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Post by Better things to do in life on May 12, 2019 20:48:51 GMT
Hes already gone our contracts are only till the end of April. Are you 100% sure? I was told that some of our contracts run till end of May which is the only reason Turgott/De Havilland are still on the books. Surely Callum Davies is a happy CH at Folkestone and it’s Callum DRIVER just released by Dartford? He was ok but not good enough to want him back.
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Post by jdl on May 12, 2019 20:59:52 GMT
I reckon we should give this Cooker bloke a chance.
I've heard he's hot.
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Post by Nick on May 12, 2019 21:13:42 GMT
I dont think so, he's barely lukewarm and don't get me going on the 2 Callums. What is this preoccupation with dredging up the names of ex players who were never up to much but some supporters think they may be useful now as we have lowered our expectations. They are just not good enough by a country mile! Never were, never will be. Please let's look forward not backwards. I'm guessing JS2/HH read the forum. Hope to God they take no notice of some of the players being wished for.
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Post by Sennockian69 on May 12, 2019 23:45:59 GMT
Agree Nick the trouble with nostalgia is that it's backward looking.
I have and will always favour the new and the exciting.
I am sure those are the ones that will be coming through the door.
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Post by shamstone on May 13, 2019 0:38:35 GMT
Agree Nick the trouble with nostalgia is that it's backward looking. I have and will always favour the new and the exciting. I am sure those are the ones that will be coming through the door. The greatest part of the brain is memory. The worse thing that comes from memory is nostalgia. We remember but we can never go back.
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Post by stewart on May 13, 2019 0:38:58 GMT
Are you 100% sure? I was told that some of our contracts run till end of May which is the only reason Turgott/De Havilland are still on the books. Surely Callum Davies is a happy CH at Folkestone and it’s Callum DRIVER just released by Dartford? He was ok but not good enough to want him back. Correct, I should have put Callum Driver in the first instance, have edikated my origanal postto take care of my old age enchoosiasms, another right back is richard davies but he has probably gone too far back down the leagues to be any use now and nathan paul is a bit passed his best now
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Post by jdl on May 13, 2019 8:18:41 GMT
Agree Nick the trouble with nostalgia is that it's backward looking. I have and will always favour the new and the exciting. I am sure those are the ones that will be coming through the door. The greatest part of the brain is memory. The worse thing that comes from memory is nostalgia. We remember but we can never go back. Bit deep for a Monday morning...
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Post by Better things to do in life on May 13, 2019 8:52:34 GMT
The greatest part of the brain is memory. The worse thing that comes from memory is nostalgia. We remember but we can never go back. Bit deep for a Monday morning... If nostalgia is so bad, and looking back is not the way to go forward, why did we hire, and why are we so positive, about JS2 being at the helm?
Most fans are too young to even remember when he was here before!
I agree that our squad this year should be new and exciting but the odd blast from the past may not be such a bad thing if they are still playing well and could be a positive influence - we just can't bet the farm on all old boys, of course, but equally to rule them all out just because they've played here before would be equally short sighted.
However, JS2 and HH don't really know many former Stones , so for that reason its unlikely we will get any returning old boys. Its fun to speculate though!
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Post by Nick on May 13, 2019 10:09:35 GMT
Bloody hell oldboy, I bet you could start an argument in an empty room.
Nobody has said we shouldn't get any of your 'old boys' (I assume this was an intended as a pun)
The point being the names quoted are simply not good enough based on what we have seen of them.
Neither of the Callums or Coker 'cut the mustard'.
No comprendez ?
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Post by butlerisalegend on May 13, 2019 11:17:38 GMT
Bloody hell oldboy, I bet you could start an argument in an empty room. Nobody has said we shouldn't get any of your 'old boys' (I assume this was an intended as a pun) The point being the names quoted are simply not good enough based on what we have seen of them. Neither of the Callums or Coker 'cut the mustard'. No comprendez ? But Nick it isn’t just these names that were mentioned. This argument was used about players such as Lewis and Worgs which is quite frankly ridiculous. I agree we should look forward but that doesn’t mean we should exclude every player that has ever played for us. It should be looked at on merit.
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Post by daveu on May 13, 2019 11:38:16 GMT
Bloody hell oldboy, I bet you could start an argument in an empty room. Nobody has said we shouldn't get any of your 'old boys' (I assume this was an intended as a pun) The point being the names quoted are simply not good enough based on what we have seen of them. Neither of the Callums or Coker 'cut the mustard'. No comprendez ? But Nick it isn’t just these names that were mentioned. This argument was used about players such as Lewis and Worgs which is quite frankly ridiculous. I agree we should look forward but that doesn’t mean we should exclude every player that has ever played for us. It should be looked at on merit. Neither Lewis nor Worgs are coming back. Lewis appears to have retired from playing to concentrate on his coaching, and Worgs is now Dover's first choice keeper, so any speculation regarding them is pointless.
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Post by butlerisalegend on May 13, 2019 11:51:32 GMT
But Nick it isn’t just these names that were mentioned. This argument was used about players such as Lewis and Worgs which is quite frankly ridiculous. I agree we should look forward but that doesn’t mean we should exclude every player that has ever played for us. It should be looked at on merit. Neither Lewis nor Worgs are coming back. Lewis appears to have retired from playing to concentrate on his coaching, and Worgs is now Dover's first choice keeper, so any speculation regarding them is pointless. You have missed my point completely. I know they are not coming back! It is the argument that we should never consider the opportunity to sign previous players if they were available!
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Post by Better things to do in life on May 13, 2019 12:08:04 GMT
Bloody hell oldboy, I bet you could start an argument in an empty room. Nobody has said we shouldn't get any of your 'old boys' (I assume this was an intended as a pun) The point being the names quoted are simply not good enough based on what we have seen of them. Neither of the Callums or Coker 'cut the mustard'. No comprendez ? Nick I was just expressing an opinion - your unnecessary swearing turned things into an argument so I think it’s you that needs to avoid empty rooms! The discussion was that nostalgia and looking at former players isn’t all bad but most of them either don’t cut it or aren’t available - all fair discussion points - Not argumentative!
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Post by daveu on May 13, 2019 13:08:54 GMT
Neither Lewis nor Worgs are coming back. Lewis appears to have retired from playing to concentrate on his coaching, and Worgs is now Dover's first choice keeper, so any speculation regarding them is pointless. You have missed my point completely. I know they are not coming back! It is the argument that we should never consider the opportunity to sign previous players if they were available! I'm not sure anyone actually said that. The argument was about signing players released by a club in the same league we are going to be in next season. But as for signing former players generally, in most cases either they weren't good enough for us, or they didn't think we were good enough for them, so why should we give them another chance?
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Post by stonelacro on May 13, 2019 13:46:10 GMT
You have missed my point completely. I know they are not coming back! It is the argument that we should never consider the opportunity to sign previous players if they were available! I'm not sure anyone actually said that. The argument was about signing players released by a club in the same league we are going to be in next season. But as for signing former players generally, in most cases either they weren't good enough for us, or they didn't think we were good enough for them, so why should we give them another chance? ... or, why should they give us another chance?
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