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Braintree
Apr 19, 2019 16:34:23 GMT
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Post by shamstone on Apr 19, 2019 16:34:23 GMT
Where are those who repeatedly said give Richards and Embery a chance, what have we got to lose? We gave them a chance, we lost. Not saying it was their fault but in a bucket load of mediocrity they, particularly Richards, failed to shine. There was not a single player today who was worthy of a place in next years squad, Richards like the others failed to ignite the game in anyway, but if he is to be dropped for that then we would have to drop the entire team. What enfuriates me is at the next home game they will all be huddled in the middle of the pitch expecting us to applaud them an even vote for one of them to win an award. Well maybe we should all abstain from electing a player of the year, maybe then the management will finally realise just how fed up we all are. Also maybe we should just not turn up for Aldershot
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Post by jakeyboi on Apr 19, 2019 16:35:23 GMT
Didn’t go today, first home game missed this season, so can’t comment. But reading other posters it seems to be the same shit home ‘ performance ‘. Apart from maybe Solihull, performances away have been more entertaining not necessarily result wise but at least trying. At home they are just clueless Oh mate your so lucky you missed it, it was dire an thats being polite. We were made to look useless by a team like Braintree which really is an insult. I think we need to rip the squad to bits an start again from scratch, because if we retain the spine of this squad for next year then I can see us struggling to get anywhere near mid-table in the NLS
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Post by jakeyboi on Apr 19, 2019 16:36:44 GMT
There was not a single player today who was worthy of a place in next years squad, Richards like the others failed to ignite the game in anyway, but if he is to be dropped for that then we would have to drop the entire team. What enfuriates me is at the next home game they will all be huddled in the middle of the pitch expecting us to applaud them an even vote for one of them to win an award. Well maybe we should all abstain from electing a player of the year, maybe then the management will finally realise just how fed up we all are. Also maybe we should just not turn up for Aldershot Either that or turn up as normal but try an get everyone to walk out with 5 or 10 mins remaining.
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Post by shamstone on Apr 19, 2019 16:37:28 GMT
Also maybe we should just not turn up for Aldershot Either that or turn up as normal but try an get everyone to walk out with 5 or 10 mins remaining. [br That’s probably a better idea
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Post by 61666 on Apr 19, 2019 16:42:46 GMT
Awful. Gut wrenchingly utterly awful. If Hakan says we tried hard but were unlucky he will only tell everyone he is not up to the job. They were easily the better side, but were they any good? No. We cannot say they were bigger than us, or that they had the ref on their side (he actually had a decent game by this season's standards), but what Hakan should do is blame the players for not turning up. For me, only Wishart and Amaluzor looked interested. Not good, but at least interested. Maybe Richards too, who sadly didn't play 90 minutes because he was stretchered off with what looked like a nasty head injury. Equally, he could have been any one of at least eight or nine who deserved to be substituted. Turgott drifted in and out of the game. Swaine and Davis looked lost without WDH. Muldoon barely managed a pass or a tackle all game. Taylor was completely anonymous until the 85th minute, when he suddenly put in two biting tackles, so WTF was that about. Embrey completely out of his depth - which is worrying - while Powell offered about as much as Taylor. Braintree at least turned up and made an effort, so why couldn't Stones? Management HAVE to take some of the blame here. As for the attendance, the idea that it is clicks on the turnstiles cannot be true. When 1900 was announced in the second half, there was plenty of time to do a headcount. Main stand - 300 max, including the top tier. Genco - 67 from Braintree and maybe another 250-300 Stones fans. Pitch side on the main stand, maybe 100, Town End, no more than 50 second half and Riverside maybe 200. So a thousand at the most. After the penalty, the Genco were singing ' we're f**king shit'; nobody expected another 89 minutes of it though. Surprised they didn't set up a chorus of 'we want our money back!' Pretty obvious from the team sheet and today's play that WDH is leaving, along with Cassidy, while only Amaluzor, Lewington, Richards, Embury and Wishart are interested in staying. Worst home performance of the season? Mostly likely, though there is still Aldershot next Saturday and there is every chance this bunch of losers could be just as bad, if not worse.
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Post by jakeyboi on Apr 19, 2019 16:55:00 GMT
Thank God I wasn,t the only one who was doubtful of the attendence, no way was there nearly 2000 people inside the ground today, personally I estimated about 1400 at a good guess. As for the players well the only positive was apart from a game nearer to the end of the season was that there was no travelling involved. We didn,t even seem to want to try an compete.
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Post by HartleyHare on Apr 19, 2019 16:56:09 GMT
Either that or turn up as normal but try an get everyone to walk out with 5 or 10 mins remaining. [br That’s probably a better idea Isn’t that what usually happens anyway though ?! 😄
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Post by Nick on Apr 19, 2019 16:56:12 GMT
Fair enough 61666, you summing up was probably quite generous to the team.
Just a bit harsh on Swaine who did little wrong today and looked decent.
There again he's only motivated by playing for a National League slot somewhere else next season.
Wishart had a fair match but no better and probably worth signing again
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Post by hongkongstone on Apr 19, 2019 17:04:30 GMT
I do not get to many games each season for obvious geographical reasons but having watched the Stones for over 45 years I can confidently say that is the worst team performance I have ever seen.
Sorry, I use the word 'team' too lightly as team implies an awareness of a structure of play and anticipation of where your colleagues may be going. Today I watched a collection of 11 individuals without a footballing brain between them. No anticipation, no positioning, no off-the-ball movement to create space or opportunities. Frankly no 'team' cohesion.
I am also concerned at the naivity. A couple of times at free kicks Braintree nearly broke through because we were too busy looking mournfully at the ref or scratching our arses. Then their second goal came when a free kick taken by Richards almost back to the half way line had everyone forward and when as per usual the attack broke down their keeper immediately booted it upfield where only Richards was and none of our defenders had the wherewithall to anticipate needing to cover the eventiality. Needless to say their 2 runners broke through and the rest is history.
Braintree were poor also but being unable to beat a team we will be competing against in the NLS next season does not bode well.
As for individuals: Lewington - at least he had a pair of lungs and kept shouting orders, albeit to little effect. Phillips - a player I have liked before but very anonymous today Mr. Freeze - Best individual performance and consistant throughout Davies - soft penalty giveaway and little else thereafter (fortunately some may say) Wishart - has no postional sense whatsoever. Frequently caught out of position at left back alowing them space to attack Powell - anonymous, good substitution Taylor - couple of good touches but nothing else Muldoon - worse than being a man down - unless you need 2-point conversions over the top of the Genco stand Turgott - some good running onto through balls, creating problems but no end result. Does not appear motivated. Richards - hufed and puffed but to no good. When Powell went off his corner taking was truly atrocious - even I can do better (doesn't require me to run) - if you have no plan for dead ball situations then at least stick it onto the edge of the 6 yard box at a hight for someone like Swaine Embery - maybe it was my view of the pitch but I didn't see him do anything until he was subbed Romaine - more huffing and puffing, did unsettle them a bit but no end result Amaluzor - immediately after coming on his first touch was booed by the 67 Braintree fans and he then fluffed completely. Thereafer made some good runs but is annnoying in the fact that as soon as he lays off the ball he stops to congratulate himself and immediately ends up 10m behind the game line being of no use to anyone, for instance able to receive a return ball.
I noticed Oliver and Bill in the Spitfire lounge before the game engaging with people. I bet they didn't go there after the game.
On a day when G&N are considering going down 2 divisions and so the 4th from bottom place may be worth playing for this is doubly disappointimg. Certainly It makes one question carrying out 20,000km round trips.
Anyway, Sutton on Monday, albeit via the massive rip off that is SE Rail. Unless anyone has a better idea.......
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Post by pedant on Apr 19, 2019 17:21:34 GMT
Fair enough 61666, you summing up was probably quite generous to the team. Just a bit harsh on Swaine who did little wrong today and looked decent. There again he's only motivated by playing for a National League slot somewhere else next season. Wishart had a fair match but no better and probably worth signing againNo, no, no, NO!
Watch him attempt to clear danger - and attempt is usually the correct word.
Defensively, as in stopping attacks he's not bad, although he does seem to give anyone hugging the touchline acres of room but that seems to be the "modern way". but getting rid of the ball his preferred methods appear to be either a) beat the player and then turn back into trouble or b) wait until he's closed down such that putting it out for a throw is his best hope.
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Post by pedant on Apr 19, 2019 17:24:35 GMT
I do not get to many games each season for geographical reasons but having watched the Stones for over 45 years I can confidently say that is the worst team performance I have ever seen. Sorry, I use the word 'team' too lightly as team implies an awareness of a structure of play and anticipation of where your colleagues may be going. Today I watched a collection of 11 individuals without a footballing brain between them. No anticipation, no positioning, no off-the-ball movement to create space or opportunities. Frankly no 'team' cohesion. I am also concerned at the naivity. A couple of times at free kicks Braintree nearly broke through because we were too busy looking mournfully at the ref or scratching our arses. Then their second goal came when a free kick taken by Richards almost back to the half way line had everyone forward and when as per usual the attack broke down their keeper immediately booted it upfield where only Richards was and none of our defenders had the wherewithall to anticipate needing to cover the eventiality. Needless to say their 2 runners broke through and the rest is history. Braintree were poor also but being unable to beat a team we will be competing against in the NLS next season does not bode well. As for individuals: Lewington - at least he had a pair of lungs and kept shouting orders, albeit to little effect. Phillips - a player I have liked before but very anonymous today Mr. Freeze - Best individual performance and consistant throughout Davies - soft penalty giveaway and little else thereafter (fortunately some may say) Wishart - has no postional sense whatsoever. Frequently caught out of position at left back alowing them space to attack Powell - anonymous, good substitution Taylor - couple of good touches but nothing else Muldoon - worse than being a man down - unless you need 2-point conversions over the top of the Genco stand Turgott - some good running onto through balls, creating problems but no end result. Does not appear motivated. Richards - hufed and puffed but to no good. When Powell went off his corner taking was truly atrocious - even I can do better (doesn't require me to run) - if you have no plan for dead ball situations then at least stick it onto the edge of the 6 yard box at a hight for someone like Swaine Embury - maybe it was my view of the pitch but I didn't see him do anything until he was subbed Romaine - more huffing and puffing, did unsettle them a bit but no end result Amaluzor - immediately after coming on his first touch was booed by the 67 Braintree fans and he then fluffed completely. Thereafer made some good runs but is annnoying in the fact that as son as he lays off the ball he stops to congratulate himself and immediately ends up 10m behind the game line of no use to anyone for instance such as a return ball. I noticed Oliver and Bill in the Spitfire lounge before the game engaging with people. I bet they didn't go there after the game. On a day when G&N are considering going down 2 divisions and so the 4th from bottom place may be worth playing for this is doubly disappointimg. Certainly It makes one question carrying out 20,000km round trips. Anyway, Sutton on Monday, albeit via the massive rip off that is SE Rail. Unless anyone has a better idea....... Not necessarily true. Rumour that they're destined for National League North. Knowing the FA any option is possible.
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Post by 61666 on Apr 19, 2019 17:26:50 GMT
For me, the biggest worry is that Braintree made an effort and we couldn't be bothered. Had we played our youth team, feel sure they would have been motivated. Our fringe players seemed unable to compete with a team we are playing again next season, while our so called NL players just didn't turn up. That is a real endictment of club management, I'm afraid. Sorry, but they are paid to pick the team and motivate them to play well. They didn't or couldn't and the sooner we are shot of pretty much everyone who is not on a contract the better. Either all these journeymen have utterly poisoned the changing room with their attitudes, or management need to take a long hard look at themselves. Maybe both. Braintree came here and had a go. Well done them. All our team did was confirm what we've known all season. At best, they aren't very good, at worst, they really aren't interested and that is absolutely shameful to those who pay their wages. Namely us, the fans.
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Post by hongkongstone on Apr 19, 2019 17:28:43 GMT
I do not get to many games each season for geographical reasons but having watched the Stones for over 45 years I can confidently say that is the worst team performance I have ever seen. Sorry, I use the word 'team' too lightly as team implies an awareness of a structure of play and anticipation of where your colleagues may be going. Today I watched a collection of 11 individuals without a footballing brain between them. No anticipation, no positioning, no off-the-ball movement to create space or opportunities. Frankly no 'team' cohesion. I am also concerned at the naivity. A couple of times at free kicks Braintree nearly broke through because we were too busy looking mournfully at the ref or scratching our arses. Then their second goal came when a free kick taken by Richards almost back to the half way line had everyone forward and when as per usual the attack broke down their keeper immediately booted it upfield where only Richards was and none of our defenders had the wherewithall to anticipate needing to cover the eventiality. Needless to say their 2 runners broke through and the rest is history. Braintree were poor also but being unable to beat a team we will be competing against in the NLS next season does not bode well. As for individuals: Lewington - at least he had a pair of lungs and kept shouting orders, albeit to little effect. Phillips - a player I have liked before but very anonymous today Mr. Freeze - Best individual performance and consistant throughout Davies - soft penalty giveaway and little else thereafter (fortunately some may say) Wishart - has no postional sense whatsoever. Frequently caught out of position at left back alowing them space to attack Powell - anonymous, good substitution Taylor - couple of good touches but nothing else Muldoon - worse than being a man down - unless you need 2-point conversions over the top of the Genco stand Turgott - some good running onto through balls, creating problems but no end result. Does not appear motivated. Richards - hufed and puffed but to no good. When Powell went off his corner taking was truly atrocious - even I can do better (doesn't require me to run) - if you have no plan for dead ball situations then at least stick it onto the edge of the 6 yard box at a hight for someone like Swaine Embury - maybe it was my view of the pitch but I didn't see him do anything until he was subbed Romaine - more huffing and puffing, did unsettle them a bit but no end result Amaluzor - immediately after coming on his first touch was booed by the 67 Braintree fans and he then fluffed completely. Thereafer made some good runs but is annnoying in the fact that as son as he lays off the ball he stops to congratulate himself and immediately ends up 10m behind the game line of no use to anyone for instance such as a return ball. I noticed Oliver and Bill in the Spitfire lounge before the game engaging with people. I bet they didn't go there after the game. On a day when G&N are considering going down 2 divisions and so the 4th from bottom place may be worth playing for this is doubly disappointimg. Certainly It makes one question carrying out 20,000km round trips. Anyway, Sutton on Monday, albeit via the massive rip off that is SE Rail. Unless anyone has a better idea....... Not necessarily true. Rumour that they're destined for National League North. Knowing the FA any option is possible. Regardless, we will at least be up against H&W, Aldershot and possibly Woking next season. What are the chances on our immediate return if today's display is anything to go by?
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Post by hammerstone on Apr 19, 2019 17:30:45 GMT
No one was worth having play next season. It was basically like being in school as year 6 knowing your leaving to another bigger school so there’s no point in trying anyway.
Hakan is not what we need and I’ve never warmed to him, he is tactically inept and uninspiring. He will not have any songs sung about him unless derogatory.
Casey shot into the bar after the game, for about 10 seconds. Perhaps he over estimated things and had to be somewhere else, would not be the first time he got numbers wrong.
Ash was on the pitch around 5.45, probably discussing why 3G pitches should be in league 2 or perhaps discussing climate change.
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Post by wolvesstone on Apr 19, 2019 17:57:42 GMT
Fair enough 61666, you summing up was probably quite generous to the team. Just a bit harsh on Swaine who did little wrong today and looked decent. There again he's only motivated by playing for a National League slot somewhere else next season. Wishart had a fair match but no better and probably worth signing again Rob Swaine has been our best player for some time now. The management have brought the playing side of the club down to a new level. No tactics, just talk. They should go. Just before the whistle for the start of the game our team were wandering around shaking hands and waving to friends in the crowd. Braintree were warming up and doing drills. If we are to have a reasonable season 2019/20 we should let the "full time professionals" go (Powell, Turgott, Amaluza, Lewington, Romain, Wishart, Cass, Ollie, Phillips, Taylor, etc.), and get rid of this charade running the playing side of the club immediately. It doesn't work. HH looks lost, poor man. Show him the door. John Still seems like a nice old chap. Maybe he could edit the programme. We need a young manager with modern ideas, a young squad and a new start.
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