to nurture.
Meanwhile, assuming we think the National League is our natural level, it is hard to see how we can manage that without substantial new investment, which has so far not been forthcoming. Shame Robbie Williams doesn't come from Maidstone, given his interest in buying Port Vale!
Currently, the club seems to be between the proverbial rock and a hard place - big enough to aspire to the NL, but without the resources to stay there. So far, the season has met, even exceeded expectations, with one key flaw: we don't play attractive enough football to bring more spectators in and combined with the fact that far too many NS teams are as dull as ditchwater, there isn't the incentive to turn out for the ordinary games.
So, we are stuck, but wasn't that always the case after last season? This one was always going to be a case of consolidation, which already has been achieved. How we build from there is another matter, but without new investment, the part time route may yet be the only viable option. Let's hope all the cup exposure is sparking some interest to build on what Oliver and Terry have created.
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