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Post by nws on Apr 30, 2019 13:29:31 GMT
Come on chaps, we clearly need more than a season back in the NS before we are ready to tackle the NL again. We've just had the worst season in our history (and I AM including the Wilderness Years - relatively). We've crashed and burnt - 34 points over an entire season, GD of -45, almost 20 points off safety, even six points below the second to last team, beaten by all the shit teams in the league, five managers, more keepers than I can remember, dozens of players in and out - this wasn't a bad season, it was a catastrophe. And now we have to rebuild from scratch, hoping that JS2 hasn't lost his touch and that HH is a better manager than most of us fear he is. We'll be lucky just to do well in the NS, let alone get straight back up - especially with 4 or 5 other clubs, determined to beat us to it, and all hitting the ground running. If we didn't have the support we do, we'd be more worried about double relegation than going straight back up - it's happened to bigger and better clubs than us. Utter garbage. The relegation season at Ashford was easily the worst season I can remember. Or how about 1992 when we didn't even manage to start the season. And as for writing the season off before we even start, you should be ashamed to call yourself a supporter with that attitude. In the wilderness years he was, of course, ashamed to be a supporter so I'm not quite sure how he does include the wilderness years. However, in a rare moment of togetherness, I tend to agree with JDL. I found this last season the worst of the lot. Towards the end I stopped bothering, somewhat, simply because I didn't find it interesting and I didn't have the appetite.
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Post by jdl on Apr 30, 2019 13:37:31 GMT
Come on chaps, we clearly need more than a season back in the NS before we are ready to tackle the NL again. We've just had the worst season in our history (and I AM including the Wilderness Years - relatively). We've crashed and burnt - 34 points over an entire season, GD of -45, almost 20 points off safety, even six points below the second to last team, beaten by all the shit teams in the league, five managers, more keepers than I can remember, dozens of players in and out - this wasn't a bad season, it was a catastrophe. And now we have to rebuild from scratch, hoping that JS2 hasn't lost his touch and that HH is a better manager than most of us fear he is. We'll be lucky just to do well in the NS, let alone get straight back up - especially with 4 or 5 other clubs, determined to beat us to it, and all hitting the ground running. If we didn't have the support we do, we'd be more worried about double relegation than going straight back up - it's happened to bigger and better clubs than us. Utter garbage. The relegation season at Ashford was easily the worst season I can remember. Or how about 1992 when we didn't even manage to start the season. And as for writing the season off before we even start, you should be ashamed to call yourself a supporter with that attitude. "Relatively" was the key word. In your own words, "1992 when we didn't even magage to start" - therefore not actually a season... As for the rest - do you actually read my posts?? You are always the first to moan when someone has a go at you, yet your default position is to do exactly that when ever you disgree with anyone. This is a discussion board, we are bound to disagree with each other, but that doesn't give you the right to tell someone they should be ashamed to be a supporter.
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Post by jakeyboi on Apr 30, 2019 13:48:43 GMT
This next season is vitally important to the current owners, they must match the fans ambitions of a swift return to the NL rather than sit in the lower levels of the NLS because if that were to happen I think the fan base will drop dramatically an they cannot afford that to happen, so we must go into any new season looking at what we potentially can win as well as what we hope to win in our dreams. I f we are lucky enough to go back up to the NL next year then brilliant, but at the very least we must try to gain promotion, otherwise whats the point of playing.
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Post by 61666 on Apr 30, 2019 17:28:13 GMT
The wind up merchant thinks he's winning at the moment, which is why I am not taking part now, because it's pointless.
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Post by daveu on Apr 30, 2019 17:42:50 GMT
The wind up merchant thinks he's winning at the moment, which is why I am not taking part now, because it's pointless. Not trying to wind anyone up. I simply can't understand the attitude of anyone who doesn't want us to do the best we can.
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Post by pedant on Apr 30, 2019 19:14:39 GMT
The wind up merchant thinks he's winning at the moment, which is why I am not taking part now, because it's pointless. like most of our league matches?
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Post by pedant on Apr 30, 2019 19:19:28 GMT
The wind up merchant thinks he's winning at the moment, which is why I am not taking part now, because it's pointless. Not trying to wind anyone up. I simply can't understand the attitude of anyone who doesn't want us to do the best we can. Few will disagree (although some will out of principle) however the definition of "the best we can" could be more contentious.
I don't believe its an untenable view that not being promoted next season could be the best for the club in the longer run, however other views are equally (or perhaps even more) valid.
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Post by jdl on Apr 30, 2019 23:05:13 GMT
There are two aspects of a club's readiness to be promoted - the obvious one being what happens on the pitch, but also the 'hidden' (but more important) one of what goes on behind the scenes.
This season (in my opinion!) has demonstrated pretty clearly that we weren't up to the NL in regards to the second aspect - as well as being shite on the pitch. And (in my opinion!) I think it will take more than a season to sort this out. Hence my worries about going straight back up. Even if we do well on the pitch, and even if JS2 and HH produce a team that might do well in the NL, we will probably still struggle because the club itself is not yet ready to operate at that level.
But then I'm not worthy to call myself a supporter, so what the f**k do I know?
(rhetorical)
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Post by aristotle38 on May 1, 2019 4:22:42 GMT
One thing for sure is that if we go down the route of re-recruiting ex-players (the title of the thread) and ex-managers like some people on here want us to do- then we’ll never be ready for going back up.
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Post by binsey on May 1, 2019 6:33:17 GMT
One thing for sure is that if we go down the route of re-recruiting ex-players (the title of the thread) and ex-managers like some people on here want us to do- then we’ll never be ready for going back up. Funny enough I had to check the thread title after reading most of the comments on the last page!! hijacked again! We don't want old players back unless its the pig!
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Post by nws on May 1, 2019 9:01:24 GMT
One thing for sure is that if we go down the route of re-recruiting ex-players (the title of the thread) and ex-managers like some people on here want us to do- then we’ll never be ready for going back up. Funny enough I had to check the thread title after reading most of the comments on the last page!! hijacked again! We don't want old players back unless its the pig! Or Danny Lye, Binsey. Don't forget the Lyester.
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Post by porkystone on May 1, 2019 13:54:18 GMT
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Post by Raymondo316 on May 1, 2019 14:12:48 GMT
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Post by daveu on May 1, 2019 15:15:28 GMT
Me too. Quite often get that when people post links to the NLP. Try this
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Post by toonarmy on May 1, 2019 20:23:18 GMT
Funny enough I had to check the thread title after reading most of the comments on the last page!! hijacked again! We don't want old players back unless its the pig! Or Danny Lye, Binsey. Don't forget the Lyester. Ah the legend that is Sir Danny of Lye
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